NorthShoreWx Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 I just wish we hadn't wasted the first half of December with all those threats that just barely missed us....we could have built an absolutely massive and much more resilient snowpack if we'd gotten some good snows before the Boxing Day Blizzard. Considering the low sun angle and temperatures averaging 4.5F below normal at KNYC, December could have established a very good base for the snowpack that burgeoned in January; in any case, it was still a fun month with the arctic front around December 14th and then the big blizzard followed by very cold weather. Most of the smaller lakes and ponds in Westchester were frozen before Christmas, and remain iced to this day, something I've never seen here before. The icy base of our current snowpack is from December. And there are icy layers on top of that icy base. I took a jog at lunch time and on a lark headed into the woods for a hundred yards or so on a local hiking trail. The trail was filled with frozen postholes, but I was able to walk next to it without breaking the surface. I only postholed once after I had turned around. I wasn't meaning to hike, just wanted to check out the conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 The icy base of our current snowpack is from December. And there are icy layers on top of that icy base. I took a jog at lunch time and on a lark headed into the woods for a hundred yards or so on a local hiking trail. The trail was filled with frozen postholes, but I was able to walk next to it without breaking the surface. I only postholed once after I had turned around. I wasn't meaning to hike, just wanted to check out the conditions. Yes, some of our snow is actually from the Boxing Day Blizzard...just amazing! I had about 1" of snow cover left before the Norlun in early January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 Unfortunately with sunny skies and temps in the 40s and maybe even 50s next week, I expect the snowpack (not the snowpiles) in CPK and at my house (7-10" or so now) to be gone by about Thursday, which will put us a few days short of the 47-48 record. Still a helluva winter and I'm still hoping for more in late February/March, as I'd hate to end up with "just" 59", when I had that by early February. You and me both. But unfortunately, this is New York and we've got climo working against us. What we've got (your 59 and CPK's 57.7) may be what we end up with because of our dismal statistics, which the pattern since our last major snowfall on Jan. 26/27, which included several additional missed opportunities (rain, freezing rain and suppression), and the projected pattern for at least the next 10 days, reminds us of, namely, that our area has not been and will never be (unless there is another little or major ice age), a reliable location for receiving decent snowfalls with any regularity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski MRG Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 Hope you guys hold the snow and break some records. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 Hope you guys hold the snow and break some records. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersWx92 Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 what's the record and year? I just heard it from my climo professor; I believe he said the record was 61 days. I don't remember what the year was (MAYBE 47-48?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 You and me both. But unfortunately, this is New York and we've got climo working against us. What we've got (your 59 and CPK's 57.7) may be what we end up with because of our dismal statistics, which the pattern since our last major snowfall on Jan. 26/27, which included several additional missed opportunities (rain, freezing rain and suppression), and the projected pattern for at least the next 10 days, reminds us of, namely, that our area has not been and will never be (unless there is another little or major ice age), a reliable location for receiving decent snowfalls with any regularity. I think some more snow in the area is likely before the warm weather sets in....climo isn't really working against you quite as much as it appears...the mean snowfall for February and March combined is near 15 inches with more in the countryside... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 I think some more snow in the area is likely before the warm weather sets in....climo isn't really working against you quite as much as it appears...the mean snowfall for February and March combined is near 15 inches with more in the countryside... Yeah, not really sure what the point of his post was. Statistics have meant garbage over the past couple winters, and if we can get another blocking episode during March, I wouldn't be surprised to see a 6-12" storm or maybe greater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulen Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 i'd piss on a sparkplug to break the record but if not all's good in the world who would've of thought this Jan. would've panned out this way no one had an inkling see ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 I think some more snow in the area is likely before the warm weather sets in....climo isn't really working against you quite as much as it appears...the mean snowfall for February and March combined is near 15 inches with more in the countryside... I hope you're right, but as per the computer models, it looks like warmer weather, at least on a temporary basis, and to the extent of being almost spring like, will be setting up next week. In addition, while you're correct about the monthly averages for February and March, CPK at 57.7" is almost 30" over it's seasonal average of about 28," and on this basis, I think raises the odds that these months could easily wind up falling well below their averages just to keep the overall seasonal total from straying too far from the average that was established over a period of about 142 seasons. While this may not be the most accurate method for estimating what our final totals would be, note that of the 142 seasons listed below, only the 10 of them that have been highlighted, have had more than 10 inches of snow per month in more than 2 of the months of their seasons. In this regard, we've already used up 2 months of our current season with more than 10 inches in each of the months of December and January, and we've almost reached the middle of February with only 1.7." Accordingly, it just seems much more probable than not, that we'll have little chance at this point of breaking the record of 75.6 set in 1995/96, although we may still have a shot at exceeding the 1947/48 total of 63.2 (we'll just need a measly 5.6" to do it, although at this point, that's even beginning to seem like a tough hurdle). Monthly & Seasonal Snowfall at Central Park SEASON JUL AUG SEP OCT NOV DEC JAN FEB MAR APR MAY JUN TOTAL 1868-69 - - - - - --- 15.1 9.6 0.8 0 0 0 ---- 1869-70 0 0 0 0 0 5.3 1.1 9.3 9.6 2.5 0 0 27.8 1870-71 0 0 0 0 0 3.0 15.9 12.1 0.1 2.0 0 0 33.1 1871-72 0 0 0 0 0.3 3.9 1.8 3.0 5.1 T 0 0 14.1 1872-73 0 0 0 0 3.5 27.0 10.6 18.8 0.4 0 0 0 60.3 1873-74 0 0 0 0 2.0 9.3 6.6 19.0 T 0 0 0 36.9 1874-75 0 0 0 0 0 10.0 14.5 4.5 15.3 13.5 0 0 57.8 1875-76 0 0 0 0 0 0.5 1.5 12.5 3.8 0 0 0 18.3 1876-77 0 0 0 0.5 0.1 12.4 20.5 0.4 6.5 0 0 0 40.4 1877-78 0 0 0 0 0 0 6.1 2.0 0 0 0 0 8.1 1878-79 0 0 0 0 0.1 5.5 17.3 11.3 1.5 0 0 0 35.7 1879-80 0 0 0 0 2.5 5.4 2.5 4.0 8.3 0 0 0 22.7 1880-81 0 0 0 0 1.4 11.5 11.5 8.8 2.3 0 0 0 35.5 1881-82 0 0 0 0 T 1.3 17.5 9.3 2.8 0.5 0 0 31.4 1882-83 0 0 0 0 14.0 T 9.4 10.1 10.0 0.5 0 0 44.0 1883-84 0 0 0 0 0 22.5 10.3 8.0 2.3 0 0 0 43.1 1884-85 0 0 0 0 0.4 10.6 4.6 14.5 4.1 T 0 0 34.2 1885-86 0 0 0 0 0 T 13.5 5.3 1.0 1.0 0 0 20.8 1886-87 0 0 0 0 T 10.3 6.6 9.0 2.0 5.0 0 0 32.9 1887-88 0 0 0 0 0.3 9.0 11.0 3.0 22.3 0 0 0 45.6 1888-89 0 0 0 0 1.5 T 4.0 7.0 4.0 0 0 0 16.5 1889-90 0 0 0 0 0 6.0 0 1.0 17.0 0.3 0 0 24.3 1890-91 0 0 0 0 0 11.4 10.0 5.3 2.1 T 0 0 28.8 1891-92 0 0 0 0 0 T 12.3 0.1 12.0 1.0 0 0 25.4 1892-93 0 0 0 0 6.3 3.0 16.0 17.8 6.1 0.5 0 0 49.7 1893-94 0 0 0 0 0 5.3 9.3 20.5 0 1.0 0 0 36.1 1894-95 0 0 0 0 0.5 4.0 9.5 9.0 4.0 T 0 0 27.0 1895-96 0 0 0 0 0 0.3 3.0 9.5 30.5 3.0 0 0 46.3 1896-97 0 0 0 0 5.0 13.0 11.3 11.0 3.3 0 0 0 43.6 1897-98 0 0 0 0 2.3 4.0 9.0 1.3 2.0 2.5 0 0 21.1 1898-99 0 0 0 0 19.0 1.5 5.3 25.3 4.8 0 0 0 55.9 1899-00 0 0 0 0 T 0.1 1.0 6.5 5.8 0 0 0 13.4 1900-01 0 0 0 0 0 0.1 2.0 7.0 T 0 0 0 9.1 1901-02 0 0 0 0 0.1 1.5 6.1 15.8 6.5 0 0 0 30.0 1902-03 0 0 0 0 0 14.4 4.5 9.8 0 0 0 0 28.7 1903-04 0 0 0 0 0 6.3 15.5 5.0 5.4 T 0 0 32.2 1904-05 0 0 0 0 0.5 21.6 18.4 5.8 1.8 0 0 0 48.1 1905-06 0 0 0 0 0 1.0 1.5 6.0 11.5 0 0 0 20.0 1906-07 0 0 0 0 1.0 0.3 11.0 21.8 13.3 5.8 0 0 53.2 1907-08 0 0 0 0 T 5.3 10.0 14.6 3.5 0 0 0 33.4 1908-09 0 0 0 0 1.0 2.9 11.3 0.8 4.3 T 0 0 20.3 1909-10 0 0 0 0 0.8 9.0 11.1 5.0 1.3 0 0 0 27.2 1910-11 0 0 0 0 T 6.6 1.3 13.3 3.5 0.5 0 0 25.2 1911-12 0 0 0 0 1.0 8.5 13.0 2.5 4.5 T 0 0 29.5 1912-13 0 0 0 0 0.8 11.4 0.3 2.6 0.2 T 0 0 15.3 1913-14 0 0 0 0 T 0.3 1.3 17.4 21.5 T 0 0 40.5 1914-15 0 0 0 0 0 2.6 3.8 4.5 7.7 10.2 0 0 28.8 1915-16 0 0 0 0 T 8.1 0.7 13.1 25.5 3.3 0 0 50.7 1916-17 0 0 0 0 T 14.5 5.8 12.2 11.7 6.5 0 0 50.7 1917-18 0 0 0 0 0.3 14.1 13.2 3.7 0.6 2.6 0 0 34.5 1918-19 0 0 0 0 0 0.3 0.3 0.5 2.7 T 0 0 3.8 1919-20 0 0 0 0 T 8.8 8.2 25.3 5.3 T 0 0 47.6 1920-21 0 0 0 0 T 1.7 3.5 13.3 T 0.1 0 0 18.6 1921-22 0 0 0 0 T 7.3 9.4 7.2 3.9 0 0 0 27.8 1922-23 0 0 0 0 1.0 8.0 24.5 18.8 8.1 T 0 0 60.4 1923-24 0 0 0 0 0 1.5 2.5 11.9 3.1 8.5 0 0 27.5 1924-25 0 0 0 0 T 0.9 27.4 1.3 T T 0 0 29.6 1925-26 0 0 0 0.8 0.1 0.9 3.1 26.3 1.2 T 0 0 32.4 1926-27 0 0 0 T T 11.7 5.7 4.6 0.2 0.1 0 0 22.3 1927-28 0 0 0 0 T 2.1 2.7 4.0 5.7 T 0 0 14.5 1928-29 0 0 0 T T 2.0 2.3 9.3 0.2 T 0 0 13.8 1929-30 0 0 0 T T 6.3 3.5 3.8 T T 0 0 13.6 1930-31 0 0 0 0 T 5.7 0.5 3.6 1.8 T 0 0 11.6 1931-32 0 0 0 0 2.0 0.1 0.8 1.8 0.6 T 0 0 5.3 1932-33 0 0 0 0 0 9.4 T 12.8 4.8 T 0 0 27.0 1933-34 0 0 0 0 0.5 14.9 0.1 27.9 8.6 0 0 0 52.0 1934-35 0 0 0 T T 1.0 23.6 7.2 2.0 T 0 0 33.8 1935-36 0 0 0 0 2.7 6.6 12.1 10.3 1.5 T 0 0 33.2 1936-37 0 0 0 T 3.2 T 6.5 3.4 2.5 T 0 0 15.6 1937-38 0 0 0 T 0.8 0.7 6.5 T 0.7 6.4 0 0 15.1 1938-39 0 0 0 0 12.8 1.7 10.3 5.5 7.0 T 0 0 37.3 1939-40 0 0 0 0 T 3.1 3.5 12.0 5.3 1.8 0 0 25.7 1940-41 0 0 0 T 2.2 3.0 9.2 5.4 19.2 0 0 0 39.0 1941-42 0 0 0 0 0 0.3 6.4 1.9 0.5 2.2 0 0 11.3 1942-43 0 0 0 0 T 8.5 9.5 4.4 7.1 T 0 0 29.5 1943-44 0 0 0 0 T T 4.8 7.7 4.8 6.5 0 0 23.8 1944-45 0 0 0 T T 6.7 12.3 8.1 T 0 0 0 27.1 1945-46 0 0 0 0 3.7 15.6 4.2 7.9 T T T 0 31.4 1946-47 0 0 0 0 0 1.3 5.5 17.7 6.1 T 0 0 30.6 1947-48 0 0 0 0 T 29.6 15.3 13.6 4.7 0 0 0 63.2 1948-49 0 0 0 0 T 25.3 6.4 10.7 4.2 0 0 0 46.6 1949-50 0 0 0 0 0.5 1.1 0.4 8.5 1.4 1.9 0 0 13.8 1950-51 0 0 0 0 T 3.8 3.2 1.9 2.7 0 0 0 11.6 1951-52 0 0 0 0 T 3.3 6.2 2.8 7.4 0 0 0 19.7 1952-53 0 0 0 0.5 1.7 7.5 4.1 0.4 0.9 T 0 0 15.1 1953-54 0 0 0 0 2.2 T 12.7 0.5 0.1 0.3 0 0 15.8 1954-55 0 0 0 0 T 0.1 2.6 5.2 3.6 0 0 0 11.5 1955-56 0 0 0 0 1.0 3.3 1.2 2.7 21.1 4.2 0 0 33.5 1956-57 0 0 0 0 T 0.9 8.9 7.0 2.6 2.5 0 0 21.9 1957-58 0 0 0 0 T 8.7 9.2 10.7 15.9 0.2 0 0 44.7 1958-59 0 0 0 0 T 3.8 1.5 0.4 6.7 0.6 0 0 13.0 1959-60 0 0 0 0 0.5 15.8 2.5 1.9 18.5 0 0 0 39.2 1960-61 0 0 0 T 0 18.6 16.7 18.2 1.2 T 0 0 54.7 1961-62 0 0 0 0 T 7.7 0.6 9.6 0.2 T 0 0 18.1 1962-63 0 0 0 T T 4.5 5.3 3.7 2.8 T 0 0 16.3 1963-64 0 0 0 0 T 11.3 13.3 14.1 6.0 T 0 0 44.7 1964-65 0 0 0 0 0 3.1 14.8 2.5 2.8 1.2 0 0 24.4 1965-66 0 0 0 T 0 T 11.6 9.8 T 0 0 0 21.4 1966-67 0 0 0 0 0 9.1 1.4 23.6 17.4 T 0 0 51.5 1967-68 0 0 0 0 3.2 5.5 3.6 1.1 6.1 0 0 0 19.5 1968-69 0 0 0 0 T 7.0 1.0 16.6 5.6 0 0 0 30.2 1969-70 0 0 0 0 T 6.8 8.4 6.4 4.0 T 0 0 25.6 1970-71 0 0 0 0 0 2.4 11.4 T 1.3 0.4 0 0 15.5 1971-72 0 0 0 0 T T 2.8 17.8 2.3 T 0 0 22.9 1972-73 0 0 0 T T T 1.8 0.8 0.2 T 0 0 2.8 1973-74 0 0 0 0 0 2.8 7.8 9.4 3.2 0.3 0 0 23.5 1974-75 0 0 0 0 0.1 0.1 2.0 10.6 0.3 T 0 0 13.1 1975-76 0 0 0 0 T 2.3 5.6 5.0 4.4 T 0 0 17.3 1976-77 0 0 0 0 T 5.1 13.0 5.8 0.6 T T 0 24.5 1977-78 0 0 0 0 0.2 0.4 20.3 23.0 6.8 T 0 0 50.7 1978-79 0 0 0 0 2.2 0.5 6.6 20.1 T T 0 0 29.4 1979-80 0 0 0 T 0 3.5 2.0 2.7 4.6 T 0 0 12.8 1980-81 0 0 0 0 T 2.8 8.0 T 8.6 0 0 0 19.4 1981-82 0 0 0 0 0 2.1 11.8 0.4 0.7 9.6 0 0 24.6 1982-83 0 0 0 0 0 3.0 1.9 21.5 T 0.8 0 0 27.2 1983-84 0 0 0 0 T 1.6 11.7 0.2 11.9 0 0 0 25.4 1984-85 0 0 0 0 T 5.5 8.4 10.0 0.2 T 0 0 24.1 1985-86 0 0 0 0 T 0.9 2.2 9.9 T T 0 0 13.0 1986-87 0 0 0 0 T 0.6 13.6 7.0 1.9 0 0 0 23.1 1987-88 0 0 0 0 1.1 2.6 13.9 1.5 T 0 0 0 19.1 1988-89 0 0 0 0 0 0.3 5.0 0.3 2.5 0 0 0 8.1 1989-90 0 0 0 0 4.7 1.4 1.8 1.8 3.1 0.6 0 0 13.4 1990-91 0 0 0 0 0 7.2 8.4 9.1 0.2 0 0 0 24.9 1991-92 0 0 0 0 T 0.7 1.5 1.0 9.4 T 0 0 12.6 1992-93 0 0 0 0 0 0.4 1.5 10.7 11.9 0 0 0 24.5 1993-94 0 0 0 0 T 6.9 12.0 26.4 8.1 0 0 0 53.4 1994-95 0 0 0 0 T T 0.2 11.6 T T 0 0 11.8 1995-96 0 0 0 0 2.9 11.5 26.1 21.2 13.2 0.7 0 0 75.6 1996-97 0 0 0 0 0.1 T 4.4 3.8 1.7 T 0 0 10.0 1997-98 0 0 0 0 T T 0.5 0.0 5.0 0 0 0 5.5 1998-99 0 0 0 0 0 2.0 4.5 1.7 4.5 0 0 0 12.7 1999-00 0 0 0 0 0 T 9.5 5.2 0.4 1.2 0 0 16.3 2000-01 0 0 0 T 0 13.4 8.3 9.5 3.8 0 0 0 35.0 2001-02 0 0 0 0 0 T 3.5 T T T 0 0 3.5 2002-03 0 0 0 T T 11.0 4.7 26.1 3.5 4.0 0 0 49.3 2003-04 0 0 0 0 0 19.8 17.3 0.7 4.8 0 0 0 42.6 2004-05 0 0 0 0 T 3.0 15.3 15.8 6.9 0 0 0 41.0 2005-06 0 0 0 0 T 9.7 2.0 26.9 1.3 0.1 0 0 40.0 2006-07 0 0 0 0 0 0 2.6 3.8 6.0 T 0 0 12.4 2007-08 0 0 0 0 T 2.9 T 9.0 T 0 0 0 11.9 2008-09� 0 0 0 0 T 6.0 9.0 4.3 8.3 T 0 0 27.6 2009-10� 0 0 0 0 0 12.4 2.1 36.9 T 0 0 0 51.4 2010-11� 0 0 0 0 T 20.1 36.0 56.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 Yeah, not really sure what the point of his post was. Statistics have meant garbage over the past couple winters, and if we can get another blocking episode during March, I wouldn't be surprised to see a 6-12" storm or maybe greater. Sure, and if I hit the lottery............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozz Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 You and me both. But unfortunately, this is New York and we've got climo working against us. What we've got (your 59 and CPK's 57.7) may be what we end up with because of our dismal statistics, which the pattern since our last major snowfall on Jan. 26/27, which included several additional missed opportunities (rain, freezing rain and suppression), and the projected pattern for at least the next 10 days, reminds us of, namely, that our area has not been and will never be (unless there is another little or major ice age), a reliable location for receiving decent snowfalls with any regularity. I think you still have until the middle of March to count on getting snow. NYC isn't DC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ict1523 Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 I was in a park today and in some areas there is still about a foot of snow. It is so hard that you can walk on top of it and not only will you not sink in, but you won't even leave a footprint. Pretty amazing and gonna take a lot more to kill the rest of this snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 I think you still have until the middle of March to count on getting snow. NYC isn't DC About once every three years we get accumulating snow in April. If that equals the odds of the lottery, I should play Powerball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 Yeah, not really sure what the point of his post was. Statistics have meant garbage over the past couple winters, and if we can get another blocking episode during March, I wouldn't be surprised to see a 6-12" storm or maybe greater. About once every three years we get accumulating snow in April. If that equals the odds of the lottery, I should play Powerball Resulting in a long term average of 0.5 inches for that month. I never said or intimated that we would never get any more accumulating snows this winter. If you carefully read my posts, the only point that I was trying to make was that based upon the circumstances set forth therein, I believed that the likelihood of breaking any more significant snowfall records this winter was small, other than possibly surpassing 1947/48's seasonal amount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 Back home in Monmouth County today and impressed how much is still left. Measured a solid 10" average, with some spots still up to 13-14" or so in the drifts. Snow's hard as rock, can walk on top without falling through as many have already noted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 Tomorrow will be day 49 with snow of 1"+ on the ground in my area. Exceptional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelocita Weather Posted February 14, 2011 Author Share Posted February 14, 2011 Tomorrow will be day 49 with snow of 1"+ on the ground in my area. Exceptional. Today is day #50/51 (depending on how you count it) . Looks like we will get to #52 or so and then it will be gone (save piles). But hopefully this winter will end like 93/94 did, brief erosion/wipeout of snowpack and 4-5 days in the 50's/60's then back to snow and cold. Too early to tell though... Pretty amazing how close this year and 93/94 have been. That year in late Feb we had a VERY SIMILAR torch (4-5 days of 50/60) then back to winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Today is day #50/51 (depending on how you count it) . Looks like we will get to #52 or so and then it will be gone (save piles). But hopefully this winter will end like 93/94 did, brief erosion/wipeout of snowpack and 4-5 days in the 50's/60's then back to snow and cold. Too early to tell though... Pretty amazing how close this year and 93/94 have been. That year in late Feb we had a VERY SIMILAR torch (4-5 days of 50/60) then back to winter. Yeah today's #51. Sill had 8" as of this morning. NYC/Central Park held at 8" for the 3rd consecutive day yesterday. This afternoon's definitely a decent hit, then we kill the rest thurs probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 I remember some talk a few days back about no snow cover SW nassau vs the rest of the island...how true. Where i live in norrth central nassau we had, as of yesterday, about 7-8 inches in almost all areas, 10+ in the shade...i drove to oceanside where there was no snow anywhere except in shady areas...huge difference in about 12 miles. Today is beautiful. I want spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 I remember some talk a few days back about no snow cover SW nassau vs the rest of the island...how true. Where i live in norrth central nassau we had, as of yesterday, about 7-8 inches in almost all areas, 10+ in the shade...i drove to oceanside where there was no snow anywhere except in shady areas...huge difference in about 12 miles. Today is beautiful. I want spring. Yup, but in weather like this I actually dont mind no snow cover. It makes it much more enjoyable. We just have too much urbanization here to sustain snow cover when its so warm outside. I still have 1-2 inches in grassy areas even where there's full sun but all the sidewalks (except for the corners) and roads are clear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RU848789 Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 In our area (Edison/Metuchen), the only bare spots are south facing hills on the highway, where they probably get a lot of salt splash, and of course, most paved surfaces, except where the snow was piled up from plows/shoveling. My front and back yards, which are about 1/4 of an acre, total, have a solid 5-10" everywhere, except where the snow blew away when drifting. The front and back yards are somewhat shady, but not completely shaded. Across the street, where there's a small pond and a hill the kids sled on (and it's wide open, with limited shade), I'd estimate more like 3-6", as it gets more sun. This snowpack has so much moisture content (I'd guess at least 3" of liquid per foot of snow) that it's going to be pretty slow to melt - probably only lost an inch or so today - and it might last even until the end of the week - will be a very close call as to whether we make it to 2/21 (the magic day 58 days in a row record for Central Park - best comparison for me). I'm guessing my property will survive to 2/21 with an inch or two of cement, but wide open, not-so-shaded areas, such as the field across the street will be mostly brown - and since I imagine CPK is much like the field across the street from me, I'd guess it will make it to day 56 or 57 with 1" of snowcover, but not 58. It's going to be close... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 In our area (Edison/Metuchen), the only bare spots are south facing hills on the highway, where they probably get a lot of salt splash, and of course, most paved surfaces, except where the snow was piled up from plows/shoveling. My front and back yards, which are about 1/4 of an acre, total, have a solid 5-10" everywhere, except where the snow blew away when drifting. The front and back yards are somewhat shady, but not completely shaded. Across the street, where there's a small pond and a hill the kids sled on (and it's wide open, with limited shade), I'd estimate more like 3-6", as it gets more sun. This snowpack has so much moisture content (I'd guess at least 3" of liquid per foot of snow) that it's going to be pretty slow to melt - probably only lost an inch or so today - and it might last even until the end of the week - will be a very close call as to whether we make it to 2/21 (the magic day 58 days in a row record for Central Park - best comparison for me). I'm guessing my property will survive to 2/21 with an inch or two of cement, but wide open, not-so-shaded areas, such as the field across the street will be mostly brown - and since I imagine CPK is much like the field across the street from me, I'd guess it will make it to day 56 or 57 with 1" of snowcover, but not 58. It's going to be close... Yeah similar situation in Monmouth County. Today's blowtorch only took a couple inches off, still 4-8" on the ground on average. Tomorrow looks like a no melt day, with a refreezing of this glacier overnight tonight. Then the metling resumes a little Wednesday/Thursday but Friday's the major melt day. Assuming temps approach 65-70 degrees, snow will be gone sve for the piles. Even this high density glacier that's tough as nails won't be able to withstand a 60-70 degree day. 50 - sure, but not as warm as Friday's projected to be. Regardless, remarkable that we're rivaling 47-48, the benchmark for snow cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Looks like there is still 7" on the ground at the weather office at Upton...streak at 51 days...record for Upton is 55 days set in 1947-48. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Looks like there is still 7" on the ground at the weather office at Upton...streak at 51 days...record for Upton is 55 days set in 1947-48. I think they have a decent shot at making it William. No significant melting until Friday probably...going to be close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Monmouth County snowpack, interesting to see two seperate swaths of cover...one over NW zones and SE Middlsex, and the other right through Howell and Colts Neck, where 4-8" locally higher depth remains. With tomorrow a refreeze, likely not much melting until the torch day Friday, which would mean 55 consecutive days of cover. We'll see how long Central Park makes it. They've been steady at 8" for three days. This afternoon probably shot them down to 6" or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Monmouth County snowpack, interesting to see two seperate swaths of cover...one over NW zones and SE Middlsex, and the other right through Howell and Colts Neck, where 4-8" locally higher depth remains. With tomorrow a refreeze, likely not much melting until the torch day Friday, which would mean 55 consecutive days of cover. We'll see how long Central Park makes it. They've been steady at 8" for three days. This afternoon probably shot them down to 6" or so. CPK is also down to 7" as of this afternoon, Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 CPK is also down to 7" as of this afternoon, Tom. William -- impressive, considering the highs today. This snow melt is mimicking 47-48 very closely, with the 1" loss day by day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 William -- impressive, considering the highs today. This snow melt is mimicking 47-48 very closely, with the 1" loss day by day. If that 7'" was what falls in many lake effect situations, it might have entirely sublimated today... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jconsor Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Upton only lost 2" of snow cover on Mon - from 7" at 7AM to 5" at 7PM. I agree that they have a good shot at tying the record, especially if the SW winds stay relatively light on Thu night. Looks like there is still 7" on the ground at the weather office at Upton...streak at 51 days...record for Upton is 55 days set in 1947-48. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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