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February 8-12 model Discussion II


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This is a big **fwiw** since it is the late Nam, but the 0z nam literally gives Atl-ahn a MAJOR snowstorm with 3.5" on northside to 5" in Tony territory! Well, we can dream, can't we? Don't worry, I'm not about to believe this and continue to give Atl only a 5% chance at 4"+ as of now.

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The NAM is a major step in the right direction @84 snow is breaking out in N GA the upstate and into NC...looks like the upstate would be the big winner verbatim this run. weight_lift.gif

Hmmm not sure about that, nam has all snow here. Close to half inch liquid with maybe another tenth or two based on composite imagery. :snowman:

Doesn't mean much of course but it's pretty to look at.

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This is a big **fwiw** since it is the late Nam, but the 0z nam literally gives Atl-ahn a MAJOR snowstorm with 3.5" on northside to 5" in Tony territory! Well, we can dream, can't we? Don't worry, I'm not about to believe this and continue to give Atl only a 5% chance at 4"+ as of now.

Whatever happens, atlanta will somehow find a way to only get 50% to 75% of what everyone else in north ga gets.

Yea and the NAM probably isn't handling the temps right either as we saw with this past storm.

Well mid level dewpoints aren't nearly as low as with this past system just prior to precip onset so I don't expect to see the same thing we saw with this last one.

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Whatever happens, atlanta will somehow find a way to only get 50% to 75% of what everyone else in north ga gets.

Haha the airport got screwed during the Xmas storm and the Jan 10 storm while the city and points just north did really well. It's mainly a function of the airport being south of the city and the sig. snow line setting up right around I-20 IMO.

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Haha the airport got screwed during the Xmas storm and the Jan 10 storm while the city and points just north did really well. It's mainly a function of the airport being south of the city and the sig. snow line setting up right around I-20 IMO.

It is all a zen like balance. North side got screwed two years ago with the ULL, southside got screwed with the Christmas, and early Jan storms, now some balance seems in order, lol. Actually I don't mind being in the sweet spot days out. 10% chance you get screwed, 10% chance you get hit, 10% chance you get dry slotted, 60% chance it is somewhere in between, 10% chance you don't even get rain, lol. T

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Whatever happens, atlanta will somehow find a way to only get 50% to 75% of what everyone else in north ga gets.

Well mid level dewpoints aren't nearly as low as with this past system just prior to precip onset so I don't expect to see the same thing we saw with this last one.

What are you talking about? Downtown Atlanta did very well January 10th....4-7 inches with isolated spots of 8 inches.

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What are you talking about? Downtown Atlanta did very well January 10th....4-7 inches with isolated spots of 8 inches.

I think the official total at the Atlanta airport was 4.4 inches. Lookouts point was the northern sections always seem to be higher amounts. In this case the northern burbs of Atlanta were in the 8" range if I'm not mistaken.

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What are you talking about? Downtown Atlanta did very well January 10th....4-7 inches with isolated spots of 8 inches.

It's just a generalization.......usually when North Ga gets a nice winter event, FFC is usually just a little south of the heavier precip, so the "official" tally is not representative of N. Ga. a whole.

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I think the official total at the Atlanta airport was 4.4 inches. Lookouts point was the northern sections always seem to be higher amounts. In this case the northern burbs of Atlanta were in the 8" range if I'm not mistaken.

Yes, 4.4 at the airport and a total of 5.9 for the season. I disagree with the northern sections always getting higher amounts though. I think in March 2009 the north and northwest burbs got far less than Atlanta and the same goes for January 2002.

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I think the official total at the Atlanta airport was 4.4 inches. Lookouts point was the northern sections always seem to be higher amounts. In this case the northern burbs of Atlanta were in the 8" range if I'm not mistaken.

1) The northern sections often get more but they should often get more just from being further north.

2) N burbs got were mostly around the 6" mark, not 8". City got ~4.5-5":

3) There are exceptions. Examples: Airport got 5" in 1/1992 whereas I got no more than 2.5-3" on the northside then. Also, airport got close to 4" 3/1/2009 whereas some on northside had virtually nothing stick.

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Bad bad news from the GFS- trends continue to get worse. The fat lady is warming up......

So, 0Z nam gives 3.5-5" while 0Z gfs gives nada. 12Z Euro gives 2-3". With no good consensus yet, I'm going to stick with the following chances for snow for Atlanta:

No snow 30 %

trace of snow 20%

0.1-1.0" 20%

1.1-2.0" 15%

2.1-4.0" 10%

4.1+" 5%

So, I'd take the 12z Euro's 2-3" in a heartbeat as the odds are much higher that there'd be less, if any, snow.

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Bad bad news from the GFS- trends continue to get worse. The fat lady is warming up......

lol..agreed..especially considering how great the gfs has been this year and last year with our winter storms.

I think before dragging the fat lady away from the buffet table, it might be wise to see if the other models agree with it.

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1) The northern sections often get more but they should often get more just from being further north.

2) N burbs got were mostly around the 6" mark, not 8". City got ~4.5-5":

3) There are exceptions. Examples: Airport got 5" in 1/1992 whereas I got no more than 2.5-3" on the northside then. Also, airport got close to 4" 3/1/2009 whereas some on northside had virtually nothing stick.

Thanks Larry...The 8" was coming from a family member that lives in Marietta so it was definitely not a official report...:lol:

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The GFS continues to look horrible, if you want wintry wx. Does anyone have anything on the Ukie, GGEM, etc.? Curious to see how these other models are lining up with the GFS? Ugh...I am hoping for one more good shot at wintry wx before the warmup. Either way, I am not cliff diving, unless this scenario (0Z GFS) is still showing up on Tuesday. What an awesome Super Bowl huh? :thumbsup:

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lol..agreed..especially considering how great the gfs has been this year and last year with our winter storms.

I think before dragging the fat lady away from the buffet table, it might be wise to see if the other models agree with it.

It would be a rare win for the GFS- just do not like it trending the wrong direction. Not giving up yet- but getting more worried certainly. If the Euro and CMC are drier, that may be the ball game.

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