Zeus Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 My bad. Thanks. That would mean around 4-8" for tommorow. Which would make good sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Light snow now..should be mostly this light stuff the rest of the day..Gonna head out and shovel and measure.. Temp is only 18.4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 If its the same water equivalent, they'll weight the same. What if one is more concentrated than the other (IOW, same water equivalent over a smaller volume.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKpowdah Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Bump That's about the same water equivalent, so same mass = same weight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan11295 Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Someone should really start a new thread..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 09z. The time stamp should be on them. My fault for not posting the timestamps. It looks like we rip SN through 12z...15z could be changing to sleet, but hard to say for sure. The snow/sleet line is probably about halfway between the 850-700 line and the 0C 850 line on those. If we can stay all snow through 15z, then we are almost certainly good for >6" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Bump Is this a serious question? They weigh the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Is this a serious question? They weigh the same. I don't see how that is possible..Yes it is a serious ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeus Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 It looks like we rip SN through 12z...15z could be changing to sleet, but hard to say for sure. The snow/sleet line is probably about halfway between the 850-700 line and the 0C 850 line on those. If we can stay all snow through 15z, then we are almost certainly good for >6" All I care about is staving off plain rain. I welcome the pingers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 What if one is more concentrated than the other (IOW, same water equivalent over a smaller volume.) They are both falling on top of already present snow...so they are going to impart the same force on the structure below. Freezing rain would obviously be significantly worse due to the tree damage and power loss etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomNH Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 I don't see how that is possible..Yes it is a serious ? It wouldn't matter if what falls tomorrow is snow, ice, or sleet. It's all the same amount if melted down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codfishsnowman Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 snow winding down..7 inches new...depth back up to 24 to 28 inches so i guess we will call it 26 avg which is right where we were as the snow ended last Thursday morning. hoping for a quick thump before the sleet fest tomorrow anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 I don't see how that is possible..Yes it is a serious ? 3" of sleet ~ 1" water equivalent 1" of zr ~ 1" water equivalent the water is what is causing the weight..so they would weigh basically the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKpowdah Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 I don't see how that is possible..Yes it is a serious ? 3" of sleet is about the same water equivalent as 1" of ice. The density of sleet is about a third of that of ice. But the volume of the sleet is three times greater and so their mass is the same. With the same mass, there's the same magnitude of force (mass * gravity) pushing down on wherever the sleet / ice has accumulated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 3" of sleet ~ 1" water equivalent 1" of zr ~ 1" water equivalent the water is what is causing the weight..so they would weigh basically the same. Thanks. I didnt ask the question originally, but I was also interested in finding out. BTW is the ratio of sleet to liquid 2:1 or 3:1? I've heard both numbers being mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherMA Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Ripping now with huge flakes for the finale. Nice show from 7am-3pm here...should come in just shy or just over 7". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 It looks like we rip SN through 12z...15z could be changing to sleet, but hard to say for sure. The snow/sleet line is probably about halfway between the 850-700 line and the 0C 850 line on those. If we can stay all snow through 15z, then we are almost certainly good for >6" A couple of hours could mean a lot. Tough forecast. I'm thinking 15z-16z mixing with sleet possibly, but it's close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomNH Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Ripping now with huge flakes for the finale. Nice show from 7am-3pm here...should come in just shy or just over 7". Yeah, fun little appetizer. We averaged 1''/hr throughout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Thanks. I didnt ask the question originally, but I was also interested in finding out. BTW is the ratio of sleet to liquid 2:1 or 3:1? I've heard both numbers being mentioned. It depends on the sleet...sleet can often have "pixie dust" mixed in with it...almost like these very tiny horribly formed snowflakes. That can increase the ratio of sleet to water. If its 100% pure sleet with nothing but pure ice pellets and no minute crappy ice crystals mixed in then the ratio is usually lower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmwes Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 I don't see how that is possible..Yes it is a serious ? A pound of feathers weighs the same as a pound of ball bearings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wackymann Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Shoveled off my entire roof this morning - took almost 4 hours (over 2000 sq ft) . There was almost 2 feet of snow up there - not sure if the roof could've handled another 2 feet. I really wish the roof wasn't always in the shade. We are surrounded by tall pines on 3 sides. Only the east facing side is open down to the road. I looked like the abominable snowman when I finally came down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Heavy snow now....ripping as good as it was (almost) mid morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ineedsnow Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 just went out and measured right around 10 inches in 5 places around the driveway night! 10 more inches to hit 20 tonight tomorrow and tomorrow night its within reach i think thanks to today but it wont be easy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 6.5" here...one final burst moving through over the next hour I've said "one final burst" several times. lol just shy of 6" attm with big flakes, moderate intensity. 15.6/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctsnowstorm628 Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 wow for us NNE peeps, on the euro, temps dont get above 12 in all of northern vt and nh..15 in sw me...with about .85" qpf from storm 2...thats probably 15 or 20:1 because we are deff gonna be in some good banding...so is it right to say that some areas could see 18" with .85" qpf up here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Question?Does a pound of weenies weigh the same as a frozen pound of weenies? Ended as Sleet, round one cleanup complete, hoping for snow / sleet . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 What weighs more? 3 inches of sleet or an inch of zr on top of snowpack? Does anyone know? I'm just wondering which would be more dangerous to infrastucture on top of snow p-type is irrelevant. equal amounts of qpf weigh the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomNH Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 I've said "one final burst" several times. lol just shy of 6" attm with big flakes, moderate intensity. 15.6/12 I think we end up either side of 16'' total. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTWeatherFreak Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 20 degrees here in newington, and rain drops have just started appearing, mixed with the sleet. The precip is light though, and radar confirms we are near the end of part 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowMan Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Light snow now..should be mostly this light stuff the rest of the day..Gonna head out and shovel and measure.. Temp is only 18.4 Take pics of the snow banks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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