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Epic winter signal continues to beam, part V


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Thanks Scott, now I can sleep, seriously. I'm all amped up. I get nervous that something will go wrong at the last minute. That's why I'm forcing myself to detach, until I get up to see what the Euro spits out.lol I've been on the phone with my ski freak friends all night, plotting and conspiring to shirk all responsibilities. Getting congrats called in from BC, Washington, Oregon and Alalska. This is why I've always been self -employed. Work hard, play hard.

Well I'd wait until tomorrow to satisfy any fears you have. This one may have a few tricks.

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Thanks Scott, now I can sleep, seriously. I'm all amped up. I get nervous that something will go wrong at the last minute. That's why I'm forcing myself to detach, until I get up to see what the Euro spits out.lol I've been on the phone with my ski freak friends all night, plotting and conspiring to shirk all responsibilities. Getting congrats called in from BC, Washington, Oregon and Alalska. This is why I've always been self -employed. Work hard, play hard.

Amen brother! 20 years of this for me. And we can plan our winters around snow storms. It is a little disconcerting to see you nervous though...you are Mr. Smooth n Easy usually. Your nervousness can only mean a big bust or a huge overperformer. Just look at the radar man....round 1 slug lookin good moving across Indiana and Ohio. You wake up in the morning to accumulating snow.

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This is starting to look like 12/16/07 again for forecasting ptype near the pike. Hopefully this one trends colder in the final 12-18h like that one did so the forecast headaches can be pushed closer to Ryan's area, lol.

Oy.. seriously - I'm getting the feeling that I won't have a good idea of when I'll change over until I'm ripping aggregates and slightly mixing with sleet which could last for quite some time from the sounds of it.

Glad to have Jerry and Scott leaning more snow than sleet but just like the general average of all the runs in the last 48 hours it's a matter of 25 miles either side of the pike still.

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This is starting to look like 12/16/07 again for forecasting ptype near the pike. Hopefully this one trends colder in the final 12-18h like that one did so the forecast headaches can be pushed closer to Ryan's area, lol.

LOL, that's been heavy in my thoughts. What a tight rope. I guess the one thing I like seeing is that the "warm" layer seems to only get to 0.8 to 1C. I know that may be a little on the warm side, but some of that can be overcome I think.

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This is starting to look like 12/16/07 again for forecasting ptype near the pike. Hopefully this one trends colder in the final 12-18h like that one did so the forecast headaches can be pushed closer to Ryan's area, lol.

Lol thanks! I'm pretty confident s big ice storm is unlikely. It's dealing with snow vs sleet now

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850s and 2m temp still below 0C by 15z Wednesday, but 540 line is north, sleet I'm guessing?

Can't really go by the 540dm thickness contour... I've seen straight snow storms at 552 thickness before. You have to look at the individual critical thickness intervals.

That said, I suspect between Rt 2 and the Pike there will be a very tall IP column, where the above freezing level is substantial enough to melt closer to 800mb level than 850. That is ...if

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gfs (and it may have done this at 18z - i didn't look at that run...it didn't so much at 12z) wants to kiss the south shore of CT with the 0C isotherm at 700mb...that's a flag for stealth warm layers...so careful not to judge this thing too much by your 850 temp if you are near the 0C line and thinking that line is the demarcation zone for snow/sleet or what not.

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Amen brother! 20 years of this for me. And we can plan our winters around snow storms. It is a little disconcerting to see you nervous though...you are Mr. Smooth n Easy usually. Your nervousness can only mean a big bust or a huge overperformer. Just look at the radar man....round 1 slug lookin good moving across Indiana and Ohio. You wake up in the morning to accumulating snow.

Round 1 doesn't worry me. It's round 2 ,I hate mid level warmth, it keeps me up at night.lol Really I'm not worried, I'm feigning so I can get people to tell me I'm going to get smoked. I just like hearing that.

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gfs (and it may have done this at 18z - i didn't look at that run...it didn't so much at 12z) wants to kiss the south shore of CT with the 0C isotherm at 700mb...that's a flag for stealth warm layers...so careful not to judge this thing too much by your 850 temp if you are near the 0C line and thinking that line is the demarcation zone for snow/sleet or what not.

Yeah this thing has a sh*tload of warmth. Probably why we see such substantial 6hr qpf on Wednesday. Tremendous WAA.

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