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February 5-6 Storm Threat II


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I don't know if you saw my post from earlier today..but there was a storm similiar to this 5 or 6 winters ago and Drag came on in the morning and issued ice storm warnings from about the pike south. it had looked like snow and then warmed enough for ice..I think you guys may have had at least half snow. This reminds me of that. I just don't remember the date or exact yr. We had quite an icestorm in town above 800 feet. i was at my other house at 650 feet and had some ice but as bad as a few 100 feet higher.

I'm not sure what event it was...might have been this one from early Jan 2005. I remember icing to the south of here that even made it to here eventually but we had snow for several hours first.

http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~gadomski/NARR/2005/us0108.php

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I'm not sure what event it was...might have been this one from early Jan 2005. I remember icing to the south of here that even made it to here eventually but we had snow for several hours first.

http://www.meteo.psu...2005/us0108.php

Yes that was the one..it was the year I moved to this house. Is that a decent analog?

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TOWARDS THE EARLY MORNING HOURS OF

SUNDAY...COULD SEE A SWITCH BACK TO LIGHT SNOW FOR A COUPLE OF

HOURS ACROSS THE REGION. SOUTH OF ROUTE 2...EXPECTING

ACCUMULATIONS OF 1 TO 3 INCHES. NORTH OF ROUTE 2 /WHERE ALL SNOW

IS EXPECTED/...ACCUMULATIONS WILL RANGE FROM 4 TO 7 INCHES

I wouldn't be shocked if you saw 1-2'' before the changeover and then another 1-3'' once it changes to snow.

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it's not bad.

It looked like an ok one to me..It was the same thing too. I think it was my first or 2nd year at Eastern..and the talk the whole time leading up was snow..and that morning when i got up Drag had switched to ice . Not saying that will happen..but keeping it back of my mind..esp with so much snow cover in the northeast..There was snow on the ground before that event though not nearly as much

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It looked like an ok one to me..It was the same thing too. I think it was my first or 2nd year at Eastern..and the talk the whole time leading up was snow..and that morning when i got up Drag had switched to ice . Not saying that will happen..but keeping it back of my mind..esp with so much snow cover in the northeast..There was snow on the ground before that event though not nearly as much

there are definitely some similarities to the events. everything is unique but who knows. if this thing can get in here quick and you get a good temp. drop tonight and things cloud over at the right time tomorrow morning...maybe it's more ice than not.

the flag against it for me is just how far north guidance is throwing the surface freezing line. i always adjust that S and SE in my mind to account for the models just not being able to handle surface temps well...but even adjusting SE some leaves a lot of SNE >32F.

MOS does have Tds holding in the 20s at BDL tomorrow FWIW...maybe you wet-bulb to 31F or something for a while.

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hey guys..not to pester with IMBY forecast...but could one of you guys fill me on the weather for Henniker, NH Pats Peak...for tomorrow...i'm headed there for a day of skiing, wondering the precip type and what time the precip starts

HI there! I think the mixed precip or snow wont' start til late afternoon and won't get heavy until after dark...at least that's how I'm reading it now.

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TOWARDS THE EARLY MORNING HOURS OF

SUNDAY...COULD SEE A SWITCH BACK TO LIGHT SNOW FOR A COUPLE OF

HOURS ACROSS THE REGION. SOUTH OF ROUTE 2...EXPECTING

ACCUMULATIONS OF 1 TO 3 INCHES. NORTH OF ROUTE 2 /WHERE ALL SNOW

IS EXPECTED/...ACCUMULATIONS WILL RANGE FROM 4 TO 7 INCHES

Hmmm... I wonder 3 miles N or Rt 2 counts. :lol:

I'm guessing mix here and all snow when it's cranking. Hoping for a net gain of 3"+

You could see the piles shrink a bit today. We hit 36 w/ full sun.

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there are definitely some similarities to the events. everything is unique but who knows. if this thing can get in here quick and you get a good temp. drop tonight and things cloud over at the right time tomorrow morning...maybe it's more ice than not.

the flag against it for me is just how far north guidance is throwing the surface freezing line. i always adjust that S and SE in my mind to account for the models just not being able to handle surface temps well...but even adjusting SE some leaves a lot of SNE >32F.

MOS does have Tds holding in the 20s at BDL tomorrow FWIW...maybe you wet-bulb to 31F or something for a while.

A concern for icing at least for areas closer to here is that even with a sfc low as far NW as the NAM (into SW CT)...its still holding onto marginal icing...so a little more conventional track could hold the low level cold in even more efficiently.

Lack of qpf and marginal temps don't scream for a full ice storm, but it could get a little bit nasty for a period.

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HI there! I think the mixed precip or snow wont' start til late afternoon and won't get heavy until after dark...at least that's how I'm reading it now.

Hi!:sun: great meeting you at the g2g...thanks for the weather update...guess i don't have to worry about the drive up, but the drive home will probably be messy, and rainy...wonder if we will see snow falling at the mtn? going with my sister and her two older kids (9, 11) it's their first time on skis! i can't wait to laugh at them!

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there are definitely some similarities to the events. everything is unique but who knows. if this thing can get in here quick and you get a good temp. drop tonight and things cloud over at the right time tomorrow morning...maybe it's more ice than not.

the flag against it for me is just how far north guidance is throwing the surface freezing line. i always adjust that S and SE in my mind to account for the models just not being able to handle surface temps well...but even adjusting SE some leaves a lot of SNE >32F.

MOS does have Tds holding in the 20s at BDL tomorrow FWIW...maybe you wet-bulb to 31F or something for a while.

Even though the antecedent airmass is not cold, the low TD's should help wetbulb the interior. That's going to be the key reason for any frozen imo...wetbulbing. I'm just not sure if he is far enough north to remain totally below 32, but it could be close.

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Even though the antecedent airmass is not cold, the low TD's should help wetbulb the interior. That's going to be the key reason for any frozen imo...wetbulbing. I'm just not sure if he is far enough north to remain totally below 32, but it could be close.

yeah i guess the big issue is whether it's 33-34F and rain or 31-32F and ice. i agree with will that areas north of the pike need to be on the lookout. south of there it's a tougher call. without a feed of fresh dry air into the low levels, it kind of has the -SN to -ZR to RN look to me for most regions south of the pike and west of 95.

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If the NAM or CMC or even EURO comes to fruition, the amounts for the NEK are much too low right now. I can see why they'd stay safe right now though.

12z CMC/UKMET/EURO and the 15z ETA (big jump north from the 9z run), as well as the 18z NAM (big jump north from 12z) all say BTV needs to expand the watch another tier of counties northward and issue Advisories for the rest of VT.

I find it very interesting that the meso-scale ETA and WRF all made a fairly significant jump in their latest runs to match up with the Canadian/UKMET/Euro. I wonder what the American models were *not* seeing 6 hours ago that they are now.

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A little OT but driving down 84 by Putnam and its amazing seeing all the trees glistening in the sun with the ice on them.

There was a lot of rime ice this morning, the sun rose with the snow shimmering ice encrusted, gorgeous site. Took a walk through the woods walking on the snow down in SCT, pretty neat and quite the different perspective above all stumps, rocks and undergrowth.

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Suprised to see a WAA hoisted for me, especially since its a Saturday morning with very little if any winter weather expected. Noticed OKX mentions the coastal front should penetrate eastern li and se ct with temps topping out around 50, and fog, snowpack killer :angry:

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