MAG5035 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Lots of sleet here now north of State College. Coated the parking lot after a tenth or so of glaze. If we can hold on to sleet for several hours we can avoid disastrous ice accumulations. How far north of State? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hckyplayer8 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Just ventured outside. Solid accumulation on all surfaces but somehow the roads here are holding on. At least the one in front of my house is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawatch Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Be interesting to see what this shows tomorrow. https://selfserv.ppl.../OutageMap.aspx Hopefully no outages A lot of Pink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSTWX Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 No thermometer. I just went outside and the wood flag pole is just starting to get a glaze on it . . Wow. Thanks for the update. Just wet up here in Upper Yoder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvdmgsr Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Wow its very icy out here in state college. People falling left and right. I'm safe inside cafe 210 haha The alcohol won't help you stay upright, but it might not hurt as much when you fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 NWS State College's new ice graphic is a good stab I think with the axis of heaviest ice... With Altoona and State College leading the way with pretty much a whopping 0.7" of ice. They really ramped up ice totals in the northern tier since the warm air near the 850 level has seemed to have more of a free run at the New York border than originally anticipated. This is likely due to the storm ending up being deeper and further NW. Up in Williamsport and/or Lock Haven, and that whole northern region up there should see more sleet mixing in than places further south as the precip gets established and cools the column a bit, hence lower ice totals. But 0.4-0.5 is still a lot of ice... just gonna be ugly. Hopefully we get the Sat event in here and cover up this mess. Also starting to get concerned about the wind potential once this storm lifts out too. Usually with these ice events the warm sector between the back edge of the precip and the cold front mixes down the warm air aloft with some increased winds and helps melt alot of ice off the trees. However, some places might get above freezing for only a few hours before the temps crash in the afternoon with some high winds coming behind the front. If we end up with these high totals of ice and can't get alot of it off the trees there's going to be some tree and powerline issues for sure. I'm very concerned about the wind. In 2000 in Texas we had .6 of ice and thr next day had 40 mph winds. Pretty much a 50 square mile area didn't have power for 12 days because of thr destroyed substations. That map you posted basically terrifies me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 How far north of State? Here in Port Matilda we are about a 50/50 mix now. Temp holding at 28.9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzard92 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 27.1 here with light zr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amishwxman Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 30.4deg F 40 mi N of MDT ZR and about 0.1in glaze on flat surfaces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveman Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Wind will be an issue once this cyclone passes. The weight of the glaze will really add to the potential for snapping limbs. As for the sleet observation in SCE, and the snow pellets in Hazelton, I'm now beginning to think that the worst of the FZRN will be in Perry, Mifflin, Juniata, Dauphin, Northumberland, Cumberland, Snyder, Lebanon, northern York Counties...or just south of where the darkest shade of red is on the CTP NWS map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irvingtwosmokes Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Wow. Thanks for the update. Just wet up here in Upper Yoder. Since I'm about a 1/2 mile from Albert, I always used his stats. But, it appears he went out of the weather business again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PottercountyWXobserver Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Ughh sleet is soooo boring, I can't wait to get in on some ZR again, enough to make it look sweet but not enough to cause outages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawatch Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 I'm very concerned about the wind. In 2000 in Texas we had .6 of ice and thr next day had 40 mph winds. Pretty much a 50 square mile area didn't have power for 12 days because of thr destroyed substations. That map you posted basically terrifies me. It doesn't look like the stronger winds will be until tomorrow in the daylight hours. Still might not be good with all the ice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PennMan Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 How far north of State? About 1.5 miles. Was like 75-90% sleet there for awhile...more freezing rain now again it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzard92 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Wind will be an issue once this cyclone passes. The weight of the glaze will really add to the potential for snapping limbs. As for the sleet observation in SCE, and the snow pellets in Hazelton, I'm now beginning to think that the worst of the FZRN will be in Perry, Mifflin, Juniata, Dauphin, Northumberland, Cumberland, Snyder, Lebanon, northern York Counties...or just south of where the darkest shade of red is on the CTP NWS map. I agree completely. Looking at current temperatures they appear to favor this region with Lebanon County having the coldest surface temperatures. Winds remain out of the east-northeast locking in the cold air, although it does appear temperatures rise a bit with the precipitation as expected. Elevations above 600ft could have serious problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PottercountyWXobserver Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Quick question, sense its almost impossible to tell where the sleet/ZR line is on the radar, is there anyway to get a view of where it is and how close its to certain areas, I know observations help locate this setup but Im talking like upper air maps to determine this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hckyplayer8 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 PennDOT pulling out all the stops. Just witnessed one of their trucks go by treating the road. That is unheard of in my neck of the woods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monmouthcounty11 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 It was predominantly sleet for about 15 minutes here at Penn State, but now it has shifted back almost exclusively to freezing rain which is coming down at a pretty good clip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Temps flying up here now. 31.8. This pretty much sucks. About ..15" on everything. Might not last much longer at this rate though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 This storm is really trucking. I wouldn't be surprised if it is over by 5 am here. Back edge is through the western third of OH. Looks like a bit of backbuilding tho. Temp sitting at 28.9 still with light freezing rain and a bit of sleet mixed in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PottercountyWXobserver Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 This storm is haulin, It wouldn't surprise me if its about over by 5AM this morning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 I agree completely. Looking at current temperatures they appear to favor this region with Lebanon County having the coldest surface temperatures. Winds remain out of the east-northeast locking in the cold air, although it does appear temperatures rise a bit with the precipitation as expected. Elevations above 600ft could have serious problems. I believe you, saus, myself and our neighbors are in serious trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 I believe you, saus, myself and our neighbors are in serious trouble. I can't get a single breeze here for some reason. I think i am the only location with calm winds. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 This storm is haulin, It wouldn't surprise me if its about over by 5AM this morning lol great minds think alike. Bumped up to 29.1 here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djr5001 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Ice is getting thick quick here near Harrisburg... im trying to figure out how to go get a measurement without getting myself stuck lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawatch Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 NWS just put a warning out. URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE STATE COLLEGE PA 1042 PM EST TUE FEB 1 2011 ...WINTER STORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 1 PM EST WEDNESDAY... A WINTER STORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 1 PM EST WEDNESDAY. * LOCATION...SOUTH CENTRAL PENNSYLVANIA. * PRECIPITATION TYPE...SLEET AND FREEZING RAIN TURNING TO ALL FREEZING RAIN. LOCATIONS SOUTH OF THE TURNPIKE MAY WARM UP ENOUGH TO TURN TO PLAIN RAIN BY SUNRISE. BUT THOSE SOUTHERN TIER AREAS WILL STILL HAVE SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF ICE BUILD UP BEFORE WARMING UP. * ACCUMULATIONS...LITTLE ADDITIONAL SLEET ACCUMULATIONS. SIGNIFICANT AND DAMAGING ICE ACCUMULATIONS BETWEEN ONE QUARTER AND ONE HALF INCH ALONG AND SOUTH OF INTERSTATE 80...WITH THE HEAVIEST GLAZING LIKELY ACROSS THE RIDGES NEAR AND JUST TO THE SOUTH OF INTERSTATE 80. SOME LOCATIONS MAY GET MORE THAN ONE HALF OF AN INCH OF A THICK...ICY GLAZE. * IMPACTS...SNOW AND ICE COVERED ROADS WILL CREATE HAZARDOUS TRAVEL CONDITIONS. POWER OUTAGES ARE ALSO LIKELY DUE TO THICK ACCRETIONS OF FREEZING RAIN ON THE POWER LINES THEMSELVES AND ALSO ON TREE LIMBS WHICH WOULD BREAK OFF AND COULD PULL DOWN THE POWER LINES. * WINDS...EAST TO NORTHEAST 5 TO 10 MPH IN THE VALLEYS...AND SOUTHEAST 10 TO 20 MPH ON THE RIDGES. WINDS WILL SHIFT TO THE WEST ACROSS THE LAUREL HIGHLANDS AND CENTRAL MOUNTAIN`S IN THE WAKE OF A COLD FRONT WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON...AND INCREASE TO 15 TO 20 MPH WITH GUSTS UP TO 40 MPH POSSIBLE LATER WEDNESDAY. PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS... A WINTER STORM WARNING MEANS SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF SNOW... SLEET...OR ICE ARE EXPECTED OR OCCURRING. THOSE WITH TRAVEL PLANS IN THE WARNED AREA ARE ADVISED TO TAKE AN ALTERNATIVE ROUTE...OR SHOULD USE EXTREME CAUTION IF TRAVEL IS UNAVOIDABLE. CARRY EXTRA SUPPLIES...INCLUDING BLANKETS...FOOD AND A CELLULAR PHONE IN CASE YOUR CAR BECOMES STRANDED. STAY TUNED TO NOAA WEATHER RADIO OR YOUR FAVORITE SOURCE OF WEATHER INFORMATION FOR THE LATEST UPDATES. ADDITIONAL DETAILS CAN ALSO BE FOUND AT... WEATHER.GOV/STATECOLLEGE. && Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveman Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Quick question, sense its almost impossible to tell where the sleet/ZR line is on the radar, is there anyway to get a view of where it is and how close its to certain areas, I know observations help locate this setup but Im talking like upper air maps to determine this? The temperature profiles are so very complex in this particular situation that it is nearly impossible to use modeled maps to determine precip types at the surface. Couple that with the diverse terrain in PA and trying to pinpoint a specific precip type in this synoptic set up is extremely difficult. Surface obs leave no doubt. I like to use the mesoanalysis page from NWS SPC for maps and guidance, however. http://w1.spc.woc.noaa.gov/exper/mesoanalysis/new/viewsector.php?sector=16# Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NortheastPAWx Posted February 2, 2011 Author Share Posted February 2, 2011 Looks like mostly sleet...boo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Ice is getting thick quick here near Harrisburg... im trying to figure out how to go get a measurement without getting myself stuck lol From past experience, I'm guessing we already have .15 on everything and building quickly with this light but steady rain at 28.9 degrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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