CoastalWx Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 there's a pretty sizeable gradient between Easton stoughton brockton W bridgewater and him as well. I was down there last week. Once you get se of Bridewater-GHG area, it decreases pretty quickly. They got a sh*tload still. Big time water content probably helped them out, as it helped me out. It's kind of unusual to see a gradient in that part of the state, like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpickett79 Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 48F instead of 50F it seems snow pack is alot better at preserving a cold air mass and keeping it from modifiying much then really cooling a warm one. at least that is my basic perception. but perhaps it alters storm track and perhaps a trough/ ridge's evolution a tad ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski MRG Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Remember last March? Summer started then last year. Days in the 70's and 80's..no snow or snowcover..Many people were mowing by late March. Man..that was awful last year. I remember March. I posted this already but first one was taken on 3/15/10. The second one was taken on 3/29/10, one of my ski trails. No lawn mowing required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 The only thing that worries me is that 1974 and 1975 keep showing up in the analogs down the road for this milder pattern....if we followed those years to the end of winter, it would be an epic disaster finish...almost snowless at the end of those winters. The good news is that Feb '94 and Feb '96 patterns are also showing up....those years had a torch around the 20th but then returned top a wintry pattern to have a big finish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski MRG Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 2nd pic. There's gonna be snow here well into April this year, easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski MRG Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 The only thing that worries me is that 1974 and 1975 keep showing up in the analogs down the road for this milder pattern....if we followed those years to the end of winter, it would be an epic disaster finish...almost snowless at the end of those winters. The good news is that Feb '94 and Feb '96 patterns are also showing up....those years had a torch around the 20th but then returned top a wintry pattern to have a big finish I'll be totally shocked if we don't go out in a blaze of glory. Every big Winter like this I can remember has finished strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 The only thing that worries me is that 1974 and 1975 keep showing up in the analogs down the road for this milder pattern....if we followed those years to the end of winter, it would be an epic disaster finish...almost snowless at the end of those winters. The good news is that Feb '94 and Feb '96 patterns are also showing up....those years had a torch around the 20th but then returned top a wintry pattern to have a big finish Balanced by 1956 being mentioned...lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 I'll be totally shocked if we don't go out in a blaze of glory. Every big Winter like this I can remember has finished strong. Most of them do....but I remember '02-'03 did not. That kind of went out with a wimper after PDII. It had a snow event in April but it wasn't that good and March was below average. '61-'62 was a pretty big winter for the interior and it also went out with a wimper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 It's gonna be a long 10 days -2 weeks of waiting though. We've had such an active period since DEC 26th that it's really gonna be boring ..esp once it gets into the 40;s next week. As long as it's brutally cold thru Saturday it's fine..cold and dry is good...but I am not looking forward to next week at all Eh maybe not...may be a sneak system in there somewhere. Models are not having a great year, hard to think to my eyes that they are going to have the longwave pattern figured out at day 10. I just don't buy it to be honest. We had all the teleconnects etc in the world for bigger events Tue-Thur this week just a few days ago. The warmth is nice, will melt some leg breaking ice. I'm happy if the pond freezes again for the kids and we get 3-4 more good days on it. Last year it thawed by the end of January. Some pretty insane snow depth gradients in RI and SE MA...Burrillville, RI prob has near 30" on the ground while 30 miles SE has only a few inches. Yeah and it's just as steep from Easton to where Bob is in Taunton. That map isn't great down here...I've got bald patches now, but go 1 mile NW and it's still several inches. That se mass gradient is for real. Huge difference se of Bob's area. see above.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Remember last March? Summer started then last year. Days in the 70's and 80's..no snow or snowcover..Many people were mowing by late March. Man..that was awful last year. I think "many" may be stretching it. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 When the snow does ultimatley melt, we should do some picture comparisons of the rivers running this spring to last summer. What a world of difference that will be! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski MRG Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Most of them do....but I remember '02-'03 did not. That kind of went out with a wimper after PDII. It had a snow event in April but it wasn't that good and March was below average. '61-'62 was a pretty big winter for the interior and it also went out with a wimper. The March/April couplet here for '02-'03 was 15" and '61-62 was19". Not great but at least not a total skunk job. Other March/April couplets: '93-'94 = 26" '95-'96 = 35" '55-'56 = 54" '70-'71= 56" all numbers from the Chesterfield co-op. Lots of March/April combos in the 30-40" range. I think we have a doozy of a finish. Average for March/April is 20+". Lot more snow to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski MRG Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 When the snow does ultimatley melt, we should do some picture comparisons of the rivers running this spring to last summer. What a world of difference that will be! Must we talk about such unpleasant things? Here's a shot of last years spring run off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted February 9, 2011 Author Share Posted February 9, 2011 Wind is roaring up above. House is creaking and popping due to the wind and decreasing temps. Should be single digits before midnight. That has been a little while. Gardner WxBug hit 43mph in the last hour Wheeeeee!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted February 9, 2011 Author Share Posted February 9, 2011 How's your 45 kt gusts and 13F temps..lol. It really is ripping pretty good. How's your 7K+ posts treating ya! Did you see the stories about cars in Charlestown being crushed by falling snow? You city folk are lucky to be alive in those cute neighborhoods. SN- now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisStraight Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Wind is roaring up above. House is creaking and popping due to the wind and decreasing temps.Should be single digits before midnight. That has been a little while. Gardner WxBug hit 43mph in the last hour Wheeeeee!!! My house made a weird noise too about 7:00 during a big gust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 The silence is deafening. Looks like sne is on hiatus, on this board its all about the snow lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 The silence is deafening. Looks like sne is on hiatus, on this board its all about the snow lol. Probably the most uninteresting stretch of the winter so far coming up. At least in the first half of December we had threats that were whiffing or not going our way. This upcoming period just looks dead. The only hope is that the miller B threat for next week looks better but that is a marginal threat right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 The silence is deafening. Looks like sne is on hiatus, on this board its all about the snow lol. It's so weird how the board has gone incredibly dead in the last few days...there was constant activity in January and early February, but now it seems as if all the posters have disappeared from the SNE and NYC metro thread, sort of disappointing. I'd like to see some discussion about the Miller B threat next week, the lowest temperatures experienced during this cold snap as we have some 850s near -20C, and some longer-range conversation about whether this is a torch after Tuesday or just a one-day lakes cutter before the cold -EPO/-NAO regime returns for the rest of the epic winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 16/-1 temps have been pretty steady the last couple hours, strong winds being the culprit. Its going to be very interesting seeing March unfold, many ninas featured cool and somewhat snowy late winters, this winter of course has not behaved according to "plan". I think many of the good mets will have an idea on how they feel the winter will close out over the next ten days or so....ie cold or warm or perhaps normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Wow, the Lakes are truly closed for business. What a winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 GFS has some decent snow from the clipper on Sunday. Its mostly been north on guidance with a couple runs coming south...but this one has a decent vortmax track just to our south so we'd probably see a nice band of 1-3" or 2-4" snows if that occurred. Track is still a bit north of of optimal, but good enough for some light snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 I know its not SNE...but this is a slow night.... What an insane storm going on for the TX panhandle right now....Amarillo obs: KAMA 090353Z 36026G34KT 1/16SM R04/3000V4500FT +SN BLSN BR VV003 M18/M20 A3020 RMK AO2 PK WND 36041/0317 SLP273 P0003 T11831200 :lmao: That is an Ekster plains blizzard special back when he was out in that region of the country. -1F with almost 0 vis and winds over 40 knots...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 I know its not SNE...but this is a slow night.... What an insane storm going on for the TX panhandle right now....Amarillo obs: KAMA 090353Z 36026G34KT 1/16SM R04/3000V4500FT +SN BLSN BR VV003 M18/M20 A3020 RMK AO2 PK WND 36041/0317 SLP273 P0003 T11831200 :lmao: That is an Ekster plains blizzard special back when he was out in that region of the country. -1F with almost 0 vis and winds over 40 knots...lol Wow....holy F U C K!!!!!!!!!! ASUS44 KLUB 090410 RWRTX WEST TEXAS WEATHER ROUNDUP NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE LUBBOCK TX 1000 PM CST TUE FEB 08 2011 NOTE: "FAIR" INDICATES FEW OR NO CLOUDS BELOW 12,000 FEET WITH NO SIGNIFICANT WEATHER AND/OR OBSTRUCTIONS TO VISIBILITY. TXZ004-006>008-010-012-014-016-OKZ002-090500- TEXAS PANHANDLE/OKLAHOMA PANHANDLE CITY SKY/WX TMP DP RH WIND PRES REMARKS AMARILLO HVY SNOW -1 -4 87 N30G39 30.20S VSB 1/16WCI -27 BORGER HAZE 1 -4 79 N22G29 30.30S VSB 3/4 WCI -21 CANADIAN LGT SNOW 3 -2 80 N17 30.33R VSB 3/4 WCI -17 DALHART CLOUDY 3 -5 69 N23G33 30.26R WCI -19 DUMAS LGT SNOW 1 -4 80 N22 30.26R WCI -21 GUYMON SNOW 1 -4 78 N17 30.33R VSB 1/2 WCI -19 HEREFORD LGT SNOW 3 -2 79 N28G36 30.20R VSB 3/4 WCI -21 PAMPA SNOW 0 -6 78 N28G39 30.25R VSB 1/2 WCI -26 PERRYTON CLOUDY 0 -4 81 NW17 30.31R WCI -20 $$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 That's about as bad as it gets....1/16 mile vis and heavy snow with winds ripping over 40 knots. Looks like their winds have come down a bit on their latest obs, but man, what a storm there. That band means business too over them...probably like 2-3 inches per hour. Back on the homestead, the GFS has the clipper Sunday and then the Miller B threat is just another clipper a day later that tries to dive just S of us...but heck thats two events to track on the GFS...so hopefully its seeing this at least somewhat correctly...would be better than nothing for 10 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 That's about as bad as it gets....1/16 mile vis and heavy snow with winds ripping over 40 knots. Looks like their winds have come down a bit on their latest obs, but man, what a storm there. That band means business too over them...probably like 2-3 inches per hour. Back on the homestead, the GFS has the clipper Sunday and then the Miller B threat is just another clipper a day later that tries to dive just S of us...but heck thats two events to track on the GFS...so hopefully its seeing this at least somewhat correctly...would be better than nothing for 10 days. I'd take the GFS over the Euro based on 500mb scoring the last few weeks in the regions where the critical features will set up. I think everyone had a different idea of what was coming. Mine was that it was already here...the torch that just got a lot of us in eastern/southeastern areas is over. Now we get cold, a slight chance of a fringe from storm 1, some snow from Storm 2 this weekend and then a redeveloper early next week. Let's hope the last storm really forms into a bomb and maybe can do some things with the pattern. After that a 3-5 pattern break occurs that will be more widespread and warmer than what we just had, and then it's back to winter again. NORMAL....this first phase seems like mainly minor threats..the second phase could have some big ones in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Fun night... dead.... out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 GGEM is less interesting...has some very light snow (prob under an inch) with the first "clipper" (if you can even call it that on that model) then takes the 2nd wave too far north to be of any interest here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 GGEM is less interesting...has some very light snow (prob under an inch) with the first "clipper" (if you can even call it that on that model) then takes the 2nd wave too far north to be of any interest here That's the one model hpc doesn't have verification data on graphics. That said I'd probabl stick with the gfs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 That's the one model hpc doesn't have verification data on graphics. That said I'd probabl stick with the gfs Its a worse model than the GFS so I wouldn't see any particular reason to favor it at 5 days out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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