Burghblizz Posted February 22, 2011 Author Share Posted February 22, 2011 Jeff is the man then because he had everyone else beat this morning. Nice forecast by him! Did he go on the air with that in the morning? If he did, that's a great.....and ballsy....call. That's why I'd love to have more of our mets post. I would imagine in a situation like this, they would say that it could be a lot more, but confidence is too low to take in on the air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burghblizz Posted February 22, 2011 Author Share Posted February 22, 2011 Just don't get him confused with Jeff V's 4-5 inch call That would have been reasonable this morning......at 6PM tonight, not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoraopolisWx Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 Looking at the radar history, someone in the ridges will top 12" tonight. However for us in the lower elevations, this storm really gave all it could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChalkHillSnowNut Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 Did he go on the air with that in the morning? If he did, that's a great.....and ballsy....call. That's why I'd love to have more of our mets post. I would imagine in a situation like this, they would say that it could be a lot more, but confidence is too low to take in on the air. I think his on air call I saw from his webcast this mornign called for 3-5 for stuebenville...but he called me from the station and said that for south hills, etc...looked impressive and wouldnt be surprised if we got 6-8"..... I asked him about why local mets always downplay **** and he said that no one really want to bust high OR low but prefer to bust low if there's gonna be a bad bust.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackngoldrules Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 Just went back outside and measured. I have 7.5 inches and it's still snowing moderately. Maybe I can squeeze another half inch out of this before it's over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJHurricane Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 family in Wheeling Wva west of Pittsburgh heard thundersnow about an hour ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burghblizz Posted February 22, 2011 Author Share Posted February 22, 2011 PRELIMINARY LOCAL STORM REPORT...SUMMARY NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE PITTSBURGH PA 1053 PM EST MON FEB 21 2011 ..TIME... ...EVENT... ...CITY LOCATION... ...LAT.LON... ..DATE... ....MAG.... ..COUNTY LOCATION..ST.. ...SOURCE.... ..REMARKS.. 0940 PM SNOW CARROLLTON 40.57N 81.08W 02/21/2011 E6.0 INCH CARROLL OH TRAINED SPOTTER 0951 PM SNOW HEIDELBERG 40.39N 80.09W 02/21/2011 M6.5 INCH ALLEGHENY PA TRAINED SPOTTER 0952 PM SNOW BURGETTSTOWN 40.38N 80.39W 02/21/2011 E8.0 INCH WASHINGTON PA PUBLIC 0952 PM SNOW WELLSVILLE 40.60N 80.66W 02/21/2011 E5.0 INCH COLUMBIANA OH TRAINED SPOTTER 2 INCHES IN LAST HOUR 0958 PM SNOW WELLSVILLE 40.60N 80.66W 02/21/2011 M6.0 INCH COLUMBIANA OH TRAINED SPOTTER 0958 PM SNOW MIDLAND 40.63N 80.45W 02/21/2011 E9.0 INCH BEAVER PA PUBLIC 0959 PM SNOW HARSHAVILLE 40.55N 80.42W 02/21/2011 M7.0 INCH BEAVER PA NWS EMPLOYEE OFF DUTY NWS EMPLOYEE 1000 PM SNOW EAST BRADY 40.99N 79.61W 02/21/2011 E4.0 INCH ARMSTRONG PA PUBLIC 1001 PM SNOW MARS 40.69N 80.01W 02/21/2011 M7.0 INCH BUTLER PA TRAINED SPOTTER 1003 PM SNOW NATRONA HEIGHTS 40.62N 79.73W 02/21/2011 E6.0 INCH ALLEGHENY PA PUBLIC 1003 PM SNOW 4 E GREENSBURG 40.30N 79.46W 02/21/2011 M6.0 INCH WESTMORELAND PA TRAINED SPOTTER 1004 PM SNOW GRINGO 40.56N 80.28W 02/21/2011 M7.8 INCH BEAVER PA NWS EMPLOYEE 1009 PM SNOW DONORA 40.17N 79.86W 02/21/2011 E6.0 INCH WASHINGTON PA PUBLIC 1009 PM SNOW NEW CUMBERLAND 40.50N 80.61W 02/21/2011 E5.0 INCH HANCOCK WV PUBLIC 1035 PM SNOW BETHEL PARK 40.32N 80.04W 02/21/2011 E6.0 INCH ALLEGHENY PA PUBLIC 1038 PM SNOW MCCANDLESS TOWNSHIP 40.58N 80.03W 02/21/2011 M8.0 INCH ALLEGHENY PA NWS EMPLOYEE 1041 PM SNOW NEW BRIGHTON 40.73N 80.31W 02/21/2011 E9.0 INCH BEAVER PA PUBLIC 1050 PM SNOW WASHINGTON 40.17N 80.25W 02/21/2011 E4.5 INCH WASHINGTON PA TRAINED SPOTTER 1052 PM SNOW 1 NNW CARNOT-MOON 40.53N 80.22W 02/21/2011 M7.9 INCH ALLEGHENY PA NWS OFFICE 1053 PM SNOW BUTLER 40.86N 79.90W 02/21/2011 E8.0 INCH BUTLER PA PUBLIC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackngoldrules Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 family in Wheeling Wva west of Pittsburgh heard thundersnow about an hour ago Judging by the radar returns moving through there about an hour or so ago I believe it! It's rare to see orange and red in a snowstorm! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meatwad Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 we also got a new record daily snowfall, the old record was 3" that was set in 1929 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meatwad Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 I noticed more returns building on radar in Northeast Ohio, I wonder if get any backlash action as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackngoldrules Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 I noticed more returns building on radar in Northeast Ohio, I wonder if get any backlash action as well. I was just going to post about that. Maybe we pick up a little extra from that over night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burghblizz Posted February 22, 2011 Author Share Posted February 22, 2011 I think his on air call I saw from his webcast this mornign called for 3-5 for stuebenville...but he called me from the station and said that for south hills, etc...looked impressive and wouldnt be surprised if we got 6-8"..... I asked him about why local mets always downplay **** and he said that no one really want to bust high OR low but prefer to bust low if there's gonna be a bad bust.... I was reading some knuckleheads post on the KDKA site after the last ice storm was an under performer. Of course they were all convinced the media just "hypes" up everything. They were actually mad. If they only see what we see sometimes....lol. But I realized that the public gets angry when a met busts high because they think it's just the media trying to get ratings. When a storm over-performs, they just blame it on crazy weather. It's kind of the opposite of us.....if a met busts low, they catch hell from us. If they give a ballsy call and bust high, then we blame the weather for "screwing us", but love them. At the end of the day, we are only 1% of the population.....if that...and so that is why it's better to bust low in the court of public opinion. That being said, leaving people unprepared just because your confidence level isn't tremendous isn't a great idea. I think mets should go on the air and educate about possiblities, while of course making an official call as to the most likely. I thought this was high bust potential if the forecast would have been 6 to 10" from the jump. So I get it.....but I also would have liked to see forecasts jump to that when it became obvious around 6 PM that we were going in that direction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChalkHillSnowNut Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 I was reading some knuckleheads post on the KDKA site after the last ice storm was an under performer. Of course they were all convinced the media just "hypes" up everything. They were actually mad. If they only see what we see sometimes....lol. But I realized that the public gets angry when a met busts high because they think it's just the media trying to get ratings. When a storm over-performs, they just blame it on crazy weather. It's kind of the opposite of us.....if a met busts low, they catch hell from us. If they give a ballsy call and bust high, then we blame the weather for "screwing us", but love them. At the end of the day, we are only 1% of the population.....if that...and so that is why it's better to bust low in the court of public opinion. That being said, leaving people unprepared just because your confidence level isn't tremendous isn't a great idea. I think mets should go on the air and educate about possiblities, while of course making an official call as to the most likely. I thought this was high bust potential if the forecast would have been 6 to 10" from the jump. So I get it.....but I also would have liked to see forecasts jump to that when it became obvious around 6 PM that we were going in that direction Well said!! Totally agree 100% with all of your comments man!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoraopolisWx Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 Well it was a god storm folks. Great reports from everyone, good job. Looking ahead, there is alot of potential over the next 3 weeks. The key word is potential, because the rain/snow line will be close by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChalkHillSnowNut Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 Absolutely! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
passmaster16 Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 got to bust out the new snowblower for the first time, glad we got something to justify the purchase of my new toy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joecon Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 Nine & one half inches here in McCandless Township. Still snowing lightly--will probably be 10" by morning. Who-Haa!! :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawx1 Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 I have not read all the post. The last time I checked in we were on page 9 lol. I did want to report I got 5.5 inches out of this storm. It was pretty much a suprise to me. I am usually on top of this stuff but I have been very busy with school. I hope to read all your post at some point. The roads here in Neshannock Township have been plowed and salted. I was out for most of the storm and was enjoying a rare evening out with the husband and friends. I enjoyed watching the snow while visiting my friends that live on the Neshannock river. It was beautiful to watch from the inside. Got home safely and hit the hot tub. It is also great to watch the snow and feel it while enjoying the tub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackngoldrules Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 Snowing heavily here again after about an hour and a half break. My last measurement was 7.75". I think this last burst moving through should push me up to 8 or so for the event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burghblizz Posted February 22, 2011 Author Share Posted February 22, 2011 PENNSYLVANIA ...ALLEGHENY COUNTY... 1 NNW CARNOT-MOON 8.4 400 AM 2/22 SCOTT TOWNSHIP 8.0 943 PM 2/21 3 INCHES IN PAST 2 HRS MCCANDLESS TOWNSHIP 8.0 1038 PM 2/21 PITTSBURGH 8.0 211 AM 2/22 WEST HOMESTEAD 7.5 1147 PM 2/21 MCKEES ROCKS 7.0 941 PM 2/21 HEIDELBERG 6.5 951 PM 2/21 BETHEL PARK 6.0 1035 PM 2/21 NATRONA HEIGHTS 6.0 1003 PM 2/21 SEWICKLEY 5.0 815 PM 2/21 MOUNT LEBANON 5.0 1055 PM 2/21 ...ARMSTRONG COUNTY... WORTHINGTON 6.0 1118 PM 2/21 EAST BRADY 4.0 1000 PM 2/21 ...BEAVER COUNTY... NEW BRIGHTON 9.0 1041 PM 2/21 MIDLAND 9.0 958 PM 2/21 GRINGO 7.8 1004 PM 2/21 HARSHAVILLE 7.0 959 PM 2/21 OFF DUTY NWS EMPLOYEE ROCHESTER 5.0 725 PM 2/21 ...BUTLER COUNTY... 1 NW DENNYS MILLS 9.5 151 AM 2/22 MARS 8.0 1112 PM 2/21 BUTLER 8.0 1053 PM 2/21 SAXONBURG 7.0 743 PM 2/21 S ZELIENOPLE 6.0 718 PM 2/21 CRANBERRY TOWNSHIP 3 S ZELIENOPLE 6.0 930 PM 2/21 CRANBERRY TOWNSH ...FOREST COUNTY... MARIENVILLE 9.6 543 AM 2/21 2 N WEST HICKORY 8.0 600 AM 2/21 CO-OP OBSERVER ...INDIANA COUNTY... INDIANA 8.0 1130 PM 2/21 ...JEFFERSON COUNTY... PUNXSUTAWNEY 4.0 628 PM 2/21 ...LAWRENCE COUNTY... WAMPUM 9.0 839 PM 2/21 ELLWOOD CITY 7.0 1255 AM 2/22 1 WNW GRAHMS 5.5 1240 AM 2/22 NEW CASTLE 5.0 721 PM 2/21 ...VENANGO COUNTY... OIL CITY 6.0 655 AM 2/21 1 E COOPERSTOWN 5.2 600 AM 2/21 COCORAHS ...WASHINGTON COUNTY... BURGETTSTOWN 8.0 952 PM 2/21 MCDONALD 7.0 1043 PM 2/21 CANONSBURG 7.0 1100 PM 2/21 DONORA 6.0 1009 PM 2/21 WASHINGTON 5.0 1131 PM 2/21 ...WESTMORELAND COUNTY... LATROBE 9.0 1129 PM 2/21 GREENSBURG 9.0 125 AM 2/22 LIGONIER 8.0 1150 PM 2/21 NEW KENSINGTON 7.0 937 PM 2/21 MONESSEN 6.0 1121 PM 2/21 4 E GREENSBURG 6.0 1003 PM 2/21 WEST NEWTON 3.5 815 PM 2/21 IN LAST 2 HOURS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burghblizz Posted February 22, 2011 Author Share Posted February 22, 2011 D Ivory had a 13.5" report on the screen from somewhere in south hills or Wash county area. He also said there was a report of 20" (I didn't catch where), but by his tone he didn't buy it. He was like "sometimes these totals vary a lot, but I don't know". Definitely not buying the 20".....but I can see someone having cracked a foot south where a combination of heavy precip and no mixing occurred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jen16226 Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 Good morning....... That definately came in earlier than expected huh? Glad the temps stayed down and WPA had it this time! Just measured 7" IMBY here in Armstrong County. Who is it that lives in New Ken on here? Trying to figure out if I should venture down to work...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackngoldrules Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 D Ivory had a 13.5" report on the screen from somewhere in south hills or Wash county area.He also said there was a report of 20" (I didn't catch where), but by his tone he didn't buy it. He was like "sometimes these totals vary a lot, but I don't know". Definitely not buying the 20".....but I can see someone having cracked a foot south where a combination of heavy precip and no mixing occurred. Maybe our old buddy northpitt sent in that 20" report! I measured 8 inches before I left for work this morning. I kind of wish I left later because some of the roads I had to take this morning were still really bad. Some were also just wet so it's pretty deceiving out there right now. I was on 88 and it was mostly wet. Later I was on Lebanon Church and people were getting stuck and having problems on that road. One guy going up Curry Hollow decided in the middle of the road that he couldn't make it up the hill so he actually backed down the hill toward all of us that were going up the hill behind him. I saw some other people getting stuck on some on and off ramps too. People getting out of their cars trying to push them through. Interesting morning to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwilson Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 Congrats to you all to the north (which I think is everyone haha). The forecast actually busted down here. I don't think it ever turned over to exclusively snow as I heard ice mixing in for the duration. The snow we did get was not the kind seen to the north; it was smaller and lighter flakes. We ended up with about 1.5" of a mixed bag, under the 3-6" call. I think the precip just moved too fast, so by the time the snow line dropped south, all the precip was gone. Without any sort of dominating cold-air presence, at this point in the winter, the conditions down here won't favor snow. Unless the cold air comes in first and the snow comes up from the south (overrunning). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paweatherguy1 Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 Ended with probably about 7.5 inches...commute this morning wasn't bad, however, more abandoned cars than I have ever seen. Honestly, I blame that on the NWS and locals...there was no reason that there could not have been a WWA issued at 4 AM yesterday morning for snow. 2-4 at that time was more than reasonable, and if you put up that 2-4 and say it might start snowing around 5 or 6, people might leave early and so forth. I did have to laugh at the guy from Penndot on my way home last night around 6 saying mains were wet. At the Bellevue West View exit of 279 people could not make over the bridge and had to come back down the wrong side....the interstates weren't any better. However, there really was very little Penndot could have done with rates what they were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RitualOfTheTrout Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 Good morning....... That definately came in earlier than expected huh? Glad the temps stayed down and WPA had it this time! Just measured 7" IMBY here in Armstrong County. Who is it that lives in New Ken on here? Trying to figure out if I should venture down to work...... Roads in NK seem pretty decent. At least the main roads are. Tarentum bridge road is clear for all 4 lanes etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meatwad Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 I ended up with 9" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meatwad Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 000 SXUS71 KPBZ 220627 RERPIT RECORD EVENT REPORT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE PITTSBURGH PA 0121 AM EST TUE FEB 22 2011 ...RECORD DAILY MAXIMUM SNOWFALL SET AT PITTSBURGH PA... A DAILY RECORD SNOWFALL OF 7.9 INCHES WAS SET AT PITTSBURGH PA YESTERDAY...FEBRUARY 21. THIS BREAKS THE OLD RECORD OF 3.0 INCHES SET IN 1929. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherman5416 Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 I know it may be early, but check out the storm coming Thursday night, into Friday. Looks like the 12Z NAM has come into agreement with the GFS. They both have a storm come just south of the mason dixon line. Here is the QPF from the NAM. (looks to me to be all snow) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
north pgh Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 I ended up with 8 inches here. Like I posted earlier yesterday, I may have to put the detour snow sign up every February. So far it is 2 for 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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