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Epic winter signal continues to beam, part VI


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I still think it's a real difficult call, although we may be haded in the direction of some pretty bad icing...perhaps in the 0.30 to 0.40'' range...right now it seems like a lock that at least interior SW CT (where the Ice storm warnings are) and across central CT just south of HFD stand a decent chance...however, this threat could certainly include Hartford and even some locations further north...going to be a nowcast thing perhaps.

I never thought I'd hope for sleet. Sorry Rev.

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Ok....question for you NNE peeps....this isn't an issue I have ever dealt with before, but am about to.....what do you do when snow depth begins to impinge on the radiation shield of your Davis.....is there a need to clear it away or no....

My depth is about 31"....9" short of history.

Like I told you yesterday, Saturday is your history making day, you bang 8 tomorrow, compaction you go into Sat only needing 4, doable.

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The depth of the colder air is better here, but we'll have to watch the warm layer at 800mb. That always screws with people.

right...from what I've read...if the snow completely melts into water in the warm layer...it's extremely difficult to refreeze in the cold layer even given a substantial depth. When it partially melts because the warm layer is marginal...it's much easier to freeze into sleet even in a shallow cold layer.

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Yeah I saw that, mid-levels are warmer over there than modeled and forecast.

Yup, really expecting the same across SNE tomorrow. No way 850 line gets so far north without a huge wedge of warm air through a wide layer. Plus models now even has the surface warming quite a bit tomorrow, likely going above freezing up to PVD, with every layer above that up to 700mb above freezing. That's a lot of warm air.

With an inch QPF, "maybe" 0.20-0.30" being snow, that's going to have to be a lot of precip as sleet for there not to be icing problems.

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Yup, really expecting the same across SNE tomorrow. No way 850 line gets so far north without a huge wedge of warm air through a wide layer. Plus models now even has the surface warming quite a bit tomorrow, likely going above freezing up to PVD, with every layer above that up to 700mb above freezing. That's a lot of warm air.

With an inch QPF, "maybe" 0.20-0.30" being snow, that's going to have to be a lot of precip as sleet for there not to be icing problems.

Isnt it like 3am in London? lol

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right...from what I've read...if the snow completely melts into water in the warm layer...it's extremely difficult to refreeze in the cold layer even given a substantial depth. When it partially melts because the warm layer is marginal...it's much easier to freeze into sleet even in a shallow cold layer.

Right. That's what is noticeable. It looks pretty warm in a number of layers as the morning progressing, basically 700mb and below. And not even really marginal (close to 0c), like 1-4C depending on the layer pushing inland.

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What (to date) has been your most epic winter here in NE? You pick the criteria...

Sadly no skiing tonight. Too much schoolwork...

I guess 95-96" but I spend a lot of time in NNE so there are seasons that weren't as good here as there. 2000-01 was 107" here but much more North (I think), 2002-03 was 114" here but better North (I think). To be honest, I love every Winter. If the snow isn't good I just leave for snowier places but most New England Winters provide fun and excitement.

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Like I told you yesterday, Saturday is your history making day, you bang 8 tomorrow, compaction you go into Sat only needing 4, doable.

Not too far from Ray, maybe 8-10 miles northwest. I'm at 30" now and hoping for 8-10 tomorrow. Think it's within reason, but also think Saturday will be my day too.

Anyone know if UML keeps snowfall depth tallies for Lowell?

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That's what I figured. I wonder if Wilmington was any different in Feb '69. Probably not much at all. If anything, maybe a bit less than Reading.

Right.

Man, this is awsome...I feel like I'm at a ski resort.....just ventured out to the yard stick by the Davis and it reads 30.5".....did a snow angel, walked arund the block and headed in......heaven.

There are some shaded spots near 3'.

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right...from what I've read...if the snow completely melts into water in the warm layer...it's extremely difficult to refreeze in the cold layer even given a substantial depth. When it partially melts because the warm layer is marginal...it's much easier to freeze into sleet even in a shallow cold layer.

Dude, you're freaking me out.

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I will ice big time, hoping not to lose power for many reasons, but I really cant wait to see this monster be carved up like a cane tracking over hispanolia, its going to go through the NE shredder, just get obliterated.

Enjoy the snow up north, pray for us down south.

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Light freezing rain at Cleveland Hopkins also. There must be some really warm temperature at 800mb over there. The SPC mesoscale analysis has 850mb temperatures above 0C there.

Ok I'm going to duck after posting this but honest truth...THAT HAPPENED IN JAN 1994! We know the verification for eastern NE. I almost feel like blizzard24 ...2 snows good, 4 rains bad......but it's true...this one will impress further south than you think!

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