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Epic winter signal continues to beam, part IV


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12z euro has a sick temp. gradient during wed.

verbatim the model has like +10C air over ACK at 925 mb...with -10C air over MRG.

it's also fairly mild in a pretty thick layer south of the Pike...not sure sleet is as much of an issue as just a lot of ice.

It actually gave Kevin some ZR.

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.LONG TERM /TUESDAY NIGHT THROUGH SUNDAY/...

TUESDAY NIGHT-WEDNESDAY...

THE FIRST PHASE OF THE PRECIPITATION SHOULD WIND DOWN BY THE EVENING

AS THE ASSOCIATED LIFT MOVES OFF TO THE EAST. DEEP MOISTURE AND

WEAK LIFT REMAIN THROUGH THE EVENING. FORECAST DATA FROM THE

DENDRITE LEVEL OF THE ATMOSPHERE SHOWS INCREASING LIFT ONCE AGAIN

AFTER 06Z ESPECIALLY IN CT AND WESTERN MA. THIS WILL BE DRIVEN

DYNAMICALLY BY THE APPROACH OF THE MAIN SYSTEM FROM THE OHIO VALLEY

AND ITS SUPPORTING 150 KNOT UPPER JET. THIS WILL ALSO BE DRIVEN

ISENTROPICALLY BY A STRONG 60-70 KNOT LOW LEVEL SOUTHERLY JET RIDING

UP OVER THE COLDER AIR AT THE SURFACE. THIS CONTINUES INTO AT LEAST

THE EARLY AFTERNOON BEFORE DIMINISHING TOWARD EVENING. THE STRONG

LOW LEVEL WINDS WILL ALSO TRANSPORT ABOVE-FREEZING AIR OVER THE TOP

OF THE COLDER SURFACE AIR...MELTING THE FALLING PRECIPITATION AND

TURNING IT INTO SLEET OR FREEZING RAIN. SURFACE TEMPS THEN CLIMB

ABOVE FREEZING WEDNESDAY IN PARTS OF RI AND SOUTHEAST MASS...WHICH

WOULD FAVOR RAIN IN THOSE AREAS.

ALL MODELS BRING LOW PRESSURE...EITHER THE PRIMARY OR /MORE LIKELY/

A COASTAL REDEVELOPMENT...SOUTH OF NEW ENGLAND WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON

AND EVENING. THE GGEM WAS FARTHEST NORTH AND THE NAM FARTHEST SOUTH

WITH THE STORM TRACK. WE FAVORED THE GFS BUT WITH SOME MODULATION

FROM THE NAM.

WE WILL BACK POPS OFF DURING EARLY TUESDAY NIGHT...THEN RETURN TO

CATEGORICAL POPS AFTER MIDNIGHT AND KEEP THEM GOING THROUGH MOST OF

WEDNESDAY. PRECIP TYPES ARE BASED ON THE GFS THERMAL PROFILES.

THIS FAVORS A CHANGE TO FREEZING RAIN/SLEET SOUTH OF THE MASS PIKE

LATE TUESDAY NIGHT...THEN WEDNESDAY FREEZING RAIN INLAND AND RAIN IN

PARTS OF RI AND SOUTHEAST MASS.

THE SURFACE LOW MOVES NORTHEAST WEDNESDAY NIGHT AND PASSES SOUTH OF

NOVA SCOTIA. THE UPPER TROF LINGERS OVER NEW ENGLAND DURING THE

NIGHT...SO WE SLOWLY BROUGHT POPS DOWN TO CHANCE LEVELS AFTER

MIDNIGHT.

THURSDAY-FRIDAY...

THE LAST NORTHERN STREAM SHORTWAVE MOVES ACROSS SOUTHERN NEW ENGLAND

THURSDAY MORNING. SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE THEN BUILDS IN. SO WE

WOULD EXPECT A FEW LINGERING CLOUDS AND SCATTERED SNOW SHOWERS

MAINLY IN EASTERN MASS THURSDAY MORNING. OTHERWISE CLEARING AND DRY

WEATHER FOR THURSDAY AND FRIDAY. THE AIRMASS INITIALLY COOLS

THURSDAY WITH 925 MB TEMPS AT -10C TO -12C SUPPORTING MAX TEMPS IN

THE 20S. THE AIRMASS THEN MODERATES FRIDAY WITH 925 MB TEMPS -6C TO

-8C SUPPORTING MAX TEMPS IN THE UPPER 20S TO MID 30S.

SATURDAY...

NO REST FOR THE WEARY. ANOTHER SYSTEM BURSTS OUT OF THE GULF OF

MEXICO AND UP THE EAST COAST. BOTH THE GFS AND EC OPERATIONAL RUNS

AGREE ON THE SURFACE LOW MOVING PAST NEW ENGLAND SATURDAY

AFTERNOON/EARLY NIGHT WITH A FEW DIFFERENCES IN TRACK AND TIMING

DETAILS. THE GFS IS FASTEST AND DEEPEST...AND SHOWS A PRESSURE FALL

OF 24 MB PER 24 HOURS FROM 12Z SAT TO 12Z SUN. BOTH GFS AND ECMWF

THERMAL PROFILES WOULD BE MAINLY SNOW...WITH POTENTIAL FOR RAIN/SNOW

MIX ACROSS THE ISLANDS.

OF COURSE...THIS IS A DAY SIX FORECAST SO EXPECT CHANGES AS THE

EVENT GETS CLOSER. FOR NOW THERE SEEMS ENOUGH AGREEMENT ON A SYSTEM

CLOSE ENOUGH TO AFFECT MOST OR ALL OF OUR AREA SO THAT WE WILL

MENTION CHANCE POPS IN ALL OF SOUTHERN NEW ENGLAND. HIGHEST POPS

WILL BE ON THE CAPE AND ISLANDS AND LOWEST POPS AT CHESHIRE AND

FRANKLIN CO/S. WE WILL USE A BLEND OF GFS AND ECMWF THERMAL

PROFILES TO GENERATE P-TYPES.

SUNDAY...

HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS OVERHEAD WITH MARGINAL COOLING OF THE AIRMASS.

EXPECT FAIR/DRY WEATHER WITH SEASONABLE TEMPERATURES.

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Other comments on this storm:

1) Dry slot potential: more of a signal on the GFS as it is further north than the NAM, but I am wondering if NYC/LI doesn't taper considerably/shut off with the second batch as best frontogenic forcing sets up to the north. Mid level RH maps possibly threaten coastal Ct. with a slot, perhaps fzdz as it continues to crank up around the Pike. Again, this is off the GFS and I don't have access to the non-free Euro.

2) Hang back snows on Thursday. Would not be surprised to have snow or snow showers in NE with lingering upper level energy/troughiness ... perhaps a few inches. But let's order the apps and main course first... and a round of High Lifes too, obv.

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Well that is highly dependent. If it is very marginal, of course it will help. However if you are +2 to 3C in a warm layer, forget it.

It was one or two pubes warmer down here back to maybe exit 4 on 495 and it wouldn't shake until temps dropped. Maybe 1c.

Wait until inside of 36h to use it.

The MM5 has been very good inside of 12-24, pretty bad outside. It's the NAM magnified in whatever direction it's going all the time.

That said the ARW and NMM have not been colder most of the time, they're chilly this time keeping the 0c at 850 south of the 48 hour NAM

I'd also argue the SREF's have not been very good outside of 24...erratic as all heck.

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Box's discussion didn't overwhelm me considering were there map is right now seems like they are in different directions, to me if you blended the 2 parts of RI/SE Mass would get 8-10 inches of snow and .25-.5 inches of ice? that can't be right seems like a nightmare.

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This was a feature in almost every swfe from '07/'08 and '08/'09. If it weren't for that, they would be Hudson Valley runners.

Ha, ok... I guess it's a matter of semantics. Hudson Valley runners, to me, are the quintessential SWFEs, which this clearly isn't.

NE terminology FTW.

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Is it my computer or does it seem like the NWS site is teetering on the edge of collapse today?

It is. Message received from NCEP.

NOXX01 KWBC 311800

FROM - NWSTG

SUBJECT - OUTAGE REPORT

FYI - THE FORECAST.WEATHER.GOV WEB SERVICE IS CURRENTLY

DOWN. NWS ENGINEERS ARE CURRENTLY ON SITE TROUBLESHOOTING

THE PROBLEM. WE CURRENTLY HAVE NO ETR AVAILABLE.

YOUR PATIENCE IS APPRECIATED.

NWSTG/BB

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yeah maybe your precip shuts down first. i don't know.

the ec just looks like a big ice signal to me, for your area. it has a sizable warm layer.

Honestly it isn't terribly different than the GFS. I see it as a sign of ice too. The difference (model wise) between sleet and zr is so minor anyway, why anyone would swear 100% against it is beyond me.

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Ha, ok... I guess it's a matter of semantics. Hudson Valley runners, to me, are the quintessential SWFEs, which this clearly isn't.

NE terminology FTW.

LOL, well I get what you are saying. We just dealt with so many of these during those winters, we (well I should say Will et al) came up with a loose definition of them.

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No...it's them.., their TRS-80s are not built to handle this much traffic I guess...been slow/non-responsive all day.

Man, that is a sweet map up our way

On one hand I think it'd be incredible but on the other hand I think it may be a bit overdone and I have no idea where the hell I'll put 21''. The former hand is better.

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