JamieOber Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 LOL...the models are bipolar...as a psych/education major I'm trying to diagnose them the best I can. I graduated with a psych minor.....I think the models need their own DSM. That's a great double major. 16.7 currently here....it's going to be interesting here tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawatch Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 I graduated with a psych minor.....I think the models need their own DSM. That's a great double major. 16.7 currently here....it's going to be interesting here tomorrow. 21.2 here DP 17.6 I can't believe the models are showing that high of temps tomorrow. They wouldn't mislead us would they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santa Clause Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 I graduated with a psych minor.....I think the models need their own DSM. That's a great double major. 16.7 currently here....it's going to be interesting here tomorrow. Awesome Jamie...where'd you go to school? LOL...i think so too! On to weather, you guys could have a surprise tomorrow...just whether it's freezing or frozen will be the question! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSTWX Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 21.2 here DP 17.6 I can't believe the models are showing that high of temps tomorrow. They wouldn't mislead us would they? It'll warm up. JST is sitting at 28 with a south wind, but downtown Johnstown is 21. The cold air will stay trapped in the valleys for only so long tomorrow without any high to our north. FZRA to RA tomorrow, then some snow west of I-99 tomorrow evening. Monday/Monday night looks a little more intriguing now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Won't a storm Monday/early Tuesday hurt our chances for the Thursday Special? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSTWX Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Won't a storm Monday/early Tuesday hurt our chances for the Thursday Special? If it cranks up enough, it should aid in forming some blocking to our north/northeast. I really don't know how it will affect our storm chances just yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NortheastPAWx Posted February 5, 2011 Author Share Posted February 5, 2011 Won't a storm Monday/early Tuesday hurt our chances for the Thursday Special? Quite the contrary, it should help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSTWX Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 It's evident what's going on with the gfs right now, when compared to the Euro and GEM. The energy over the carolinas and arkansas are separated and disjointed. What is more likely to me (as depicted by our friend the euro) is a max in Northern Bama or MS, pulling a stronger low up the coast. I guess time will tell which one is right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2001kx Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 current snow depth (not too shabby overall if correct) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santa Clause Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Down to 17.6 here...guess it won't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick G Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Down to 17.6 here...guess it won't matter. just started snowing here in Wilkes-Barre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Festus Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Woke up to see flashing lights out on a fairly major road in the distance. Accident. Temp is 31 with freezing drizzle at the moment. Local news says local roads are nasty and highway speed limit is 45. Don't want to sound like a broken record but why no Freezing Rain Advisory? Just the plain vanilla WWA which doesn't capture the threat. Looks like local PennDOT and municipalities got caught again. With a little pretreatment, this would be a non-event on the roads. Guess the poor sap who is in a ditch right now 1/4 mile from me probably would have appreciated that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Woke up to see flashing lights out on a fairly major road in the distance. Accident. Temp is 31 with freezing drizzle at the moment. Local news says local roads are nasty and highway speed limit is 45. Don't want to sound like a broken record but why no Freezing Rain Advisory? Just the plain vanilla WWA which doesn't capture the threat. Looks like local PennDOT and municipalities got caught again. With a little pretreatment, this would be a non-event on the roads. Guess the poor sap who is in a ditch right now 1/4 mile from me probably would have appreciated that too. Probably should have issued one for the southern counties. I don't know if it's a WWA issue. The local people should not have been caught flat footed here, this was forecasted. Plus, a WWA should let them know they need to get out and do something. It reminds me of when people here will ask if roads will be bad or schools cancelled; I tell them forecasting weather is hard enough without trying to predict what local authorities will do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scummyratguy Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Its def icier here today on sidewalk and patio than the last storm! Slower precip rate helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveman Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 <br />Woke up to see flashing lights out on a fairly major road in the distance. Accident.<br /><br />Temp is 31 with freezing drizzle at the moment.<br /><br />Local news says local roads are nasty and highway speed limit is 45.<br /><br />Don't want to sound like a broken record but why no Freezing Rain Advisory? Just the plain vanilla WWA which doesn't capture the threat. Looks like local PennDOT and municipalities got caught again. With a little pretreatment, this would be a non-event on the roads. Guess the poor sap who is in a ditch right now 1/4 mile from me probably would have appreciated that too.<br /><br /><br /><br />I wholeheartedly agree! If this precip keeps up at this rate (slow), I will attain ice storm criteria of 0.25" on untreated surfaces. My immediate area is worse than it was Wed. morning. I also believe the local news (8) is not doing this weather event justice. Stay off the roads until salt/sun do its dirty work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Festus Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Yeah, it's bad... http://articles.lancasteronline.com/local/4/348074 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerplunk Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Wow, sounds pretty bad around Lancaster...and nothing here this morning - maybe a few snow pellets very early, but that's it. This is an uneducated guess, but it appears UNV is going to get pretty much dry-slotted by this whole event with maybe just a late kiss by the deformation - at least judging by the radar this morning. Which would be fine by me instead of the mess that's being predicted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hckyplayer8 Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Roads are worse now than during the Tues-Wed event. Solid ice and you can't even see it coming. PennDOT has the chains on trying to break up the ice on the major routes which gives you a small foot space for your tires but outside of that or being directly in the city of Lebanon and Palmyra....watch out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
717WeatherLover Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 The back roads in the burbs to the east of Harrisburg are a MESS!!!! Police/fire police were directing traffic away from the more major road where there was a major accident. Within a block the other way there was a car off the road in a ditch and two into poles. Farther down there were 4 cars that just slid off the road. At that point I decided that my son was not going to musical practice at the High School and turned around. Turned out we were somehow left off of the email list telling us that it was canceled. I can't believe I'm saying this....I hope it warms up some this afternoon. I really need to get the ice off of my sloped driveway before I kill myself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scummyratguy Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 yikes!! York is now up to ~ 34/35 on the fuddometer so I think we're out of the woods, but another hour of sub-freezing and we would have been at the level you guys are to the NE!! It was starting to get downright dangerous here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 We have dinner reservations at Confit in Camp Hill at 630 - hope we flip to rain here in Harrisburg soon. The roads by my house aren't terrible, buy sidewalks are identical to Wed morning. CTP still says less than .1" ice here, rain has to go plain quickly for that to happen (if not already busted low). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
north pgh Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 I don't think you guys have to worry too much longer. The showers are broken up down here and Pit is up to 35 and warm air is pushing up fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexP Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 I've been postponing my weekly walk to the Broad Street Market until temps went above freezing. Woke up to a sheet of ice on the sidewalks. Harrisburg area peeps - is it getting better out there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawatch Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 28 degrees here. Roads are icy terrible. All kinds of accidents. Major crash on 80 somewhere. Rt 220 shut down Hughesville Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 I've been postponing my weekly walk to the Broad Street Market until temps went above freezing. Woke up to a sheet of ice on the sidewalks. Harrisburg area peeps - is it getting better out there? I live a few blocks away (on Calitol Heights); roads tend to be not-awful but sidewalks are trouble most places. If you have snow boots that should give you enough traction. Bring me a fish taco from the market, please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NortheastPAWx Posted February 5, 2011 Author Share Posted February 5, 2011 I'm in the W-B....it's 29.7*F but the rain isn't freezing to anything. Must be a very shallow warm layer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexP Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 I live a few blocks away (on Calitol Heights); roads tend to be not-awful but sidewalks are trouble most places. If you have snow boots that should give you enough traction. Bring me a fish taco from the market, please? funny, I was just thinking about fish tacos. I'm taking your advice and going out with my boots on. Tired of sitting around the house watching the thermometer. The cold air has held on here a lot longer than I expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Here, this event went from ho hum to holy ****. I mean, the scanner is lit up. These are the major incidents: TRAFFIC ADVISORY 02/05/11 10:48(HARRIS TOWNSHIP - ) POLICE DEPARTMENT ON SCENE MULTI VEHICLE MOTOR VEHICLE ACCIDENT, NO INJURIES, POOR ROAD CONDITIONS IN AREA DUE TO ICE, USE CAUTION IN AREA [PEN102]MAJOR ACCIDENT 02/05/11 10:34(POTTER TOWNSHIP - FG 3) UPDATE: MOTOR VEHICLE ACCIDENT WITH DUAL ENTRAPMENT, HELICOPTER UNAVAILABLE DUE TO WEATHER, ADDL RESCUE NOW ON SCENE [PEN102]MAJOR ACCIDENT 02/05/11 10:20(POTTER TOWNSHIP - FG 3) FIRE DEPARTMENT ON SCENE MOTOR VEHICLE ACCIDENT WITH DUAL ENTRAPMENT, 1 PATIENT UNRESPONSIVE, CHECKING STATUS OF HELICOPTER, RD CLOSED AT THIS TIME [PEN102] But there are way way more. Constant reports on Centre County scanner, some others reporting injuries. link: http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?ctid=2254 Our temp dropped from 26.2 here but dropped to 24.5 when a freezing rain shower moved through, now back up to 26.1 and freezing drizzle. This is as bad of an impact that we had all year with little qpf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santa Clause Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Wow...we have wrecks everywhere....like Jamie said this may be the most I've heard of this year. Very scary stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2001kx Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Here, this event went from ho hum to holy ****. I mean, the scanner is lit up. These are the major incidents: TRAFFIC ADVISORY 02/05/11 10:48(HARRIS TOWNSHIP - ) POLICE DEPARTMENT ON SCENE MULTI VEHICLE MOTOR VEHICLE ACCIDENT, NO INJURIES, POOR ROAD CONDITIONS IN AREA DUE TO ICE, USE CAUTION IN AREA [PEN102]MAJOR ACCIDENT 02/05/11 10:34(POTTER TOWNSHIP - FG 3) UPDATE: MOTOR VEHICLE ACCIDENT WITH DUAL ENTRAPMENT, HELICOPTER UNAVAILABLE DUE TO WEATHER, ADDL RESCUE NOW ON SCENE [PEN102]MAJOR ACCIDENT 02/05/11 10:20(POTTER TOWNSHIP - FG 3) FIRE DEPARTMENT ON SCENE MOTOR VEHICLE ACCIDENT WITH DUAL ENTRAPMENT, 1 PATIENT UNRESPONSIVE, CHECKING STATUS OF HELICOPTER, RD CLOSED AT THIS TIME [PEN102] But there are way way more. Constant reports on Centre County scanner, some others reporting injuries. link: http://www.radiorefe...udio/?ctid=2254 Our temp dropped from 26.2 here but dropped to 24.5 when a freezing rain shower moved through, now back up to 26.1 and freezing drizzle. This is as bad of an impact that we had all year with little qpf. how do you hear anything on there. i have everything cranked up and still can barely hear it? edit: the one i was hearing must have been a bad feed...i can hear the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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