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February 8-12 model Discussion II


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:lol: Looks like a little bit of everything amounting to alot of nothing...lol

18Z NAM CAE

110210/0900Z 63 04008KT 36.9F SNRAPL 0:1| 0.0|| 0.0 0.004|| 0.00 0.00|| 0.00 0.00|| 0.00 16| 30| 53

110210/1000Z 64 03008KT 35.2F SNRAPL 0:1| 0.0|| 0.0 0.016|| 0.02 0.00|| 0.00 0.00|| 0.00 49| 17| 34

110210/1100Z 65 02007KT 33.1F RASN 0:1| 0.0|| 0.0 0.031|| 0.05 0.00|| 0.00 0.00|| 0.00 79| 0| 21

110210/1200Z 66 02008KT 33.1F SNOW 10:1| 0.0|| 0.0 0.028|| 0.08 0.00|| 0.00 0.00|| 0.00 87| 0| 13

----------------------------------------------+----++-------------++--------------++-------------++-----------+---+---

110210/1300Z 67 03008KT 32.9F SNOW 11:1| 0.6|| 0.6 0.055|| 0.13 0.00|| 0.00 0.00|| 0.00 88| 0| 12

110210/1400Z 68 03008KT 32.7F SNOW 8:1| 0.4|| 1.0 0.047|| 0.18 0.00|| 0.00 0.00|| 0.00 90| 0| 10

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I agree. Unless models trend towards the GFS IMO it's game on. I mean the 18Z GFS is a non-event for everyone east of MS, WTF?

i just saw that and had to do a double-check. 18z gfs is nothing for anyone lol

how can something that stout just die out, I just don't see it.

that, unfortunately, can happen...heavy rain moves from al to ga and dries up quickly. (no i do not believe that to be the case this time. at least i sure as fire hope not)

as others have mentioned - at this point , unless the other models start following the gfs, i think there will be snow across the se this week. i am much less confident on just how much :scooter:

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that, unfortunately, can happen...heavy rain moves from al to ga and dries up quickly. (no i do not believe that to be the case this time. at least i sure as fire hope not)

You mean to tell me that big body of water down south called the Gulf of Mexico doesn't feed any moisture into this system? I call shenanigans. :thumbsup::arrowhead:

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You mean to tell me that big body of water down south called the Gulf of Mexico doesn't feed any moisture into this system? I call shenanigans. :thumbsup:

thats the fine line lol. if it taps the gulf and is stronger, in comes the warmer air. if its not as strong the colder air stays in, but we dont get a lot of qpf. what we need are high ratios to make a little seem like a lot :snowman: i dont think its really supposed to get a good fetch going off the gulf this time

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Screw GuFuS. We have better models to watch. The HPC is showing almost 2.5" in the Gulf. It almost looks like they're expecting convection to cut off the moisture further north OR figure the cold air will keep it futher south, I don't know. But there's a lot of moisture showing up if we can just get it in the right place.

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???I'm confused about tonight

Tonight nt_chancesnow.gif Mostly cloudy. Rain likely with possible snow or thunderstorms this evening...then a slight chance of snow after midnight. Little or no snow accumulation. Breezy with lows around 30. West winds 15 to 20 mph. Chance of precipitation 70 percent.

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That .25 line needs to be moved into more of the central midlands of SC in my opinion. The latest 18z NAM came in with exactly .25 qpf as all snow for CAE btw. The op GFS did this with the last storm up until 24 hrs or less out while the NAM got heavier and we ended up with a pretty major 4-7 inch snow around SC. The Euro and UKMET are good for the low's track and both fit climo pretty well for this time of year although their precip shields are most likely off as they usually always are. This storm is knocking on last year's Feb 12th storm since it will be coming around the 11th so I will definitely buy the Euro's track but a little further Southward and a larger area of nicer precip. As long as the GFS and GGEM (which the RGEM is quite healtier btw) OP runs are too dry which GFS ensembles show, I think ATL, CAE, MYB, could all end up with something to end the Winter with the current trends. The local guys took sleet/snow 70% out for this area replaced it with rain/snow 50% weds night and Thursday. With the storm's potential track and climo once again, I'd expect to see this change and I-20 being the dividing line once again so anyone North of I-20 should be mainly snow and just South the mix. Surface temps look like they could inhibit much in the way of major accumulation across I-20 though! After tonight's 00z Euro/UKMet run, I think I'll stick with the Hi-Res WRF, RUC, GFS, SREF.

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???I'm confused about tonight

Tonight nt_chancesnow.gif Mostly cloudy. Rain likely with possible snow or thunderstorms this evening...then a slight chance of snow after midnight. Little or no snow accumulation. Breezy with lows around 30. West winds 15 to 20 mph. Chance of precipitation 70 percent.

had about 15 minutes of heavy snow go through dusted the ground temp 37

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Screw GuFuS. We have better models to watch. The HPC is showing almost 2.5" in the Gulf. It almost looks like they're expecting convection to cut off the moisture further north OR figure the cold air will keep it futher south, I don't know. But there's a lot of moisture showing up if we can just get it in the right place.

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It would be interesting to see a freezing line superimposed on this.

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Kinda wondering, but is there a threat for thunderstorms across the Gulf coast/Florida? Gotta think of a reason why we would be robbed of moisture. If there's thunderstorms down there, then all of the energy and moisture will go towards that, and it would ruin our QPF totals across N Alabama, Georgia, SC/NC. I say this after looking at the HPC map posted above. Just a thought.

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If burrel looks hard enough he will see some in a minute. That line has intensified a bit.

Whoops!! I wasn't paying attention to radar and let that cell slip through mby without seeing if there was snow mixed in. My wife is on her way home from Greenville so I told her to watch for flakes on the windshield. She should be driving through the heaviest echoes right now.

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18z RGEM in motion. Looks pretty healthy to me. :snowman:

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I completely agree Bing....glad to see you post over here. I enjoyed your input over at TW...too bad someone had a personal agenda against me there. It wouldn't suprise me to see our totals continue to ramp up from here on out...this could be another good one!

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Had nice blue skies here before the sun went down, in the nice black hole for precipitation of central NC. :sun: I just hope this next storm does not trend like this storm does, right now it looks awefully like what the modeling is showing for the upcoming storm. Plenty of precip, west, south, and east, but nothing here. I didn't even get a sprinkle today...:axe:

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Had nice blue skies here before the sun went down, in the nice black hole for precipitation of central NC. :sun: I just hope this next storm does not trend like this storm does, right now it looks awefully like what the modeling is showing for the upcoming storm. Plenty of precip, west, south, and east, but nothing here. I didn't even get a sprinkle today...:axe:

Day ain't over yet...

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