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January 31-February 2 Historic Winter Storm part 7


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Just went and measured 0.8", all falling in the last hour. Very impressive. SN-/PL mix at the moment. Seems big returns=big payoff so far, lighter returns=mix. Might be a good preview of what's to come for this area.

Man was was really ripping for a while. Some quarter to half dollar size flakes for sure. I was out around Purdue and there's already gridlock.

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What do you think of the NAM still laying goose eggs? I checked the SREF and they are all amped--especially the ARW members.

I think this is one situation where the power of ensembles is going to win. I believe you even mentioned that before. The NAM running by itself might be concerning to some, but there's obviously some issues relating to both its initialization and especially the convective schemes today. Could the NAM end up scoring a coup? Sure, but I'll bet you're more likely to scratch off a 100 or 500 bucks on your next lotto ticket than have it come out on top. The support against it from the other models is soooo overwhelming. Even the oft-terrible ETA members on the SREF are trending towards the other 3 in the SREF suite.

Today is an example of why I often find it extremely frustrating to use it as serious guidance. It's supposed to handle situations like this better, but... :lightning:

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I think this is one situation where the power of ensembles is going to win. I believe you even mentioned that before. The NAM running by itself might be concerning to some, but there's obviously some issues relating to both its initialization and especially the convective schemes today. Could the NAM end up scoring a coup? Sure, but I'll bet you're more likely to scratch off a 100 or 500 bucks on your next lotto ticket than have it come out on top. The support against it from the other models is soooo overwhelming. Even the oft-terrible ETA members on the SREF are trending towards the other 3 in the SREF suite.

Today is an example of why I often find it extremely frustrating to use it as serious guidance. It's supposed to handle situations like this better, but... :lightning:

It is a head scratcher no doubt. RGEM is not too far from reality anymore--WRF-ARW members are looking pretty realistic too. Watching that southern stream start to pivot now over the 4 corners is getting me antsy--this storm looks like a doozy--glad the word has gotten out.

When I see the coupled jet structure and deep convection aiding pressure falls--my first thought is rapid and extreme intensification. Perhaps the ARW members use better dynamic solvers than the NAM WRF-NMM--but I agree- I don't see the NAM scoring a coup.

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