The Waterboy Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natecast Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 Amazing pics, Waterboy. Thank you for sharing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoMo Posted February 10, 2011 Author Share Posted February 10, 2011 Is anyone hearing about another pileup on I-44 near Miami, OK? My stepdad called and said it was very foggy there. Then all of a sudden the cars came to a standstill in front of him. A semi in front of him jackknifed trying to get stopped. The Oklahoma DOT website is useless and none of the Tulsa TV stations have nothing. Thanks! Not seeing anything on local stations or google. Also, nice pics Waterboy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okie333 Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 Bartlesville, OK was 35 degrees colder than Fairbanks, AK this morning! and 58 degrees colder than Anchorage! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundersnow12 Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 Pretty amazing picture of a baggage handler at XNA airport. [attachment=17829:Snow 119.JPG] A good looking baggage handler? haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valerie Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 Goodness those pics are amazing!!! with my one story house that snow would cover part of my windows. cant believe we were -11 geez. my heater is working overtime as is my fireplace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wx 24/7 Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 Will Rogers Turnpike is now closed again in far NE OK near Miami. Via KOTV: Part of the Will Rogers Turnpike, north of Miami, has been closed due to multiple accidents, The Oklahoma Highway Patrol announced. Accidents range from mile marker 313 to 266 on westbound Interstate 44, and traffic has been diverted onto U.S. Highway 71 in Missouri. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouamber Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 Well, I don't know about you guys, but I'm ready for another snow storm!!! Pretty much because I really don't care for the flooding to begin or my shoes to get soaked walking to the car! It's nice to have snow cover it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brettjrob Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 Insane pictures, Waterboy. That's more snow than I saw in my best nor'easter living on the east coast for almost a decade. BTW, the Mesonet station at Nowata hit -31 F earlier, so that should be the new OK state record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoMo Posted February 10, 2011 Author Share Posted February 10, 2011 Well, I don't know about you guys, but I'm ready for another snow storm!!! Pretty much because I really don't care for the flooding to begin or my shoes to get soaked walking to the car! It's nice to have snow cover it up. You may be waiting awhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natecast Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 Insane pictures, Waterboy. That's more snow than I saw in my best nor'easter living on the east coast for almost a decade. BTW, the Mesonet station at Nowata hit -31 F earlier, so that should be the new OK state record. I wonder if they are trying to verify some of the readings. I heard some of the Mesonet stations went offline last night when the temperatures got so absurdly low. I guess some of the programmed algorithms thought the stations were reporting bogus numbers, when in actuality they weren't! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoMo Posted February 10, 2011 Author Share Posted February 10, 2011 Will Rogers Turnpike is now closed again in far NE OK near Miami. Via KOTV: 6 semi trucks involved, near Afton, OK. 1 injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gil888 Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 For posterity: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valerie Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 TSA got to -11 but that appears as we were -22! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wierdo Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 TSA got to -11 but that appears as we were -22! That's the Bixby mesonet station. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoMo Posted February 10, 2011 Author Share Posted February 10, 2011 THE SPAVINAW DAM NWS CO-OP SITE MEASURED 27 INCHES OF SNOWFALL WEDNESDAY FEBRUARY 9TH 2011 FOR A 24 HOUR PERIOD. PENDING VERIFICATION BY NOAA`S NATIONAL CLIMATIC DATA CENTER...THAT SNOWFALL TOTAL BREAKS THE PREVIOUS 24 HOUR OKLAHOMA STATE RECORD SNOWFALL OF 26 INCHES SET DURING THE MARCH 2009 BLIZZARD AT BOTH FREEDOM AND WOODWARD. RECORD LOW TEMPERATURES READINGS THIS MORNING FROM THE MESONET AND OTHER SURFACE OBSERVATION SITES IN EASTERN OKLAHOMA AND NORTHWEST ARKANSAS INCLUDE: NOWATA OK -31 PRYOR OK -28 BARTLESVILLE OK -28 BLACKWELL OK -27 FAYETTEVILLE AR -18 TULSA OK -12 MCALESTER OK -4 Arkansas: THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE COOPERATIVE OBSERVER SITE NEAR HUNTSVILLE ARKANSAS MEASURED 24 INCHES OF SNOWFALL ON 9 FEBRUARY 2011. PENDING VERIFICATION WITH THE NATIONAL CLIMATIC DATA CENTER...THIS SNOWFALL WILL BREAK THE PREVIOUS GREATEST DAILY SNOWFALL RECORD OF 18 INCHES SET ON 19 FEBRUARY 1921 IN BEE BRANCH ARKANSAS. THE GREATEST 24 HOUR SNOWFALL RECORD STILL STANDS AT 25 INCHES SET ON 22 JANUARY 1918 IN CORNING ARKANSAS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valerie Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 That's the Bixby mesonet station. ok so that low was at the mesonet only? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoMo Posted February 11, 2011 Author Share Posted February 11, 2011 I think Nowata's temp raised at least 50 degrees today from their overnight low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brettjrob Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 I think Nowata's temp raised at least 50 degrees today from their overnight low. Yep. Looks like the winner in that race was Marshall (N of OKC), with 31/-25 for a 56-degree spread. Those types of diurnal swings are pretty common in the Panhandle, but probably close to a record for NE OK (strong frontal passages notwithstanding). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozarkwx Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 Great write-up on the once in a lifetime snowfall in NW AR on the 40/29 blog. Many questions raised: 1. Snow ratio in the band was not that high, under 15:1 2. Why did the band not move when the system around it did? 3. WTH re:the models? (2 big busts in a week for NW AR) And yes the fringe element, as expected, is blaming this event on a military experiment, a plot by large companies, etc. And the historic cold that followed yesterday made this a winter event off the charts for the 412 corridor. And equally amazing is that other parts of the area got a monster a week before. The melt-off will be interesting. We are taking bets on the disappearance of the giant snow pile in the shopping center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoMo Posted February 11, 2011 Author Share Posted February 11, 2011 Great write-up on the once in a lifetime snowfall in NW AR on the 40/29 blog. Many questions raised: 1. Snow ratio in the band was not that high, under 15:1 2. Why did the band not move when the system around it did? 3. WTH re:the models? (2 big busts in a week for NW AR) And yes the fringe element, as expected, is blaming this event on a military experiment, a plot by large companies, etc. And the historic cold that followed yesterday made this a winter event off the charts for the 412 corridor. And equally amazing is that other parts of the area got a monster a week before. The melt-off will be interesting. We are taking bets on the disappearance of the giant snow pile in the shopping center. 1. That was interesting about the snow ratios but not really surprising. Lots of forcing was in that band allowing good precip rates. 2. You've never had training thunderstorms? Similar situation, there was an elevated front that didn't move, moisture went up and over that front and produced snow in the same area. 3. It's always hard for the models to pinpoint mesoscale bands. The NAM was indicating there would be heavy snow in that area for days before the event occurred. It may have been a bit too far south but it was still showing it. The HRRR/RUC were indicating it as well but for the majority of the event, it was too far N with the band even as it was developing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wx 24/7 Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 On the exactly opposite note, SGF's forecasted low for us on Thursday night is 51! WOW! That is is nearly 70 degrees warmer than some just a week prior! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valerie Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 74 for a high on thursday......i wont know how to act!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoMo Posted February 12, 2011 Author Share Posted February 12, 2011 Up to 40 here already at 11:30 AM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csnavywx Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 1. That was interesting about the snow ratios but not really surprising. Lots of forcing was in that band allowing good precip rates. 2. You've never had training thunderstorms? Similar situation, there was an elevated front that didn't move, moisture went up and over that front and produced snow in the same area. 3. It's always hard for the models to pinpoint mesoscale bands. The NAM was indicating there would be heavy snow in that area for days before the event occurred. It may have been a bit too far south but it was still showing it. The HRRR/RUC were indicating it as well but for the majority of the event, it was too far N with the band even as it was developing. Was there lightning with the meso-band? This may have indicated the release of some CSI (conditional symmetric instability) or even upright instability. A similar situation in St. Louis happened in 1982, where only a few inches were predicted, but instead they received a narrow band of 20"+ due to CSI. With a good conveyor belt of moisture streaming in, this could have caused the convection to persist for a number of hours. The lower ratios certainly suggest that some warmer air was involved aloft than had been previously forecasted by the models. I've seen situations where narrow airstreams aloft are not well resolved, and result in some pretty large errors in the mesoscale, especially when a strong ageostrophic circulation sets up as a direct result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoMo Posted February 12, 2011 Author Share Posted February 12, 2011 Was there lightning with the meso-band? This may have indicated the release of some CSI (conditional symmetric instability) or even upright instability. A similar situation in St. Louis happened in 1982, where only a few inches were predicted, but instead they received a narrow band of 20"+ due to CSI. With a good conveyor belt of moisture streaming in, this could have caused the convection to persist for a number of hours. The lower ratios certainly suggest that some warmer air was involved aloft than had been previously forecasted by the models. I've seen situations where narrow airstreams aloft are not well resolved, and result in some pretty large errors in the mesoscale, especially when a strong ageostrophic circulation sets up as a direct result. No idea. As I was watching it develop, it developed into a pretty strong band. The band was 35-40 dbz at least and it stayed pretty much stationary throughout the entire event. It did move back and forth a bit by a few miles but it was mostly in the exact same place. You can see it on: http://mesonet.agron...nt/mcview.phtml From before Midnight on the 8th until at least 6 AM on the 9th using the Wichita radar site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoMo Posted February 13, 2011 Author Share Posted February 13, 2011 Temp has actually risen a few degrees here over the last few hours. I don't think we'll hit that overnight low of 31 since it's now 46. Looks like the GFS and Euro are wanting to bring down some cooler air in the extended range and the Euro looks like it wants to set up the 850 MB 0 degree line near our area. Could be a battlezone between airmasses nearby with waves riding up along it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozarkwx Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Was there lightning with the meso-band? I did not hear of any reports in AR, nor were there any in our area just on the fringe of the band. Temp has actually risen a few degrees here over the last few hours. I don't think we'll hit that overnight low of 31 since it's now 46. Yeah, woke up to 42 degrees this morning. That is 54 degrees warmer than at this time a few days ago, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wx 24/7 Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Only in the 4 States would a 4 wheel drive still be required to get into my driveway with the temperature at 60º. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoMo Posted February 13, 2011 Author Share Posted February 13, 2011 Only in the 4 States would a 4 wheel drive still be required to get into my driveway with the temperature at 60º. Do you have green grass under your snow down there or am I living on top of a spring or volcano or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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