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January 31-February 2 Historic Winter Storm part 7


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I think because of the regional discrepancies when I say south moneyman might come trash me and get upset.

but really the models have just went to a deeper system that tracks more SSW to NNE.

because of this models have trended colder...at all levels....warm wedge is smaller, and temps surface to 3K support all sleet even into the southern counties in the STL metro at this point.

the warm wedge is so small....many places on the SE side of the snow band will see a changeover to heavy snow at times from sleet.

If I had to go with numbers now...

I would say 8-12 of sleet/snow for STL with .3 icing, .5 icing a bit south with 6-8 there. 12-24 inches just NW of STL.

for LAF I say 10-15 inches of snow and sleet, a bit of ice..but mostly snow and sleet.

if they stay all snow 15+

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Long time listener, first time caller. I'm in Peoria IL. Based on what I'm reading, it sounds like we're absolute ground-zero for this storm, even more so than Chicagoland.

Anyone want to hazard a guess as to what we'll see in Peoria/Bloomington? 12"? 18"? 20"? All snow, or ice layer followed by snow? People here at work are starting to freak out, so a Peoria-centric forecast would be much appreciated. THANKS!

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Ground zero for this immediate area looks somewhere from PIA to Midway south to IKK. 20" totals are certainly possible anywhere in this band.

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Long time listener, first time caller. I'm in Peoria IL. Based on what I'm reading, it sounds like we're absolute ground-zero for this storm, even more so than Chicagoland.

Anyone want to hazard a guess as to what we'll see in Peoria/Bloomington? 12"? 18"? 20"? All snow, or ice layer followed by snow? People here at work are starting to freak out, so a Peoria-centric forecast would be much appreciated. THANKS!

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we will get all snow...how much depends on several factors

the record 24 hour snow of 18.4ish inches is within reach.....espeically if any meso banding sets up over us but a widespread 13-15 inches with more in local mesobanding . it will be hard to measure and some of it will compact so measureing will be difficult

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So the GFS still drops 0.75" here and the GGEM is still around 1", so we can still get a good snow if the latest track and strength of the non-NAM models holds. It's always tough watching locations to my south get blasted, but it will also be very interesting to see just how much snow places like Columbia, Quincy, and Peoria get. I'll likely be up all night watching.

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Ground zero for this immediate area looks somewhere from PIA to Midway south to IKK. 20" totals are certainly possible anywhere in this band.

in ground zero

i think 2-4 inch/hr rates are possible with TSSN

max amounts should exceed 2 feet in spots......lollis to 30 inches not out of the question IMO

btw, did i miss your call for your backyard?

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in ground zero

i think 2-4 inch/hr rates are possible with TSSN

max amounts should exceed 2 feet in spots......lollis to 30 inches not out of the question IMO

btw, did i miss your call for your backyard?

Was thinking 12-18" earlier, but might jack that to 16-24", including LE.

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No DAB ;) I hope you log at least 23.1", effectively wiping out the old snow record.

I'm getting close to 100% confidence in a foot which is more or less a first, since i didn't track '99 mcuh beyond watching tv. The chance of mixing cutting down ratios/totals is nearly zero up here and QPF is consistently progged at 1.25-1.5"

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I'm getting close to 100% confidence in a foot which is more or less a first, since i didn't track '99 mcuh beyond watching tv. The chance of mixing cutting down ratios/totals is nearly zero up here and QPF is consistently progged at 1.25-1.5"

Yeah, your right about the mixing their, but LOT has RFD mixing on Tuesday in there grids, which I don't think makes much sense. Unless they count snow showers tapering off to freezing drizzle "The Mix".

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Any chance DVN upgrades to Blizzrd Warning? All elements are there.

The chance is there. Mind you I'm not in the office yet and haven't dug too deeply into the models (besides scratching my head with the NAM placement of surface features versus 500), but I think if we go to a blizzard warning it will be along and south of I-80 in Illinois. Pretty confident the day shift will have to go with a winter storm warning for the rest of the area with the afternoon package, seeing as we'll be 24 hours from the event then.

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thanks for posting those.

really isnt any great match that i have found for here in the eastern lakes wrt to the PV position

defintely uncharted territory here.

I agree. Nothing in the CIPS analogs that really compares - some of the tracks are similar during the first 36 hours but differ after that. Nothing really matches the strength that is being progged. Another one to add to the archives! Love looking at the analogs...

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