Eskimo Joe Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 The back edge of the precip is very close to CLE and about 40 min away from PIT. The dryslot of doom is headed right for DET! Watch the precip fill over southern Ohio as a secondary low tries for form, the ''dryslot'' over Ohio will become the western edge of the new precip shield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 More puddles than ice out there. Not much on our trees. I dunno.....this isn't seeming all that bad as of now. Still 30.9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Strange...I figured we'd see Johnstown and Altoona warm before us...they are at 31° and 30°, respectively. Definitely lots of sleet out there now again....parking lot is pretty white. It's very strange. It's 31.2 here now. sleet/rain mix. Not sure if it is freezing that much due to rates. Do we drop at all later before rising again? UNV's dewpoint is 28. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PottercountyWXobserver Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Watch the precip fill over southern Ohio as a secondary low tries for form, the ''dryslot'' over Ohio will become the western edge of the new precip shield. I trust yeah on this one, it actually looks like its begining to fill on the last couple of frames. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PennMan Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 It's very strange. It's 31.2 here now. sleet/rain mix. Not sure if it is freezing that much due to rates. Do we drop at all later before rising again? UNV's dewpoint is 28. Maybe if those heavier bands about to move in are mostly sleet we drop a couple degrees? Either that or the CAD push gets a little stronger as it seems to be doing to our SE and we drop. Not sure exactly. I don't know that I want to see a devastating ice storm, but I would have at least liked to see something interesting and wintry...not rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAG5035 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Strange...I figured we'd see Johnstown and Altoona warm before us...they are at 31° and 30°, respectively. Definitely lots of sleet out there now again....parking lot is pretty white. yea i've actually seen an uptick in the amount of sleet in the precip the last half hour or so down here. Nothing to the point of really covering anything though. My wireless thermometer has bumped up to 32.2ºF, but i found that the handheld was a degree or so colder when i had it out walking around earlier. Probably gonna go outside in a bit and look at things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Maybe if those heavier bands about to move in are mostly sleet we drop a couple degrees? Either that or the CAD push gets a little stronger as it seems to be doing to our SE and we drop. Not sure exactly. I don't know that I want to see a devastating ice storm, but I would have at least liked to see something interesting and wintry...not rain. Yeah, I agree. Hopefully we get sleet. Not looking that great for a PSU delay. yea i've actually seen an uptick in the amount of sleet in the precip the last half hour or so down here. Nothing to the point of really covering anything though. My wireless thermometer has bumped up to 32.2ºF, but i found that the handheld was a degree or so colder when i had it out walking around earlier. Probably gonna go outside in a bit and look at things. Wondering if that heavier stuff takes us over to sleet and drops the temp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Maybe if those heavier bands about to move in are mostly sleet we drop a couple degrees? Either that or the CAD push gets a little stronger as it seems to be doing to our SE and we drop. Not sure exactly. I don't know that I want to see a devastating ice storm, but I would have at least liked to see something interesting and wintry...not rain. Seems to do that all the time around State College. Sleet always dominates more than expected and ZR less so. It also usually takes temps being less than 30 for ice to really accrete when it's mod-heavy intensity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Ah temp fell back to 32.2 but now rising again back to 32.4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Tree branches are beginning to bow here in Lancaster County. I do not feel like venturing outside right now, however I promise to take pictures once the sun gets up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisM Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 yea i've actually seen an uptick in the amount of sleet in the precip the last half hour or so down here. Nothing to the point of really covering anything though. My wireless thermometer has bumped up to 32.2ºF, but i found that the handheld was a degree or so colder when i had it out walking around earlier. Probably gonna go outside in a bit and look at things. Hey, you had a picture of your truck on another forum huh? Is that you? I joined that one way back in '06. Congrats on bein a met now ok done creeping time to go back to my cave in the NE forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hckyplayer8 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Sleet has become the main precip type now as its really coming down. Didn't really expect that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NortheastPAWx Posted February 2, 2011 Author Share Posted February 2, 2011 IP/ZR mix. Trees are glazed. Snowpack has frozen solid. 22.3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Even though is near freezing the trees are collecting a good bit of ice. Probably about .2-.25" i'd say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 The latest 925mb analysis shows a significant ice storm evolving for the southern tier counties of Pennsylvania. Cold high pressure continues to funnel sub freezing air through the lowest levels of the atmosphere. Currently, Reading Airport (KRDG) is 27/24 with a strengthening NE wind. This is a clear indicator that locations north of Rt. 30 will all but surely fail to break freezing tonight. The combination of rimmed sleet and freezing rain will continue for the next next several hours, probably ending between 4-7am around Chambersburg and Gettysburg, and 7-10am in places like Lebanon and Lancaster. I would not be surprised to see ice accumulations of up to 1" in some of the deepest valleys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daxx Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 It is starting to get ugly around here. Tree branches are starting to really sag. My temp has gone down over the past hour as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 The latest 925mb analysis shows a significant ice storm evolving for the southern tier counties of Pennsylvania. Cold high pressure continues to funnel sub freezing air through the lowest levels of the atmosphere. Currently, Reading Airport (KRDG) is 27/24 with a strengthening NE wind. This is a clear indicator that locations north of Rt. 30 will all but surely fail to break freezing tonight. The combination of rimmed sleet and freezing rain will continue for the next next several hours, probably ending between 4-7am around Chambersburg and Gettysburg, and 7-10am in places like Lebanon and Lancaster. I would not be surprised to see ice accumulations of up to 1" in some of the deepest valleys. Damnedest ice storm I have ever seen. Crazy we are warmer than Reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 The latest 925mb analysis shows a significant ice storm evolving for the southern tier counties of Pennsylvania. Cold high pressure continues to funnel sub freezing air through the lowest levels of the atmosphere. Currently, Reading Airport (KRDG) is 27/24 with a strengthening NE wind. This is a clear indicator that locations north of Rt. 30 will all but surely fail to break freezing tonight. The combination of rimmed sleet and freezing rain will continue for the next next several hours, probably ending between 4-7am around Chambersburg and Gettysburg, and 7-10am in places like Lebanon and Lancaster. I would not be surprised to see ice accumulations of up to 1" in some of the deepest valleys. Wish that high would funnel me some cold air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Damnedest ice storm I have ever seen. Crazy we are warmer than Reading. Not really. You are on the Allegheny Pleatu and several hundred miles closer to the center of the low. Thus your location is being flooded easier with warm air. Eastern Pennsylvania is furthest away from the intense LL jet and is better oriented with the high over the St. Lawrence Valley / access to NE winds. I'm amazed at how the ice is continuing its steady accretion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afvet89 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Damnedest ice storm I have ever seen. Crazy we are warmer than Reading. It seems there is a cooler layer in eastern Pa than central Pa. temps here around 30 but mid to upper 20s in the LV. Also, these NE winds that east Pa are getting , we are not here. Currently a light SE wind both here and the airport.No sign of a NE component in this town.Been watching it all nite.Maybe thats why its colder to our east. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAG5035 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Yeah, I agree. Hopefully we get sleet. Not looking that great for a PSU delay. Wondering if that heavier stuff takes us over to sleet and drops the temp? I've been watching the radar and i've realized that it might not necessarily be heavier bands per say. Check out this latest ccx loop. As you see theres a ring around the radar site by some number or miles radius. It appears that the brightbanding (melting snow reflectivity) has gotten lower and thus contracted towards the radar site. I seen this on the Pittsburgh radar a bit ago too. Using a general rough 50 mile radius to the yellow/oranges and the 0.5º radar beam i come up with these echoes at something like 2300-2500 ft above the ground wrt to the radar site's elevation. I think CCX is pretty high in elevation, not sure exactly, but i'd say these echoes are in the 850-900mb layer. This is also coninciding with the max forcing moving through the area and squeezing out the best precip rates. So the column might've cooled enough to allow for a lower/thinner level the snowflakes are barely melting and some are refreezing into sleet pellets as it hits the colder air. Kind of interesting to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Not really. You are on the Allegheny Pleatu and several hundred miles closer to the center of the low. Thus your location is being flooded easier with warm air. Eastern Pennsylvania is furthest away from the intense LL jet and is better oriented with the high over the St. Lawrence Valley / access to NE winds. I'm amazed at how the ice is continuing its steady accretion. True....just unusual. It's looking like a forecast bust here but will see what happens rest of the night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 It seems there is a cooler layer in eastern Pa than central Pa. temps here around 30 but mid to upper 20s in the LV. Also, these NE winds that east Pa are getting , we are not here. Currently a light SE wind both here and the airport.No sign of a NE component in this town.Been watching it all nite.Maybe thats why its colder to our east. Yeah, that's likely it. State College reporting plain rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afvet89 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Driving home from work an hr ago we were mostly sleet with a little fzra mixed in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 For it only being around freezing, this is the heaviest rain I ever have seen in the winter. It's pouring out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PennMan Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 I've been watching the radar and i've realized that it might not necessarily be heavier bands per say. Check out this latest ccx loop. As you see theres a ring around the radar site by some number or miles radius. It appears that the brightbanding (melting snow reflectivity) has gotten lower and thus contracted towards the radar site. I seen this on the Pittsburgh radar a bit ago too. Using a general rough 50 mile radius to the yellow/oranges and the 0.5º radar beam i come up with these echoes at something like 2300-2500 ft above the ground wrt to the radar site's elevation. I think CCX is pretty high in elevation, not sure exactly, but i'd say these echoes are in the 850-900mb layer. This is also coninciding with the max forcing moving through the area and squeezing out the best precip rates. So the column might've cooled enough to allow for a lower/thinner level the snowflakes are barely melting and some are refreezing into sleet pellets as it hits the colder air. Kind of interesting to watch. Right at 2400ft, actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monmouthcounty11 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Yeah, that's likely it. State College reporting plain rain. Now reporting light snow, which I can say is highly inaccurate as I look out my apartment window. Definitely sleet and freezing rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Well the temp is holding at 32.4. I don't think it will drop any. Time for bed for real this time. I was a little happy when I thought the temp might fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afvet89 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Now reporting light snow, which I can say is highly inaccurate as I look out my apartment window. Definitely sleet and freezing rain. yep.I noticed that ob too.lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlislePaWx Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Moderate Freezing Rain falling here in Carlisle with an ever-increasing glaze forming over everything. Tree branches moving with the wind and making loud crackling noises. Best guess on accretion is between .15" and .20". My temp has been rock steady between 29.6 and 29.9 but now has dropped to 29.5 with the heavier precip falling. Hope we don't lose power. Thankfully we can go to my in-laws if we do lose power. They have backup generator power as they are in a retirement community. Looking at how fast that western edge of precip is flying eastward I'd say that this whole thing is over before sunrise. I'm listening to the trucks fly by on I-81 so it sounds like the major highways have things under control. See you all in the morning with my final update, as long as I don't lose power and my internet before then! ---Stephen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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