Edge Weather Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 It looks to me as if the GFS is handling the northern stream energy diving down completely differently than the NAM is at 84 hrs. At 84 hrs the NAM is diving the northern energy just about due south and the GFS is shunting it east. Massive differences between these two models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isnice Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 the idea of a compressed height field is winning. i don't like the recent trends Agreed. That storm on Tuesday needs to be a phased system. If it doesn't phase, it won't come close enough west to be in the ideal 50/50 position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isnice Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 At h5 at 108, this has even a worse look to it than the 6z GFS to be honest with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge Weather Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 The only good thing is that this is the GFS we are talking about here now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Weak, disorganized mess. Misses everyone. Out to 135. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe4alb Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 still no phase what so ever on the GFS, that northern branch needs to dive a lot more than what the GFS is showing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge Weather Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Well, it is doing that on the NAM at 84 hrs. It looks completely different on the NAM. still no phase what so ever on the GFS, that northern branch needs to dive a lot more than what the GFS is showing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossi Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Well, it is doing that on the NAM at 84 hrs. It looks completely different on the NAM. At this point 5 days away neither model is reliable. Euro leads the way at this point. Rossi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternLI Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Not surprised to see models all over the place. I'll be waiting patiently for the 12Z EURO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 The 2010/2011 winter season continues with a total lack of consistency with guidance. Suspect we'll need to wait until 72 hours (after the arctic front and subsequent wave) when guidance will have a better handle. Its also been noted the northern stream energy which has been crucial to dictating most systems this season remain in data sparse regions. The GGEM and Euro have the better idea in my opinion and that its either a glaze or hit for i-95. At the least the inland/cutter ideas are looking unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycsnow Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Ggem looks nice for Tuesday, don't know how to post on my iPhone sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge Weather Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 12z Canadian looks as progressive as every other model coming out right now for this storm. The only hope we have left is the Euro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge Weather Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Already posted in the thread for that storm. Ggem looks nice for Tuesday, don't know how to post on my iPhone sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge Weather Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Something definitely got into the models today. The UKMET is also sheared out and out to sea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 The 2010/2011 winter season continues with a total lack of consistency with guidance. Suspect we'll need to wait until 72 hours (after the arctic front and subsequent wave) when guidance will have a better handle. Its also been noted the northern stream energy which has been crucial to dictating most systems this season remain in data sparse regions. The GGEM and Euro have the better idea in my opinion and that its either a glaze or hit for i-95. At the least the inland/cutter ideas are looking unlikely. See, what did I say last night lol. We wont know anything until after the Tuesday storm clears the coast and is up in NF. People need to be patient; life is so much more fun when its unpredictable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Something definitely got into the models today. The UKMET is also sheared out and out to sea. Hopefully it was the same virus that hit NASDAQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted February 5, 2011 Author Share Posted February 5, 2011 hr 102 low in se tx...ok and dallas get another snowstorm 12z euro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted February 5, 2011 Author Share Posted February 5, 2011 hr 108 low of LA....light over running snow to ky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted February 5, 2011 Author Share Posted February 5, 2011 hr 120 low in southern GA....mod-heavy snow from central NC-southern VA...light snow up to dc-baltimore... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted February 5, 2011 Author Share Posted February 5, 2011 hr 126 low just sw of hse...big hit going on in central NC and va....mod snow phl-dc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted February 5, 2011 Author Share Posted February 5, 2011 hr 132 150-200 miles east of the delmarva...closer west then 00z run last night... mod snow from ric-nyc....heavy snow for se nj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted February 5, 2011 Author Share Posted February 5, 2011 hr 138 light snow left over..it escapes just east for a major hit in our area....its a better hit up to nyc then 00z run...but not the 12z euro yesterday....glad to see the euro hold somewhat serve...and not go weak ots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossi Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 hr 138 light snow left over..it escapes just east for a major hit in our area....its a better hit up to nyc then 00z run...but not the 12z euro yesterday....glad to see the euro hold somewhat serve...and not go weak ots All, Do you have the total precip from Monmouth on north? Rossi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted February 5, 2011 Author Share Posted February 5, 2011 All, Do you have the total precip from Monmouth on north? Rossi prob around .5-.75...higher end of that total as one goes towards monmouth county Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazess556 Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 KNYC .4 in. KTTN .50 in. KBLM .73 in . These are all snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherX Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 12Z Euro amounts extracted from the raw data for selected areas for the Thurs-Fri event KPHL .60" all snow KEWR .40" all snow KNYC .39 all snow KTTN .49 all snow KLGA .40" all snow Good ratios on this one, the Euro is quite cold.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted February 5, 2011 Author Share Posted February 5, 2011 12Z Euro amounts extracted from the raw data for selected areas for the Thurs-Fri event KPHL .60" all snow KEWR .40" all snow KNYC .39 all snow KTTN .49 all snow KLGA .40" all snow Good ratios on this one, the Euro is quite cold.... Thanks...i try to give a running total...but its hard as until the run ends you get all the preciep that falls for the whole run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uofmiami Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 EC DAY 5 & 6: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherX Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Thanks...i try to give a running total...but its hard as until the run ends you get all the preciep that falls for the whole run I use the Accuwx Pro site which has the model data extracted as the run comes out....nifty feature....I like SV too, but it's hard to discern amounts, as you know.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jconsor Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 How about KISP and KFOK? 12Z Euro amounts extracted from the raw data for selected areas for the Thurs-Fri event KPHL .60" all snow KEWR .40" all snow KNYC .39 all snow KTTN .49 all snow KLGA .40" all snow Good ratios on this one, the Euro is quite cold.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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