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No one is arguing that we will see another 70" in 5 weeks. I even said I agree with some of DT's points. However it's possible the area performs well later in February and March. It could be our latitude that saves us, while the MA warms, potentially.

Yeah I have no idea who is arguing that we see another 70" between now and the middle of March.

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I think March rocks, but it just sucks that our snowpack will be fossilized by the time we get there.....we had a shot to continue on, but it evaporated.

0z GFS basically cancels the warm-up...weak clipper next weekend, then a V-Day Miller B, then a cold shot. The Northeast is saved from the torch with the PV sitting over Quebec and the warmth never really arrives. We're starting to get some blocking back in the long range as an Aleutian low develops and high pressure builds over Canada.

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0z GFS basically cancels the warm-up...weak clipper next weekend, then a V-Day Miller B, then a cold shot. The Northeast is saved from the torch with the PV sitting over Quebec and the warmth never really arrives. We're starting to get some blocking back in the long range as an Aleutian low develops and high pressure builds over Canada.

Hope it's right.

I think I'm going to see greater than another 25" and I don't think that the atmosphere will break a sweat doing it.....however I think that the rest of Feb maybe relatively lame.

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You are more like NYC southward in climo vs SNE. However NYC has done well. I'm sure you've been up to Boston and note the very deep snow...would take an awful lot to kill it. Nonetheless, If I were in your shoes I'd feel the same way. For me, this one so far is every bit as good as the 4 you've mentioned. But the behavior over the next months might tamp me down but not a lot. As I mentioned, 6 feet of snow in 5 weeks is epic for a major US metro area.

Newport's its own little micro-climate. In the big storms like the ones this winter I get the front-end thump then we dry-slot..and then when precip. redevelops it's either light rain or lighter snows with the heaviest accumulating snows from Warwick/Fall River on north.. I probably get the least amount of snow on the SNE "mainland" because this 2X14 mile island sits in the middle of Narragansett Bay and I'm often on the wrong side of the coastal front. And when storms bomb out I'm usually too far west as the heaviest snow is usually from New Bedford on east. I was talking to a guy on the Naval Base today who lives in Brookline and he couldn't believe what little snow was on the ground here. Can't complain too much because I swim comfortably the entire month of september.

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I hope we hang onto some clouds tmw....that strong sun eating away at the exposed snow makes me want to vomit.....if I had my way, it would be overcast during the daylight hours frkm T-day to Patriot's Day.......if only I controlled the Globe, I would have this entire forum up screaming and pumping their collective fists....thirsty for more....having to run my car over streets strewn with snow-blood is just nauseating.

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Yeah I have no idea who is arguing that we see another 70" between now and the middle of March.

It seems like people are claiming the epic stretch is over. LOL, well no sh*t sherlock...it's going to be hard to accomplish what we just did. However, it doesn't mean I should go to Home Depot and buy Scotts 3 step fertilizer, like some are making it out to be. I think it tries to make a comeback in some shape or form..and the op runs have shown signs of this.

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I hope we hang onto some clouds tmw....that strong sun eating away at the exposed snow makes me want to vomit.....if I had my way, it would be overcast during the daylight hours frkm T-day to Patriot's Day.......if only I controlled the Globe, I would have this entire forum up screaming and pumping their collective fists....thirsty for more....having to run my car over streets strewn with snow-blood is just nauseating.

I agree...and having no woods around me sux. Luckily we have two and three family homes for shade. arrowheadsmiley.png

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It seems like people are claiming the epic stretch is over. LOL, well no sh*t sherlock...it's going to be hard to accomplish what we just did. However, it doesn't mean I should go to Home Depot and buy Scotts 3 step fertilizer, like some are making it out to be. I think it tries to make a comeback in some shape or form..and the op runs have shown signs of this.

Yeah if we had another epic stretch like we just had and then some nickle and dime to finish it off in late Mar/Early Apr...then I'd crack the all time snowfall record in one season here by like 2-3 feet. Not happening...or at least very unlikely. Going out on a limb predicting that we won't see that. :lol:

Maybe we go out with a wimper, but I somehow doubt it. I think we'll see a final hurrah as a parting gift from this winter. The big ones usually do. The only one I remember off hand that was kind of feeble at the end was 2002-2003...it had that drawn out April event over 3 days, but it was pretty useless with like 4-6 inches of slop that probably never got more than 3 inches deep. All the others went out with a bang....2005, 2001 (interior), 1996, 1994, 1993, etc.

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It seems like people are claiming the epic stretch is over. LOL, well no sh*t sherlock...it's going to be hard to accomplish what we just did. However, it doesn't mean I should go to Home Depot and buy Scotts 3 step fertilizer, like some are making it out to be. I think it tries to make a comeback in some shape or form..and the op runs have shown signs of this.

No offense but not everyone gives two shi'a about nor is talking about Boston Worcester or the hills. The imbyism is just peverse.

I just said I though it'd be normal from here on out which would be roughly 20" or more for most of you. The days of being able to forecast the most snow for any given event already passed ten days ago and now we have "normal"....

Why people care so much about what others say is comical...it doesn't change what happens in the clouds.

It's 35 in Boston at 11, 41 in NYC. You guys are talking about a thaw in x days when one is already occurring.

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GFS only has 2-3 days above freezing the entire run.

Yeah the 0z GFS just said "What torch?" It keeps the cold air and snow threats locked in over the Northeast while the rest of the country trends overwhelmingly mild. We actually get an arctic shot after the V-Day storm with 850s near -20C and then another cold shot at the end of the run. It doesn't look nearly as bad as some of the other recent runs which were just miserably warm.

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Very wrong in many ways. The only thing that is correct here is that SNE is south of NNE.

You're just in a sniffle because I place lowlands Keene in SNE. It's a CT valley snow hole.

You are starved by the Greens to your west and the Monadnocks steal moisture from those nice snowy easterlies before it can get to you.

That picture of you with your back to the camera shouts out "Spinster". "Hag". "Scold"

A 19 yr old scold.

And yeah, I know you're a boy but you sure got that tight spinster look down.

Granny.

Vim Toot!

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Yeah if we had another epic stretch like we just had and then some nickle and dime to finish it off in late Mar/Early Apr...then I'd crack the all time snowfall record in one season here by like 2-3 feet. Not happening...or at least very unlikely. Going out on a limb predicting that we won't see that. :lol:

Maybe we go out with a wimper, but I somehow doubt it. I think we'll see a final hurrah as a parting gift from this winter. The big ones usually do. The only one I remember off hand that was kind of feeble at the end was 2002-2003...it had that drawn out April event over 3 days, but it was pretty useless with like 4-6 inches of slop that probably never got more than 3 inches deep. All the others went out with a bang....2005, 2001 (interior), 1996, 1994, 1993, etc.

2002-03 was pretty overrated from my perspective.

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No offense but not everyone gives two shi'a about nor is talking about Boston Worcester or the hills. The imbyism is just peverse.

I just said I though it'd be normal from here on out which would be roughly 20" or more for most of you. The days of being able to forecast the most snow for any given event already passed ten days ago and now we have "normal"....

Why people care so much about what others say is comical...it doesn't change what happens in the clouds.

It's 35 in Boston at 11, 41 in NYC. You guys are talking about a thaw in x days when one is already occurring.

No offense but the irony of this statement is blinding.

If you don't like people discussing the 95% of the region where most people live who are having a great winter, nobody is forcing you to discuss it.

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No offense but not everyone gives two shi'a about nor is talking about Boston Worcester or the hills. The imbyism is just peverse.

I just said I though it'd be normal from here on out which would be roughly 20" or more for most of you. The days of being able to forecast the most snow for any given event already passed ten days ago and now we have "normal"....

Why people care so much about what others say is comical...it doesn't change what happens in the clouds.

It's 35 in Boston at 11, 41 in NYC. You guys are talking about a thaw in x days when one is already occurring.

It wasn't directed at you specifically, and you are getting snappy because areas 10 miles from you have had an awesome winter. Your imby mentality is being vividly displayed here.

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There are dozens of posters from SRI, SEMass (the Cranberry bogs) as you say, The Cape, and the Islands on this forum.

Slightly above normal down here..yes, but nothing epic.

Right, which is why we never complain when you speak of your area.

I'm out....need a break and am therefore going to forego the sh**ty EURO for the 1st time in weeks.

29.9\26

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There are dozens of posters from SRI, SEMass (the Cranberry bogs) as you say, The Cape, and the Islands on this forum.

Slightly above normal down here..yes, but nothing epic.

Yes we have posters from all over...but the mentality that just a select few are conspiring against the cranberry bog region is false. Acting like the greater Hartford, Worcester and Boston metro regions only makes up a small fraction of posters is pretty silly and claiming its extreme IMBY-ism to discuss those 3 metro regions as having an epic winter or how snowy its been.

I'm sure if this was '98-'99 or something and we were having a bad winter while SE MA/Cape Cod were doing fairly well he'd be saying how great it was. :lol:

Nobody forces anyone to participate in discussion here...and we aren't going to try and suppress discussion about 3 of the largest metro regions in SNE where a majority of the posters live. That's like living on the south fork of Long Island and then complaining that way too much focus has been on Manhatten or Northern New Jersey suburbs in the NYC subforum. I think its fair to try and include all regions around SNE, but I think its to be expected that more posts will focus on the areas where more people live.

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The one thing that sucks though is as the sun angle is increasing as well as daylight hours even if temps don't go above freezing the snow is becoming longer exposed to the sun.

Yes, it's incredibly noticeable down here in Westchester; the sun just starts to vaporize the snow once you get into February. We really need constant snow events to rebuild the snowpack by mid-February if it's not going to wither in the sun, even if temperatures don't go ridiculously above normal. Even after today, you could see some bare spots showing on the heavily sloped areas which didn't support much snowpack, despite that there's a general 12-15" on the ground. This is why I'd much rather have a good December/January and mediocre February as seems to be the pattern this year; that's the time when the snowpack remains fresh and you can enjoy it. It really starts to get ugly in late February/March; I remember a snowstorm around March 20th, perhaps in 2004...there was like 7" of wet snow overnight, and it was almost all gone by the evening. You could barely tell it had snowed.

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It wasn't directed at you specifically, and you are getting snappy because areas 10 miles from you have had an awesome winter. Your imby mentality is being vividly displayed here.

In all fairness at times this winter he has rooted for snow in ski country at his expense. Considering the carnage that has occurred this winter in extreme SE Coastal areas it's my opinion that all southern posters have been well behaved...and have complained a lot less then some of our more famous snowstitutes....People are pi$$ed off tonight because the game had such an anti-climactic ending. The final drive of the game produced absolutely nothing and for those of us who had absolutely nothing invested in this game we didn't want to see this game go out like this winter....Joe Buck's a solid announcer, but he's a little light on the drama. Aikman's certainly no Madden. If Howard Cosell were around today he'd be even bigger than he was back then because American loves an arrogant sob.

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In all fairness at times this winter he has rooted for snow in ski country at his expense. Considering the carnage that has occurred this winter in extreme SE Coastal areas it's my opinion that all southern posters have been well behaved...and have complained a lot less then some of our more famous snow gluttons....People are pi$$ed off tonight because the game had such an anti-climactic ending. The final drive of the game produced absolutely nothing and for those of us who had absolutely nothing invested in this game we didn't want to see this game go out this winter....Joe Buck's a solid announcer, but he's a little light on the drama. Aikman's certainly no Madden. If Howard Cosell were around today he'd be even bigger than he was back then because American loves an arrogant sob.

He has a condo up there and is an avid skier....must have been miserable for him.

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In all fairness at times this winter he has rooted for snow in ski country at his expense. Considering the carnage that has occurred this winter in extreme SE Coastal areas it's my opinion that all southern posters have been well behaved...and have complained a lot less then some of our more famous snowstitutes....People are pi$$ed off tonight because the game had such an anti-climactic ending. The final drive of the game produced absolutely nothing and for those of us who had absolutely nothing invested in this game we didn't want to see this game go out like this winter....Joe Buck's a solid announcer, but he's a little light on the drama. Aikman's certainly no Madden. If Howard Cosell were around today he'd be even bigger than he was back then because American loves an arrogant sob.

ME, ME, ME , ME....guilty as charged and I couldn't give 2 sh**ts......go ahead and complain......couldn't care less.

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In all fairness at times this winter he has rooted for snow in ski country at his expense. Considering the carnage that has occurred this winter in extreme SE Coastal areas it's my opinion that all southern posters have been well behaved...and have complained a lot less then some of our more famous snow gluttons....People are pi$ed off tonight because the game had such an anti-climactic ending. The final drive of the game produced absolutely nothing and for those of us who had absolutely nothing invested in this game we didn't want to see this game go out this winter....Joe Buck's a solid announcer, but he's a little light on the drama. Aikman's certainly no Madden. If Howard Cosell were around today he'd be even bigger than he was back then because American loves an arrogant sob.

It's a little early to claim we had the final drive of winter. Again, I understand you guys are frustrated..Lord knows I would be too, but it's a little too early to claim winter is over..especially when climo loves this time of year for you guys. Could it be..sure, but imo I think frustrations are getting the better of some, and it's coming out in the posts. Scott is a good dude, and I appreciate his analysis, but to claim imby syndrome when 95% of the population is having a good winter is hypocritical.

FWIW I lived on the south shore for years, so I know what it's like to be frustrated at times.

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