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A lot of wooded and rural area near here.

I wonder if maybe it could have been an F-0 or F-1?

PRELIMINARY LOCAL STORM REPORT...CORRECTED

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE PITTSBURGH PA

345 PM EDT MON APR 25 2011

..TIME... ...EVENT... ...CITY LOCATION... ...LAT.LON...

..DATE... ....MAG.... ..COUNTY LOCATION..ST.. ...SOURCE....

..REMARKS..

0257 PM TSTM WND DMG 1 N OLIVEBURG 41.01N 79.03W

04/25/2011 JEFFERSON PA EMERGENCY MNGR

MULTIPLE TREES DOWN IN BARTON CHAPEL RD AREA WITH

RESIDENTIAL DAMAGE OF AT LEAST 2 HOMES. HAIL ALSO

COVERED GROUND.

&&

CORRECTED REMARKS

EVENT NUMBER PBZ1100659

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Picking up a 75 DBZ hail core south of Bradford. The warning also indicates weak rotation with the storm. Wunderground's algorithm shows a 100% chance of severe hail with a maximum possible size of 3.25 inches.

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MESOSCALE DISCUSSION 0586

NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK

1218 PM CDT TUE APR 26 2011

AREAS AFFECTED...PARTS OF THE CNTRL APPALACHIANS...UPPER

MID-ATLANTIC

CONCERNING...SEVERE POTENTIAL...WATCH LIKELY

VALID 261718Z - 261815Z

TSTM COVERAGE WILL LIKELY INCREASE THROUGH THE AFTERNOON WITH

ATTENDANT RISKS FOR DAMAGING WINDS...SEVERE HAIL...AND AN ISOLATED

TORNADO OR TWO. THE PROBABILITY OF A WW ISSUANCE BY 19Z IS 80

PERCENT.

WITHIN A BROAD WARM SECTOR IN PLACE ACROSS THE UPPER OH VALLEY

THROUGH THE NRN/CNTRL APPALACHIANS...A COUPLE OF N/S CONFLUENT AXES

HAVE FOSTERED DISCRETE CELL DEVELOPMENT FROM SWRN NY TO CNTRL PA AND

ACROSS THE NRN WV PANHANDLE INTO SWRN PA. MORNING RUNS OF THE

HRRR/WRF-NMM AND 00Z WRF-NSSL ALL SUGGEST UPSCALE GROWTH WILL OCCUR

THROUGH THE AFTERNOON AS CONTINUED HEATING LEADS TO WEAK/MODERATE

INSTABILITY AND FORCING PERSISTS DOWNSTREAM OF UPPER GREAT LAKES

SHORT WAVE TROUGH. GIVEN 35 TO 45 KT EFFECTIVE SHEAR...ORGANIZED

CLUSTERS WITH EMBEDDED SUPERCELL STRUCTURES APPEAR

LIKELY...PRIMARILY PRODUCING DAMAGING WINDS AND SEVERE HAIL.

..GRAMS.. 04/26/2011

ATTN...WFO...ALY...BGM...BUF...CTP...LWX...PBZ...RLX...

LAT...LON 39877731 39077856 38877997 39328086 40598040 42627860

43377648 43417539 43127457 42847451 42447473 40857633

39877731

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New Day 2 outlook has hatched moderate risk for us. Can't say I remember seeing that before.

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SPC AC 261730

DAY 2 CONVECTIVE OUTLOOK

NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK

1230 PM CDT TUE APR 26 2011

VALID 271200Z - 281200Z

...THERE IS A MDT RISK OF SVR TSTMS WEDNESDAY ACROSS PARTS OF

EASTERN INDIANA...MUCH OF OHIO...WESTERN PENNSYLVANIA...WEST

VIRGINIA...MUCH OF KENTUCKY AND TENNESSEE...NORTHEAST

GEORGIA...CENTRAL AND NORTHERN ALABAMA AND MISSISSIPPI...

...THERE IS A SLGT RISK OF SVR TSTMS SURROUNDING THE MODERATE RISK

AREA ACROSS MUCH OF THE EASTERN U.S....

...SYNOPSIS...

...OUTBREAK OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS POSSIBLE...

MODELS INDICATE THAT THE LARGE UPPER TROUGH...NOW EVOLVING OVER THE

CENTRAL U.S...WILL SLOWLY LIFT ACROSS AND EAST OF THE MISSISSIPPI

VALLEY DURING THIS PERIOD. AS IT DOES...IT APPEARS LIKELY TO TAKE

ON AN INCREASING NEGATIVE TILT...AS A STRONG SHORT WAVE IMPULSE

LIFTS OUT OF ITS BASE...AND GRADUALLY PIVOTS AROUND THE EASTERN

PERIPHERY OF A DEVELOPING CYCLONIC CIRCULATION OVER THE UPPER

MISSISSIPPI VALLEY/GREAT LAKES REGION. THIS SHOULD BE ACCOMPANIED

BY STRENGTHENING CYCLONIC MID/UPPER FLOW FIELDS IN THE WARM SECTOR

OF A SURFACE CYCLONE PROGGED TO DEEPEN AS IT MIGRATES NORTHEAST OF

THE OZARK PLATEAU TOWARD THE GREAT LAKES. THIS PROBABLY WILL

INCLUDE A 90-100 KT 500 MB JET CORE NOSING ACROSS THE TENNESSEE AND

OHIO VALLEYS BY LATE AFTERNOON.

VARIABILITY EXISTS AMONG THE MODELS CONCERNING THE DETAILS OF THIS

CYCLOGENESIS...PERHAPS IN PART DUE TO THE INFLUENCE OF CONVECTION

...WHICH COULD BE EXTENSIVE AND ONGOING AT 12Z WEDNESDAY. HIGH

RESOLUTION MODEL DATA IS STRONGLY SUGGESTIVE THAT A SIGNIFICANT

CLUSTER OF STORMS COULD BE IN PROGRESS WEDNESDAY MORNING EAST OF THE

MIDDLE AND LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY. IF THIS VERIFIES...IT IS

UNCERTAIN WHAT INFLUENCE IT WILL HAVE ON SUBSEQUENT BOUNDARY LAYER

DESTABILIZATION ACROSS THE OHIO/TENNESSEE VALLEY REGION. THIS

UNCERTAINTY PRECLUDES AN OUTLOOK UPGRADE TO HIGH RISK PROBABILITIES

AT THE PRESENT TIME. HOWEVER...MOST OTHER INDICATIONS ARE STRONGLY

SUGGESTIVE THAT A MAJOR OUTBREAK OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS COMMENCING

TONIGHT ACROSS PARTS OF THE OZARK PLATEAU/LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY

WILL CONTINUE AND EXPAND NORTHWARD AND EASTWARD TOWARD THE

APPALACHIANS DURING THE DAY WEDNESDAY. THIS WILL INCLUDE THE

POTENTIAL FOR LONG-LIVED SUPERCELLS CAPABLE OF STRONG

TORNADOES...AND ORGANIZED STORM CLUSTERS CAPABLE OF STRONG DAMAGING

WIND GUSTS.

...EASTERN U.S...

IN AREAS NOT IMPACTED SIGNIFICANTLY BY EARLY MORNING CONVECTION...

PRE-FRONTAL BOUNDARY LAYER MOISTURE OVER A BROAD AREA EAST OF THE

MISSISSIPPI VALLEY INTO THE APPALACHIANS...AND PERHAPS EAST OF THE

APPALACHIANS...WILL BE SUPPORTIVE OF CAPE ON THE ORDER OF 1000 TO

2000 J/KG WITH SURFACE HEATING. IN THE PRESENCE OF WIND PROFILES

CHARACTERIZED BY STRONG DEEP LAYER SHEAR...AND LARGE CLOCKWISE

CURVED LOW-LEVEL HODOGRAPHS BENEATH A BROAD 50-70 KT SOUTHERLY

LOW-LEVEL JET...A SIGNIFICANT TORNADIC SUPERCELL THREAT COULD BE

ONGOING OR RAPIDLY DEVELOP BY LATE MORNING ACROSS PARTS OF

NORTHEASTERN MISSISSIPPI/NORTHERN ALABAMA THROUGH WESTERN/MIDDLE

TENNESSEE AND WESTERN/CENTRAL KENTUCKY. HOWEVER...THIS WILL BE

LARGELY CONTINGENT ON EVOLUTION OF OVERNIGHT CONVECTION. IF AN

LARGE CLUSTER OF STORMS DEVELOPS AS SOME GUIDANCE SUGGESTS...AN

EXPANSIVE SURFACE COLD POOL COULD SLOW DESTABILIZATION AND MITIGATE

THE SEVERE POTENTIAL.

REGARDLESS...SUFFICIENT WEAKENING OF THE CONVECTION AND THE

ASSOCIATED COLD POOL IS EXPECTED TO OCCUR BY THE AFTERNOON TO

SUPPORT WEAK TO MODERATE DESTABILIZATION IN THE PRESENCE OF

STRENGTHENING LARGE-SCALE FORCING FOR UPWARD VERTICAL MOTION. AND

THIS PROBABLY WILL BE SUFFICIENT TO SUPPORT CONVECTIVE

DEVELOPMENT...INCLUDING TORNADIC SUPERCELLS...IN THE WARM SECTOR

...AND ALONG AND AHEAD OF THE COLD FRONT TRAILING SOUTHWARD FROM THE

SURFACE LOW. AS THIS FRONT ADVANCES TOWARD THE APPALACHIANS

...UPSCALE CONVECTIVE GROWTH INTO AN EXTENSIVE SQUALL LINE COULD

OCCUR BY EARLY WEDNESDAY EVENING...BEFORE SPREADING EAST OF THE

APPALACHIANS OVERNIGHT.

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Severe Thunderstorm Watch till 9 PM.

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URGENT - IMMEDIATE BROADCAST REQUESTED

SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH NUMBER 213

NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK

150 PM EDT TUE APR 26 2011

THE NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER HAS ISSUED A

SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH FOR PORTIONS OF

EXTREME WESTERN MARYLAND

MUCH OF UPSTATE NEW YORK

PENNSYLVANIA

NORTHERN WEST VIRGINIA

LAKE ONTARIO

EFFECTIVE THIS TUESDAY AFTERNOON AND EVENING FROM 150 PM UNTIL

900 PM EDT.

HAIL TO 2 INCHES IN DIAMETER...THUNDERSTORM WIND GUSTS TO 70

MPH...AND DANGEROUS LIGHTNING ARE POSSIBLE IN THESE AREAS.

THE SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH AREA IS APPROXIMATELY ALONG AND 90

STATUTE MILES EAST AND WEST OF A LINE FROM 60 MILES NORTH

NORTHEAST OF UTICA NEW YORK TO 45 MILES SOUTH SOUTHEAST OF

LATROBE PENNSYLVANIA. FOR A COMPLETE DEPICTION OF THE WATCH SEE

THE ASSOCIATED WATCH OUTLINE UPDATE (WOUS64 KWNS WOU3).

REMEMBER...A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH MEANS CONDITIONS ARE

FAVORABLE FOR SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS IN AND CLOSE TO THE WATCH

AREA. PERSONS IN THESE AREAS SHOULD BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR

THREATENING WEATHER CONDITIONS AND LISTEN FOR LATER STATEMENTS

AND POSSIBLE WARNINGS. SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS CAN AND OCCASIONALLY

DO PRODUCE TORNADOES.

DISCUSSION...SEVERAL BANDS OF BROKEN CONVECTION ARE DEVELOPING ALONG

TWO PRIMARY ZONES OF LOW LEVEL CONFLUENCE ACROSS THE OH VALLEY INTO

UPSTATE NY. THUNDERSTORMS WILL GRADUALLY INTENSIFY AND INCREASE IN

AREAL COVERAGE AS THEY SPREAD/DEVELOP DOWNSTREAM. LARGE HAIL AND

DAMAGING WINDS ARE EXPECTED WITH THE STRONGEST STORMS.

AVIATION...A FEW SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS WITH HAIL SURFACE AND ALOFT

TO 2 INCHES. EXTREME TURBULENCE AND SURFACE WIND GUSTS TO 60

KNOTS. A FEW CUMULONIMBI WITH MAXIMUM TOPS TO 450. MEAN STORM

MOTION VECTOR 22030.

...DARROW

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WUUS51 KPBZ 261950

SVRPBZ

PAC003-051-059-125-129-262030-

/O.NEW.KPBZ.SV.W.0049.110426T1950Z-110426T2030Z/

BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED

SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE PITTSBURGH PA

350 PM EDT TUE APR 26 2011

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN PITTSBURGH HAS ISSUED A

* SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING FOR...

NORTHWESTERN FAYETTE COUNTY IN SOUTHWEST PENNSYLVANIA...

SOUTHEASTERN WASHINGTON COUNTY IN SOUTHWEST PENNSYLVANIA...

SOUTHEASTERN ALLEGHENY COUNTY IN SOUTHWEST PENNSYLVANIA...

WESTMORELAND COUNTY IN SOUTHWEST PENNSYLVANIA...

NORTHEASTERN GREENE COUNTY IN SOUTHWEST PENNSYLVANIA...

* UNTIL 430 PM EDT

* AT 348 PM EDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED A

SEVERE THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING QUARTER SIZE HAIL...AND

DAMAGING WINDS IN EXCESS OF 60 MPH. THIS STORM WAS LOCATED NEAR

BROWNSVILLE...MOVING NORTHEAST AT 40 MPH.

* OTHER LOCATIONS IN THE WARNING INCLUDE BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO

BENTLEYVILLE... BROWNSVILLE... CALIFORNIA...

CHARLEROI... BELLE VERNON... MONESSEN...

MONONGAHELA... DONORA... PERRYOPOLIS...

WEST NEWTON... NEW STANTON... IRWIN...

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

IF YOU ARE IN THE PATH OF THIS STORM...PREPARE IMMEDIATELY FOR

DAMAGING WINDS...DESTRUCTIVE HAIL...AND DEADLY CLOUD TO GROUND

LIGHTNING. PEOPLE OUTSIDE SHOULD MOVE TO A SHELTER...PREFERABLY

INSIDE A STRONG BUILDING BUT AWAY FROM WINDOWS.

PLEASE REPORT HAIL...STRONG WINDS OR WIND DAMAGE TO THE NATIONAL

WEATHER SERVICE BY CALLING TOLL FREE. 1-877-633-6772...WHEN YOU CAN

DO SO SAFELY.

A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 900 PM EDT

TUESDAY EVENING FOR WESTERN MARYLAND AND WESTERN PENNSYLVANIA AND

NORTHERN WEST VIRGINIA.

&&

LAT...LON 4048 7962 4019 7924 3992 7996 4007 8011

TIME...MOT...LOC 1950Z 234DEG 35KT 4003 7990

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AAS

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NWS PIT's thoughts on severe potential tomorrow.

.NEAR TERM /THROUGH WEDNESDAY/...

STRONG TO SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS HAVE SHIFTED EAST OF THE

RIDGES...ATMOSPHERE OVER MOST OF THE UPPER OHIO HAS SUFFICIENTLY

STABILIZED TO DROP SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH 213 FOR ALL COUNTIES

EXCEPT FOR PRESTON, TUCKER, AND GARRETT.

STILL SOME SHOWER POTENTIAL OVERNIGHT UNDER STRONG SOUTH TO

SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW ALOFT, BUT MAIN CONCERN OF THE FORECAST WILL BE

MODERATE RISK OF SEVERE WEATHER ON WEDNESDAY WITH RISK COVERING

THE FULL SPECTRUM OF SEVERE POSSIBILITIES GIVEN PROGNOSIS OF

INSTABILITY AND SHEAR.

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back down to slight risk

THE COLD FRONT WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE EAST INTO THE WESTERN OHIO VALLEY THIS AFTN. WARM AND MOIST AIR WILL CONTINUE TO SURGE NORTHWARD ACROSS THE REGION WITH INSTABILITY INCREASING THIS AFTN. HIGH RES MODELS/SREF INDICATE A SHORTWAVE AHEAD OF THE FRONT MOVING INTO THE AREA THIS AFTN. THIS WILL LIKELY BE THE TRIGGER FOR TSTMS TO DEVELOP. LATEST MODEL RUNS SHOW THE GREATEST DEEP LAYER SHEAR AND ROTATIONAL POTENTIAL ACROSS THE LOWER OHIO/TENNESSEE VALLEYS...HOWEVER THINK ENOUGH POTENTIAL EXISTS OVER THE UPPER OHIO VALLEY FOR SOME OF THE STORMS TO BECOME SEVERE LATE THIS AFTN INTO TONIGHT AS THE FRONT MAKES ITS APPROACH. ANOTHER CONCERN IS HEAVY RAIN POTENTIAL. MODELS CONTINUE TO INDICATE THE FRONT BEGINNING TO ACCELERATE THIS EVENING...MAKING THE POTENTIAL FOR TRAINING OF PRECIP LESS LIKELY. THUS...WILL HOLD OFF ON ISSUING A FLASH FLOOD WATCH. WILL HIGHLIGHT THE POTENTIAL FOR A FEW STORMS PRODUCING HEAVY RAIN IN THE HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK. GIVEN THE WARM TEMPERATURES OF THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS...AND NO REAL MECHANISM FOR SIGNIFICANTLY COOLER TEMPERATURES TODAY...WILL STAY CLOSER TO THE WARMER GFS MOS VALUES TODAY AND TONIGHT.

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MESOSCALE DISCUSSION 0624

NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK

1224 PM CDT WED APR 27 2011

AREAS AFFECTED...FAR ERN OH...NRN WV...WRN/CNTRL PA...WRN NY

CONCERNING...SEVERE POTENTIAL...WATCH LIKELY

VALID 271724Z - 271900Z

PORTIONS OF FAR ERN OH...NRN WV...WRN/CNTRL PA AND WRN NY WILL LIKELY REQUIRE A WW ISSUANCE DURING THE EARLY AFTERNOON.

MESOANALYSIS AT 17Z SHOWS SURFACE LOW PRESSURE MOVING NWD ACROSS LOWER MI IN ASSOCIATION WITH FAST MOVING UPPER IMPULSE LIFTING INTO THE GRT LKS REGION. VISIBLE SATELLITE IMAGERY SHOWS CLEAR SKIES ACROSS THE AREA...WITH INCREASE IN CUMULUS GROWTH AHEAD OF CONVECTIVE LINE OVER CNTRL OH. SURFACE TEMPERATURES HAVE QUICKLY WARMED THROUGH THE 70S TO LOW 80S...AIDING IN STRONG BOUNDARY LAYER DESTABILIZATION. THOUGH SURFACE DEWPOINTS ARE SOMEWHAT MARGINAL /UPPER 50S F/...RUC FORECAST SOUNDINGS INDICATE MLCAPE VALUES WILL RESIDE AROUND 1000 J/KG BY PEAK HEATING. THIS INSTABILITY WILL BE FAVORABLE FOR SVR STORMS GIVEN VERY STRONG VERTICAL WIND SHEAR PROFILES PRESENT ACROSS THE REGION /0-1 KM SRH IN EXCESS OF 200 M2 S-2...AND EFFECTIVE BULK SHEAR VALUES AROUND 50 KT/. LATEST 3KM HRRR INDICATES THUNDERSTORMS MAY EVOLVE OUT OF THE CONVECTIVE LINE MOVING TOWARD ERN OH BY 19Z...WITH PRE-LINE/WARM SECTOR ACTIVITY ALSO POSSIBLE OVER WRN/CNTRL PA. THE STRONG WIND FIELDS SHOULD SUPPORT THE DEVELOPMENT OF SUPERCELLS AND FAST MOVING LINE SEGMENTS...WHICH WILL POSE A THREAT FOR DAMAGING WIND GUSTS/LARGE HAIL AND A FEW TORNADOES.

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TORNADO WATCH OUTLINE UPDATE FOR WT 236

NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK

310 PM EDT WED APR 27 2011

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TORNADO WATCH 236 IS IN EFFECT UNTIL 1000 PM EDT FOR THE FOLLOWING LOCATIONS

PAC001-003-005-007-009-013-015-019-021-023-027-031-033-035-037- 041-043-047-051-053-055-057-059-061-063-065-067-071-073-075-081- 083-085-087-093-097-099-105-107-109-111-113-117-119-121-123-125- 129-133-280200- /O.NEW.KWNS.TO.A.0236.110427T1910Z-110428T0200Z/

PA .

PENNSYLVANIA COUNTIES INCLUDED ARE

ADAMS ALLEGHENY ARMSTRONG BEAVER BEDFORD BLAIR BRADFORD BUTLER CAMBRIA CAMERON CENTRE CLARION CLEARFIELD CLINTON COLUMBIA CUMBERLAND DAUPHIN ELK FAYETTE FOREST FRANKLIN FULTON GREENE HUNTINGDON INDIANA JEFFERSON JUNIATA LANCASTER LAWRENCE LEBANON LYCOMING MCKEAN MERCER MIFFLIN MONTOUR NORTHUMBERLAND PERRY POTTER SCHUYLKILL SNYDER SOMERSET SULLIVAN TIOGA UNION VENANGO WARREN WASHINGTON WESTMORELAND YORK $

DISCUSSION...SCATTERED THUNDERSTORMS ARE EXPECTED TO DEVELOP SOON OVER WESTERN PA AND SPREAD EAST-NORTHEASTWARD ACROSS THE WATCH AREA DURING THE LATE AFTERNOON AND EVENING. MODERATE INSTABILITY...COUPLED WITH STRONG VERTICAL SHEAR PROFILES WILL PROMOTE ORGANIZED STORMS WITH SUPERCELLS/BOWS POSSIBLE. LARGE HAIL AND DAMAGING WINDS ARE THE MAIN THREAT. HOWEVER...SUFFICIENT LOW LEVEL SHEAR IS PRESENT FOR ISOLATED TORNADOES.

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That was a short lived tornado watch. Looks like they already cancelled it. Severe threat is still there until the front moves through, although with it moving through early in the morning that might diminish the chance with no heating of the day to add to the formula. The showers that just moved through might stabilize things for a while as well. Just cloudy and cooler out now.

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More storms seem to be firing to the east of here toward central PA. I guess that's the area to be in for severe weather. We're just seeing plain old rain showers for the most part.

Let us not get severe weather. After reading through the SE thread, and seeing all the vids out of AL...I want NOTHING to do with that sh!t.

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I agree with what you are saying about the severe stuff.

I don't want any damage.

What I do like however is a good old fashion thunderstorm at night. One where you get a nice steady rain and lightning and thunder.

That's what I thought we were going to have last night.

Let us not get severe weather. After reading through the SE thread, and seeing all the vids out of AL...I want NOTHING to do with that sh!t.

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Let us not get severe weather. After reading through the SE thread, and seeing all the vids out of AL...I want NOTHING to do with that sh!t.

Well, we've had this discussion on here many times before. We all know the risks involved when it comes to mother nature, but it doesn't stop us from being fascinated with it either. It's like in the winter time when we're all hoping to get a big snowstorm, then when it happens, roofs collapse, property can be damaged, and you hear about some 20 car pileup on the highway that took someone's life. You never ever want anyone to be harmed in anyway and yet we still come on here enthusiastically tracking storms because that the weather enthusiast in us. It can be exciting, but also at times dangerous unfortunately. Remember when Rants was coming on here with his roof collapse story (who knows if that even happened) trying to make us all feel guilty for enjoying that storm? I told him in one post that none of us are God. We didn't create that snowstorm from our enthusiasm. We're just fascinated when it occurs. Anyway, my prayers go out to those people in the south. This is the ugly part of our hobby unfortunately.

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Well, we've had this discussion on here many times before. We all know the risks involved when it comes to mother nature, but it doesn't stop us from being fascinated with it either. It's like in the winter time when we're all hoping to get a big snowstorm, then when it happens, roofs collapse, property can be damaged, and you hear about some 20 car pileup on the highway that took someone's life. You never ever want anyone to be harmed in anyway and yet we still come on here enthusiastically tracking storms because that the weather enthusiast in us. It can be exciting, but also at times dangerous unfortunately. Remember when Rants was coming on here with his roof collapse story (who knows if that even happened) trying to make us all feel guilty for enjoying that storm? I told him in one post that none of us are God. We didn't create that snowstorm from our enthusiasm. We're just fascinated when it occurs. Anyway, my prayers go out to those people in the south. This is the ugly part of our hobby unfortunately.

I feel a snowstorm is a bit different. The long term impacts of those are usually limited...I mean, how many people died from Feb 5-6 from things that were out of their control? Most of the time, it was caused by people driving when they should not, or killing themselves somehow with CO2...despite all the worries about collapses, there were very few from what I remember.

Tornadoes, Hurricanes...those leave long term impacts.

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I feel a snowstorm is a bit different. The long term impacts of those are usually limited...I mean, how many people died from Feb 5-6 from things that were out of their control? Most of the time, it was caused by people driving when they should not, or killing themselves somehow with CO2...despite all the worries about collapses, there were very few from what I remember.

Tornadoes, Hurricanes...those leave long term impacts.

I had a few people on Eastern kinda freak on me last summer when I said it's obvious that six months after the blizzards Alexandria, VA is in the same condition as Homestead Florida was six months after Hurricane Andrew.

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I had a few people on Eastern kinda freak on me last summer when I said it's obvious that six months after the blizzards Alexandria, VA is in the same condition as Homestead Florida was six months after Hurricane Andrew.

Lol...you'll get that....snowstorms, while disruptive, are relatively harmless unless you are an idiot.

All one has to do is look at New Orleans to see why we shouldn't "root" for these sorts of things. I mean, I was looking at people in teh Southeast thread yesterday morning hoping for tornadic conditions. sure, I find it interesting, and awe inspiring, but my goodness, I don't want it to happen, and I certainly don't want it to happen in the SE where it is bound to hit something. At least in the midwest there is a good chance it touches nothing other than a corn field.

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I agree with what you are saying about the severe stuff.

I don't want any damage.

What I do like however is a good old fashion thunderstorm at night. One where you get a nice steady rain and lightning and thunder.

That's what I thought we were going to have last night.

That's exactly how I feel. Nobody in their right mind wants damage or life risk, but their is nothing wrong with enjoying, like you put it, "a good old fashioned thunderstorm".

And when I brought up snowstorms earlier, I wasn't trying to compare them to severe weather, just that we have no control over either one and there's nothing wrong with being fascinated with both. I actually don't "root" for anything. If we have a chance of a snowstorm in the winter or thunderstorms in the spring, I look forward to tracking them and talking about them on here with other weather enthusiasts like myself. I just take whatever we get as it comes and discuss it on here, that's all. And if people were actually in those threads hoping for tornadoes then they're nuts. I don't understand why someone would actually want that. Tornadoes are fascinating (sorry if I use fascinating too much lol) to talk about, but noone should actually hope for one to occur.

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URGENT - WEATHER MESSAGE

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE PITTSBURGH PA

404 PM EDT WED MAY 4 2011

OHZ039>041-048>050-057>059-068-069-PAZ020-021-029-031-073-075-

WVZ001>004-012-021-022-050415-

/O.NEW.KPBZ.FR.Y.0001.110505T0700Z-110505T1300Z/

TUSCARAWAS-CARROLL-COLUMBIANA-COSHOCTON-HARRISON-JEFFERSON OH-

MUSKINGUM-GUERNSEY-BELMONT-NOBLE-MONROE-BEAVER-ALLEGHENY-

WASHINGTON-GREENE-WESTMORELAND-FAYETTE-HANCOCK-BROOKE-OHIO-

MARSHALL-WETZEL-MARION-MONONGALIA-

INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...NEW PHILADELPHIA...DOVER...

UHRICHSVILLE...CARROLLTON...EAST LIVERPOOL...SALEM...COLUMBIANA...

EAST PALESTINE...WELLSVILLE...CALCUTTA...COSHOCTON...CADIZ...

HOPEDALE...STEUBENVILLE...ZANESVILLE...CAMBRIDGE...

MARTINS FERRY...ST. CLAIRSVILLE...BELLAIRE...BARNESVILLE...

SHADYSIDE...BRIDGEPORT...CALDWELL...WOODSFIELD...ALIQUIPPA...

BEAVER FALLS...AMBRIDGE...MONACA...BEAVER...

PITTSBURGH METRO AREA...WASHINGTON...CANONSBURG...DONORA...

CALIFORNIA...CHARLEROI...MONONGAHELA...MCMURRAY...WAYNESBURG...

FAIRDALE...GREENSBURG...NEW KENSINGTON...JEANNETTE...LATROBE...

MONESSEN...UNIONTOWN...CONNELLSVILLE...POINT MARION...TORONTO...

WEIRTON...WHEELING...MOUNDSVILLE...NEW MARTINSVILLE...FAIRMONT...

MORGANTOWN

404 PM EDT WED MAY 4 2011

...FROST ADVISORY IN EFFECT FROM 3 AM TO 9 AM EDT THURSDAY...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN PITTSBURGH HAS ISSUED A FROST

ADVISORY...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM 3 AM TO 9 AM EDT THURSDAY.

CLEAR SKIES AND LIGHT WINDS WILL ALLOW AREAS OF FROST TO FORM LATE

TONIGHT.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A FROST ADVISORY MEANS THAT FROST IS POSSIBLE. SENSITIVE OUTDOOR

PLANTS MAY BE KILLED IF LEFT UNCOVERED.

&&

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Something must be wrong. Three days with no rain in the forecast?? :sun:

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ALLEGHENY-

INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...PITTSBURGH METRO AREA

414 AM EDT MON MAY 9 2011

.TODAY...MOSTLY SUNNY. HIGHS IN THE LOWER 70S. NORTHEAST WINDS

AROUND 5 MPH.

.TONIGHT...MOSTLY CLEAR IN THE EVENING...THEN BECOMING PARTLY

CLOUDY. LOWS IN THE MID 40S. EAST WINDS AROUND 5 MPH.

.TUESDAY...MOSTLY SUNNY. HIGHS IN THE UPPER 70S. EAST WINDS

AROUND 5 MPH.

.TUESDAY NIGHT...PARTLY CLOUDY. LOWS IN THE LOWER 50S. EAST WINDS

AROUND 5 MPH.

.WEDNESDAY...MOSTLY SUNNY. HIGHS IN THE UPPER 70S. EAST WINDS

AROUND 5 MPH.

.WEDNESDAY NIGHT...MOSTLY CLOUDY. LOWS IN THE MID 50S.

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Something must be wrong. Three days with no rain in the forecast?? :sun:

I know really, lol.

Honestly though, yesterday was one of the nicest days to do almost anything outdoors ( mabey a bit cool for swimming )

Luckily I had the afternoon off yesterday, and got to play 18 holes. Even though I played poorly at times, the beautiful weather made it a great round.

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