Itstrainingtime Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Say what? 70MPH winds and 20"+ is weak? You do realize that there are entire cities, and rather large ones at that, that are completely shut down right now? Here is the AFD from NWS Chicago last night...imagine if CTP issued this? Definitely not "weak" in my books... ITS NOT A FIT NIGHT OUT FOR MAN NOR BEAST. BLIZZARD OF 2011 UNDERWAY WITH TREACHEROUS CONDITIONS REPORTED ACROSS THE WFO CHICAGO FORECAST AREA. VISIBILITIES LESS THAN 1/4SM...WIND GUSTS IN EXCESS OF 50 MPH...THUNDER/LIGHTNING IN HEAVY SNOW...SNOWFALL RATES IN EXCESS OF AN INCH PER HOUR HAVE ALL BEEN REPORTED FROM VARIOUS LOCATIONS. REGARDLESS OF HOW MUCH SNOW EVENTUALLY ACCUMULATES...THIS IS A DANGEROUS AND POTENTIALLY LIFE THREATENING STORM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawatch Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 He should come here to NEPA where we have about half of our seasonal norm so far. Or maybe even IPT. Yeah but I have been cleaning snow up. About 3 times a week lately. I spent 4 hours today on cleanup. "Nasty heavy stuff" It's all adding up. But it would be nice to see over a 6" snowfall. 19.8" total snowfall so far this season. Up to 37 degrees pavement ice is melting nicely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 38 here now. Still waiting on that cold front. Mush have really slowed once it hit Johnstown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Say what? 70MPH winds and 20"+ is weak? You do realize that there are entire cities, and rather large ones at that, that are completely shut down right now? Looks like they had what we did around NYC on 12/26. That was one of the most ferocious wind/snow combination storms I've ever seen, and I wasn't even in the worst of it. E NJ had up to 10" more than I did, but my house shook from the 60+ mph wind, power was out for many of us, and my road was impassable for 2 days (many were for up to a week). The railroads were shut for 2 days, and NYC was effectively paralyzed. This has to be a top 3 storm in Chicago. Funny thing is Bostonians complained about the 12/26 storm because the storm matured over us and began to occlude over them, making the snow more showery and making very high amounts more intermittent up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Man the temp is sky rocketing now up to 41. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzard92 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Still only 34.2F here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Still only 34.2F here... Not for long. lol 44 now. Front is passing now. Winds picking up. Gusting to 30 so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 46 now, and winds really gusting. 40mph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 I think he's upset because they have been adding it up in the nickel and dime variety, and just want a big storm. Still, doesn't come across as too brilliant. They have had a few moderate events. He seems like a good guy but man, 36 inches on Feb 2 doesn't suck unless you are in upstate NY. That makes me think of something, Maytown, I have noticed - lots of people on American set a high bar for winter to meet 90 percent of the time it will never meet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawatch Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Are we suppose to get any snow later today? Radar is showing some decent precipitation. http://radar.weather...s/full_loop.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sauss06 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 46 now, and winds really gusting. 40mph. i think we still have enough ice, that we get gusts of 40, this area will experience more power outages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Yuck. I'm starting to see melting from the tree next to my house and I'm hearing icicles falling and cracking, so hopefully that process will be done before the winds kick up. My girlfriend got called into work and is reporting trees down all over Camp Hill with little to no traffic. The more I think about CAD and how vulnerable we are to it in this area, it surprises me that we haven't really had a lot of devastating ice storms around here. I've only spent about 10 winters in Harrisburg, but this is the worst one I've seen so far. Maybe it's because most of the ones I've experienced around here have occurred with temps barely below freezing, so things have typically thawed out fairly quicly following the precip. Is there a record of central PA's worst ice storms anywhere? Good afternoon! You should have been there in the '90s! I grew up in Lancaster and we had many ice storms during the 90s. The winter of 93-94 was especially bad...It was one snow and ice storm after another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Hit 46 for a high, temp falling now as front is passing. Getting winds gusting over 45mph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PennMan Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Back below freezing here in State College. Still a lot of water around...should be a bit icy this evening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itstrainingtime Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 They have had a few moderate events. He seems like a good guy but man, 36 inches on Feb 2 doesn't suck unless you are in upstate NY. That makes me think of something, Maytown, I have noticed - lots of people on American set a high bar for winter to meet 90 percent of the time it will never meet. You know what, I've been holding this in apparently for too long now. So many of the younger posters are spoiled beyond rotten over what's happened the past couple of winters. When you and I were young, we got pretty ramped for 3-6, 4-8 type events. Young folks don't anymore. 2, 3, 4, 5 storms in the past 14 months that have repeatedly dropped a foot plus each time has raised the bar with these guys to WAY beyond what is "normal." Heck, in Lancaster, we average one 12"snow per decade. Last winter we had 3 in about a month and a half. I simply cannot fathom the amount of griping going on this winter. It makes me sick. I can't even go in the mid atlantic thread...they got from 70" to 100" last winter, are near their average this winter for this time of year, throw in La Nina, and they should be tickled pink they've gotten any snow. Sure, they've missed out while NY, Philly, and Boston have been wamboozled, but for the love of God, what do they expect? They don't live in NE, they live in an area that historically gets 20" or less per year. I could go on and on but I better stop... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sauss06 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 You know what, I've been holding this in apparently for too long now. So many of the younger posters are spoiled beyond rotten over what's happened the past couple of winters. When you and I were young, we got pretty ramped for 3-6, 4-8 type events. Young folks don't anymore. 2, 3, 4, 5 storms in the past 14 months that have repeatedly dropped a foot plus each time has raised the bar with these guys to WAY beyond what is "normal." Heck, in Lancaster, we average one 12"snow per decade. Last winter we had 3 in about a month and a half. I simply cannot fathom the amount of griping going on this winter. It makes me sick. I can't even go in the mid atlantic thread...they got from 70" to 100" last winter, are near their average this winter for this time of year, throw in La Nina, and they should be tickled pink they've gotten any snow. Sure, they've missed out while NY, Philly, and Boston have been wamboozled, but for the love of God, what do they expect? They don't live in NE, they live in an area that historically gets 20" or less per year. I could go on and on but I better stop... +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hckyplayer8 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Sitting at 35F. Clear improvement as ice has readily melted off the trees/lines/roads. Blue Mountain is engulfed in a thick fog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itstrainingtime Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Sun shining brightly with blue skies here now, but don't have access to the temp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzard92 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 36.2F here with cloudy skies. Temperature falling again after reaching 36.4F. Thick ice still on much of Blue Mountain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Sun peeking out of clouds at the moment in Harrisburg, hope it melts a good bit of ice off tree limbs. 37.2 degrees, but still light winds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Festus Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 You know what, I've been holding this in apparently for too long now. So many of the younger posters are spoiled beyond rotten over what's happened the past couple of winters. When you and I were young, we got pretty ramped for 3-6, 4-8 type events. Young folks don't anymore. 2, 3, 4, 5 storms in the past 14 months that have repeatedly dropped a foot plus each time has raised the bar with these guys to WAY beyond what is "normal." Heck, in Lancaster, we average one 12"snow per decade. Last winter we had 3 in about a month and a half. I simply cannot fathom the amount of griping going on this winter. It makes me sick. I can't even go in the mid atlantic thread...they got from 70" to 100" last winter, are near their average this winter for this time of year, throw in La Nina, and they should be tickled pink they've gotten any snow. Sure, they've missed out while NY, Philly, and Boston have been wamboozled, but for the love of God, what do they expect? They don't live in NE, they live in an area that historically gets 20" or less per year. I could go on and on but I better stop... Yikes! Stack Blow Advisory issued. You point is correct though. It's freakin' WEATHER, "the state of the atmosphere" created by the zillion variables that comprise our little corner of the universe. It's not like it owes anyone anything. It is what it is created by forces beyond our control. If folks get pissed because it doesn't do want they want, well, good luck with that. You're going to need it. Conditions at Maytownpawx at 3:11PM 2/2/11 - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawatch Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 You know what, I've been holding this in apparently for too long now. So many of the younger posters are spoiled beyond rotten over what's happened the past couple of winters. When you and I were young, we got pretty ramped for 3-6, 4-8 type events. Young folks don't anymore. 2, 3, 4, 5 storms in the past 14 months that have repeatedly dropped a foot plus each time has raised the bar with these guys to WAY beyond what is "normal." Heck, in Lancaster, we average one 12"snow per decade. Last winter we had 3 in about a month and a half. I simply cannot fathom the amount of griping going on this winter. It makes me sick. I can't even go in the mid Atlantic thread...they got from 70" to 100" last winter, are near their average this winter for this time of year, throw in La Nina, and they should be tickled pink they've gotten any snow. Sure, they've missed out while NY, Philly, and Boston have been wamboozled, but for the love of God, what do they expect? They don't live in NE, they live in an area that historically gets 20" or less per year. I could go on and on but I better stop... I agree with you. Previous seasons have some spoiled. Plus coupled with all the hours watching these storms flip flop on the model runs only to fizzle. Leads to disappointment also. Myself I have enjoyed these smaller storms. Kind of reminds me of the 2002 season. Today clearing the heavy wet snow was a lot of work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcfox1 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 You know what, I've been holding this in apparently for too long now. So many of the younger posters are spoiled beyond rotten over what's happened the past couple of winters. When you and I were young, we got pretty ramped for 3-6, 4-8 type events. Young folks don't anymore. 2, 3, 4, 5 storms in the past 14 months that have repeatedly dropped a foot plus each time has raised the bar with these guys to WAY beyond what is "normal." Heck, in Lancaster, we average one 12"snow per decade. Last winter we had 3 in about a month and a half. I simply cannot fathom the amount of griping going on this winter. It makes me sick. I can't even go in the mid Atlantic thread...they got from 70" to 100" last winter, are near their average this winter for this time of year, throw in La Nina, and they should be tickled pink they've gotten any snow. Sure, they've missed out while NY, Philly, and Boston have been wamboozled, but for the love of God, what do they expect? They don't live in NE, they live in an area that historically gets 20" or less per year. I could go on and on but I better stop... My thought exactly. Since I have been a kid northern and west Pa get the lake effect in early winter till the lakes freeze, I loved going to potter co as a kid and have snow at deer season. then later the central and eastern areas catch the occasional Noreasters. Last year was a rarity with the amount af big events. Even when a big event came here we were often on the rain snow line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexP Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Good afternoon! You should have been there in the '90s! I grew up in Lancaster and we had many ice storms during the 90s. The winter of 93-94 was especially bad...It was one snow and ice storm after another. I remember the winter of '93-'94 as the "year of the ice storms." I was living in NYC at the time and remember a January '94 storm where the freezing rain fell so heavily that it didn't "glaze" so much as if formed a coating of slush on top of everything. I'm not sure where this ice storm fits in historically for SC PA, but it's certainly the most memorable in my lifetime. My office in Camp Hill is STILL without power, and PP&L has pushed back our estimate to 2:30am. Apparently 3 transformers blew within sight of the building around 7 this morning. We're running our emergency equipment on generators until the juice comes back. My drive into work was a mini-adventure as my car was struck by little icicle bombs on Front Street. By far the most impactful storm of the season for me personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawxworld Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Not sure if anyone heard about the 12z EURO...but it says this weekend looks good for C PA (.50 area wide) and that JB will eat crow regarding his talks that by Feb 14th the cold disappears in the east and relaxes winter for a while. In fact, next week there are a couple of more snow chances. Encourgaging run by the EURO today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jen2swt Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 To the person who said this storm was "weak"...perhaps he should take a look at some of the damage it caused here.. http://www.wgal.com/slideshow/weather/26707957/detail.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NortheastPAWx Posted February 2, 2011 Author Share Posted February 2, 2011 I'll take the 3-6"/4-8" we look to pull from this event. Not going to get much better than that in the NEUS, and it's not like places 50-100 miles east are getting 12"+ again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Festus Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Not bad. Zero 850 and surface line right overhead here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAG5035 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Here's what it looked like at about 9 this morning, some smallish branches here and there came down. No significant damage or power outages occurred around these parts. Fortunately, as is usually the case around here with ice events.. the ice got pretty well melted by the period of above freezing and the wind took care of the rest of it. So no ice left on the trees fortunately. The quick moving dry slot late last night saved things from getting pretty bad since the precip just shut off and didn't linger and continue to build ice. The rain gauge had about 0.8-0.9" of water after completely thawed out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSTWX Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Here's what it looked like at about 9 this morning, some smallish branches here and there came down. No significant damage or power outages occurred around these parts. Fortunately, as is usually the case around here with ice events.. the ice got pretty well melted by the period of above freezing and the wind took care of the rest of it. So no ice left on the trees fortunately. The quick moving dry slot late last night saved things from getting pretty bad since the precip just shut off and didn't linger and continue to build ice. The rain gauge had about 0.8-0.9" of water after completely thawed out. Hey, do you care if I use these on-air tonight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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