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Houston Area (+ AUS, SAT and MMMY) Snow Miracle Thread


Ed Lizard

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Sadly, the NAM forecast sounding for 12Z at CRP is actually wetter than the actual sounding. CRP is almost saturated to surface, however.

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Hopefully it doesn't effect what the NAM is predicting, which would be pretty disappointing to begin with.

Dr. Jeff sticking to his guns, and he is a trained expert, so I'm not giving up hope of a Jebwalk tonight.

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I am in Galveston, Texas and currently there is no precipitation. The schools here just announced closing today at 2pm and will be closed tomorrow. I am hoping that the powers that be let us off work before it gets bad and that those of us from the mainland can make it home safe.

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You old IP.:P Congrats, Jorge. Hopefully I'll have some pics tomorrow.

Nice snow burst in Chipinque National Park (15 mins from here) @ 3000ft... Moderate snow falling...I just need surface to saturate enough to reach the valley. Downtown reporting their first flakes :thumbsup:

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Ciudad Juarez mayor Hector Murgia said the temperatures of around minus 13 degrees centigrade (8.6 Fahrenheit) were the lowest recorded in almost 50 years.

Part of the Yahoo story about Mexico sending electricity our way to minimize the rolling blackouts.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20110202/ts_alt_afp/mexicousweatherstorm_20110202234748

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I am ever more nervous about a flurries/dusting type bust.

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE HOUSTON/GALVESTON TX

1031 AM CST THU FEB 3 2011

.DISCUSSION...

ACARS SOUNDINGS FOR KIAH/KHOU SUGGEST SNOW OR SLEET AS THE PRECIP

TYPE FOR THE HOUSTON AREA WITH A COUPLE OF SMALL WARM LAYERS

SHOWING UP. WE ALSO RECEIVED A RAOB FOR CLL WHICH SHOWS THE

ENTIRE PROFILE BELOW -4C CLEARLY SHOWING SNOW AS THE TYPE.

HOWEVER...SOUNDINGS SHOW A LOT OF DRY AIR THROUGH THE ATMOSPHERE.

LATEST MODEL GUIDANCE SUGGESTS THAT IT WILL TAKE A LONG TIME FOR

SATURATION TO OCCUR...WITH VERY LITTLE PRECIP REACHING THE GROUND

TODAY AND ONLY LIGHT PRECIP THIS EVENING. CURRENT THINKING IS THAT

THE ACCUMULATIONS CURRENTLY FORECAST LOOK GOOD AND COULD BE A BIT

GENEROUS. HOWEVER...THE ONE THING DIFFERENTIATING THIS EVENT

COMPARED TO THE LAST FEW IS THAT TEMPERATURES WILL BE MUCH LOWER

AND ELEVATED ROADWAYS ARE ALREADY BELOW FREEZING. EVEN IF ONLY

SMALL ACCUMULATIONS OCCUR...THE ROADS ARE VERY LIKELY TO BECOME

ICY AND HAZARDOUS ESPECIALLY LATE TONIGHT/FRIDAY MORNING. WILL

KEEP THE WARNING IN TACT. FOR FIRST PERIOD...HAVE KEPT POPS ON THE

LOW SIDE AND ALSO RAISED MAX TEMPS SLIGHTLY BASED ON CURRENT

TRENDS.

35/41/33/46/DH

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Many of the Houston schools are letting out early now... Noon-ish. Many also already canceled for tomorrow already.

With one notable exception being the Houston ISD... so far anyway.

I'd think even in Houston, as long as there was no freezing precip, less than an inch over a 12 hour period really wouldn't zoo up traffic that badly.

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I'd think even in Houston, as long as there was no freezing precip, less than an inch over a 12 hour period really wouldn't zoo up traffic that badly.

I would disagree there... we have no good ways to get the snow (or ice) off the roads. And this is cold enough to keep things frozen nicely... so I actually think even a little could be quite a mess. Plus, folks here have NO clue how to drive on any kind of frozen precip... it could be a mess.

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Earlier disco from BRO -

934 AM CST THU FEB 3 2011

.UPDATE...STARTING TO GET A FEW REPORTS OF VERY LIGHT PRECIP

FREEZING TO VEHICLES AND EXPOSED METAL SURFACES. TEMP AT KBRO HAS

DROPPED 2 DEGREES IN THE PAST HOUR...WITH /UP/ BEING REPORTED AT

KBRO AND KHRL IN THE PAST HOUR. TEMPS WILL HOVER AT OR JUST BELOW

FREEZING WITH -ZR/-IP CONTINUING. AS MOISTURE JUST OFF THE SFC

CONTINUES TO SLOWLY MOVE INLAND...PRECIP WILL BEGIN FOR AREAS WEST

OF US 77. MAIN CONCERN IS THE WARM POCKET ALOFT...HOW FAR INLAND

THE WARM POCKET MOVES...AND HOW THICK IS THE SUBFREEZING SFC

LAYER. MODELS STILL INDICATE THE ROUGH TRANSITION LINE WILL BE THE

KENEDY/BROOKS BORDER SOUTH TO AROUND WESLACO. AREAS WEST OF THERE

WILL SEE MAINLY SNOW...-IP EAST OF THAT LINE TO US 77...AND -ZR

EAST OF US 77 TO THE COAST. CONDITIONS WILL CHANGE LITTLE

OVERNIGHT AS TEMPERATURES CHANGE VERY LITTLE IN THE UPPER 20S.

BEST DYNAMICS ALOFT MOVE IN OVERNIGHT...GIVING INCREASED PRECIP

INTENSITY. TOTAL ACCUMULATION OF UNDER 1/2 INCH EXPECTED...WITH

ICE ACCUMULATION UNDER 1/4 INCH. AREAS IN BROOKS AND NORTHERN

HIDALGO COUNTIES MAY SEE ENOUGH SNOW FOR A TOTAL OF AN INCH

ACCUMULATION. AS THE SYSTEM DEPARTS TOMORROW MORNING...PRECIP WILL

END MID MORNING.

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Seeing Winter Storm Warnings all the way to TX/MX border is nothing short of impressive.

I second sarwx's assessment, like many locations in the Deep South and along the coast, there's simply just not enough snow/ice removal crews as it is just so rare to have winter weather events, that even a slight amount of ice just generally causes massive problems. Unlike a slew of previous winter weather events to occur in that region with cold air being on the marginal cusp, this one, the cold air in place is clearly not going to be an issue and much colder. Accumulations that do occur will last a bit longer than the normal event which is probably will not be gone by the next day situation.

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Cool :guitar: How rare is that for those parts?

Dec 2004 something similar...Dec 1997 had some slight accumulations...and some events like those, almost with little to no accumulation (other than Jan 1967 and Feb 1894 which were huge)...Yesterday was my first <32F day of the season (talking about lows, not averages)... today is just the second event that had some precipitation involved to put it in perspective.

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I would disagree there... we have no good ways to get the snow (or ice) off the roads. And this is cold enough to keep things frozen nicely... so I actually think even a little could be quite a mess. Plus, folks here have NO clue how to drive on any kind of frozen precip... it could be a mess.

I'd be ok, I was stationed in Upstate New York Winter 84-85, and drove in snow. I doubt an inch over 12 hours would even stay on the pavement.

Its the other people I'd worry about.

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Euro verbatim is dismal around Houston, at/under a tenth liquid, but gets better going North towards CXO, CLL and JAS (JAS would have some p-type issues, verbatim), such that a small shift in the Euro solution, maybe a meso band a little further Soouth than projected, could still bring joy and happiness to Houston metro.

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