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We evidently didn't learn our lesson from the 12+ hours of non-accumulating snow last season. The blue thing must be sacrificed. It must be sacrificed for the greater good while there is still time. . .

P.S. If the owner of said blue thing is offended, please don't be....just some joking around.

That has sig written all over it. nice...

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We evidently didn't learn our lesson from the 12+ hours of non-accumulating snow last season. The blue thing must be sacrificed. It must be sacrificed for the greater good while there is still time. . .

P.S. If the owner of said blue thing is offended, please don't be....just some joking around.

Sacrificed? :twister: Bloo Q Kazoo is a good luck charm though. :rambo: You sacrifice him and it will never snow here again. :lightning: Oh and no offense here. I know it's all joking...well some of it. :lol:

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well yes on this run its shows that. but right now we just want the storm to continue to show up. just way too early for specifics. but right now you gotta like the chances, for a possible major storm sometime near the beginning of december. with the possibility of a very -NAO and -AO if we could get -NAO west based it would help our chances for wintry precip. but any precip whether its rain or snow would be great.

Oh yes. I agree with ya about the rain and all, and we need it. It's just I hate to think if it shows this, that it may trend warmer and drier like previous runs. We'll take what we can get to at least get out of this low precipitation issue.

We evidently didn't learn our lesson from the 12+ hours of non-accumulating snow last season. The blue thing must be sacrificed. It must be sacrificed for the greater good while there is still time. . .

P.S. If the owner of said blue thing is offended, please don't be....just some joking around.

Man that gave me a good laugh when I saw this post. I remember seeing that thing last winter, and I have to say, he was kind of a lucky little dude. Every time bad mojo arose, the little guy someone brought good mojo back into the situation. :lol:

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:snowman:

This

this will not happen like this haha

I haven't checked the soundings but it is hard to imagine it being good and cold down here with the low so close. I'll live to see a storm like that one out at 312, with the low in Fla. instead, ...just hope I'm not drooling and nodding when I do :) The last monster I got was an ice storm..I'm wanting a 3 inch liquid sleet storm next... Joe's promised sleetacane! Complete with fridgiclastic flows. T

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The 0z even looks good for MBY, loving these fantasy storms 300 hours out...can't wait to see what the models show this weekend.:thumbsup: I kinda hate being on the edge of that 0c line though...it always happens for central NC, so I'm used to it...If the GFS doesn't have anything verified for the east coast in early December, I won't look at it again all winter...I'll just use the NAM and ignore all posts that have the letters G, F, and S in them :whistle: maybe.

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I'm going to attempt at an objective scientific analysis of the 0z GFS for those of us in the Western Carolinas:

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(actual scene from charlotte during the '04 storm)

Fun times back then. I was only 13 when that happened. I remember never wanting to come inside after receiving such a large amount of accumulation. That was the night that I went out to town, got a cup of coffee, and walked around for a bit before heading back home to rest. This is probably my best memory of a snow day I have at this time. Speaking of that, Fantasy Land of the 0z GFS snowfall totals amount to this:

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I had to change the title of the thread....its very apparent now this change isn't going to be much of one, especially east of the Mountains. West of the Apps get a quick cool down, but we all warm up over the weekend very quickly and the Euro next week has a strong Southeast Ridge. This will end November on a warm note, as well as very dry for the Carolinas. I haven't had a substantial rain event here since August now, around 2" total over the last 3 months.

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Here is the 00z GFS for Saturday morning. The cold air quickly lifts north and east, bypassing the Carolinas totally now, and likely this will continue to get warmer as time draws near. Somewhere in this thread is another version of the GFS when it had -12 in NC,not too long ago, so this is a classic case of cold bias and also the models missing the pattern. (also, shame on me for thinking Arctic air starting in the Northwest could translate to the other coast)--it did only once, in Dec 1989) The Pacific is still dominating, so take any storms beyond 3 days shown on both GFS and EURO with a grain of salt, same for the Ensembles, they've been missing the overall pattern, especially here and the north Atlantic, and until they get it right in the short term , the long term is probably totally bogus, until the pattern gets more stable. We need a strong PNA ridge out west to really change our pattern--its stil way too early in the year to have help with cold air, without the PNA ridging along the West Coast.

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I had to change the title of the thread....its very apparent now this change isn't going to be much of one, especially east of the Mountains. West of the Apps get a quick cool down, but we all warm up over the weekend very quickly and the Euro next week has a strong Southeast Ridge. This will end November on a warm note, as well as very dry for the Carolinas. I haven't had a substantial rain event here since August now, around 2" total over the last 3 months.

post-38-0-94423100-1290511752.jpg

Here is the 00z GFS for Saturday morning. The cold air quickly lifts north and east, bypassing the Carolinas totally now, and likely this will continue to get warmer as time draws near. Somewhere in this thread is another version of the GFS when it had -12 in NC,not too long ago, so this is a classic case of cold bias and also the models missing the pattern. (also, shame on me for thinking Arctic air starting in the Northwest could translate to the other coast)--it did only once, in Dec 1989) The Pacific is still dominating, so take any storms beyond 3 days shown on both GFS and EURO with a grain of salt, same for the Ensembles, they've been missing the overall pattern, especially here and the north Atlantic, and until they get it right in the short term , the long term is probably totally bogus, until the pattern gets more stable. We need a strong PNA ridge out west to really change our pattern--its stil way too early in the year to have help with cold air, without the PNA ridging along the West Coast.

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Your dead on about models getting warmer. I think this will be the rule rather than the exception this winter as models seem to be too quick in breaking down the se ridge, especially in a la nina patterns.

I know you probably don't want to think about this yet but the dry weather we have been having and the fact that we are entering a strong la nina winter could have bad implications on next summer. It is quite possible for much of us in the Carolinas and the Southeast will be entering spring and summer in a moderate to severe drought. The last time that happened was in 2007 and we all know what happened that summer.

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