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Feb. 8-12 Model Discussion Part III


beanskip

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Well the 18z GFS actually did decent with initialization compared to the 18z RUC.

Yea... but its been consistently too strong out to 18 hours... the key thing to watch is if the initializations are getting stronger, or if we see the 5400m heights at 500mb start appearing on the initlizations... this will tell us if we have a significantly stronger system than modeled since none of the global models have this.

Looks like we have it...

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Lol. No dice this time!

I am with you frost nothing this time, winter is about over. I don't get excited over a flurry flying around. If its not deep enough for a plow then lets move on to spring. Wish-casting is all see going on with this one. If I am wrong GREAT but this one is a dud. Hopefully I am wrong but if not a winter storm then I rather see nothing.

Pilot smoking that bad boy garage fumes!!!!!

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Oh man. H5 closed off? Holy cow. I never remember seeing sub 1000mb on any long or medium range models. Maybe the Euro many days ago. If I remember correctly, it brought the 999mb LP through the northern gulf weakening to 1012 near LA and going to 1004 near Pensacola. It was the run with 1" of QPF into northern GA and Carolinas. :snowman:

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Oh man. H5 closed off? Holy cow. I never remember seeing sub 1000mb on any long or medium range models. Maybe the Euro many days ago. :snowman:

What could this mean to us or possibly mean to us in the next day or two? Stronger system? Just trying to learn guys, so take it easy on me with bashing and laughing!

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With H5 closed for the time being and a strong LP in MX, it *could* translate to a stronger surface low in the northern gulf as well as colder temperaures on the northern edge. Just amazing to see it stronger than any of the models we were looking at over the weekend.

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What could this mean to us or possibly mean to us in the next day or two? Stronger system? Just trying to learn guys, so take it easy on me with bashing and laughing!

Yep... the stronger our system is upstream, the more likely we can get higher precipitation amounts into the Carolinas and Georgia.

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With H5 closed for the time being and a strong LP in MX, it *could* translate to a stronger surface low in the northern gulf as well as colder temperaures on the northern edge. Just amazing to see it stronger than any of the models we were looking at over the weekend.

You know it is exciting but we should all be careful. What we should be watching for over the next 6-18 hrs is where it goes from here both the nam and gfs have it going from a 1004mb low to a blob of LP at 1012 in the next 12 hrs.

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Yep... the stronger our system is upstream, the more likely we can get higher precipitation amounts into the Carolinas and Georgia.

Thanks ya'll...learning here very quickly and enjoying the "excitement" of possibly a stronger storm, but will also err on the side of caution too, just in case!

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You know it is exciting but we should all be careful. What we should be watching for over the next 6-18 hrs is where it goes from here both the nam and gfs have it going from a 1004mb low to a blob of LP at 1012 in the next 12 hrs.

Agreed, I swear this happens every storm where the storm comes in a little stronger than the modeled data. The models may be off, but they're not going to be WAY off.

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