Thunder Road Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 I was 6 months old in 1994, so I don't remember those storms. Although there are some great videos on YouTube of the news coverage. It's been a while since we had a great ice storm around here. I seriously can't remember a bad one. We have two gas fireplaces with pilot lights, and an old-fashioned wood-burning one as well with three pine trees' worth of wood to burn. I say, bring it on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Did you see their AFD with heaviest near ILG? That's awesome! no, link me to it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbTC Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 no, link me to it? My last post on Page 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White_Mtn_Wx Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 and an old-fashioned wood-burning one as well with three pine trees' worth of wood to burn. I say, bring it on! I feel sorry for your chimney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbTC Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Here are the codes for the Watches, just waiting for the text. .PHI WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... PA...WINTER STORM WATCH FROM LATE MONDAY NIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON FOR PAZ054-055-060>062-068-069. WINTER STORM WATCH FROM MONDAY EVENING THROUGH WEDNESDAY MORNING FOR PAZ067-070-071. NJ...WINTER STORM WATCH FROM LATE MONDAY NIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON FOR NJZ001-007>010-012-015. WINTER STORM WATCH FROM MONDAY EVENING THROUGH WEDNESDAY MORNING FOR NJZ013-014-016>020-026-027. WINTER STORM WATCH FROM LATE MONDAY NIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY MORNING FOR NJZ021-022. DE...WINTER STORM WATCH FROM MONDAY EVENING THROUGH WEDNESDAY MORNING FOR DEZ001. MD...WINTER STORM WATCH FROM MONDAY EVENING THROUGH WEDNESDAY MORNING FOR MDZ008. WINTER STORM WATCH FROM LATE MONDAY NIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY MORNING FOR MDZ012. MARINE...NONE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wederwarrior Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 I just remember losing power for maybe 2 days back in 1994, and it was brutally cold outside and I had no heat. Still, though, from a meteorological perspective, it is cool to experience. I was 13 and I fondly remember iceskating on the streets n my neighborhood in Southern Bucks. That was quite an event. Lets hope the trend remains colder, and we only worry about how high the white stuff piles up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NortheastPAWx Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 SREFs will be rolling soon...first check at if the 18z NAM was typical off-hour BS or the start of a trend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMolineuxLM1 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 I was 6 months old in 1994, so I don't remember those storms. Although there are some great videos on YouTube of the news coverage. It's been a while since we had a great ice storm around here. I seriously can't remember a bad one. We have two gas fireplaces with pilot lights, and an old-fashioned wood-burning one as well with three pine trees' worth of wood to burn. I say, bring it on! Trust me you wouldnt have wanted to live through it. I was almost 15 at the time and man the corner at route 30 where i lived before was horrible we had mega ice chopping to do, rock salt wasnt even helping for worth a crap. I cant exactly remember how thick the ice was exactly. But try trying to chop ice along route 30 in villanova with cars flying past you at 40 to 50 miles an hour and making one flase step (thank god i didnt) but still one false step and slip down you go right into the street into traffic along route 30. Id prefer not to go through that ever again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billabong Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Here are the codes for the Watches, just waiting for the text. .PHI WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... PA...WINTER STORM WATCH FROM LATE MONDAY NIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON FOR PAZ054-055-060>062-068-069. WINTER STORM WATCH FROM MONDAY EVENING THROUGH WEDNESDAY MORNING FOR PAZ067-070-071. NJ...WINTER STORM WATCH FROM LATE MONDAY NIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON FOR NJZ001-007>010-012-015. WINTER STORM WATCH FROM MONDAY EVENING THROUGH WEDNESDAY MORNING FOR NJZ013-014-016>020-026-027. WINTER STORM WATCH FROM LATE MONDAY NIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY MORNING FOR NJZ021-022. DE...WINTER STORM WATCH FROM MONDAY EVENING THROUGH WEDNESDAY MORNING FOR DEZ001. MD...WINTER STORM WATCH FROM MONDAY EVENING THROUGH WEDNESDAY MORNING FOR MDZ008. WINTER STORM WATCH FROM LATE MONDAY NIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY MORNING FOR MDZ012. MARINE...NONE. So... Berks, Montgomery, Bucks, Mercer, and Middlesex on North. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMolineuxLM1 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 So... Berks, Montgomery, Bucks, Mercer, and Middlesex on North. No also Philadelphia, Delaware,Montgomery, and Chester Counties also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief83 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Looks like they grouped Montgomery in with the northern tier as compared to the Chester,, Phil, Delco group. Interested in seeing how it is worded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbTC Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Watch URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MOUNT HOLLY NJ 835 PM EST SUN JAN 30 2011 ...A LARGE WINTER STORM IS FORECAST TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY FOR PORTIONS OF THE NORTHEAST USA... .SNOW TUESDAY MORNING WILL TURN TO RAIN...SLEET AND FREEZING DRIZZLE SOMETIME TUESDAY AFTERNOON AND THEN RESUME AS HEAVY RAIN OR FREEZING RAIN EARLY WEDNESDAY BEFORE TAPERING OFF LATE WEDNESDAY. COUNTY SPECIFIC MESSAGE: /O.NEW.KPHI.WS.A.0004.110201T0400Z-110202T1600Z/ NEW CASTLE-CECIL-WESTERN MONMOUTH-EASTERN MONMOUTH-SALEM- GLOUCESTER-CAMDEN-NORTHWESTERN BURLINGTON-OCEAN-COASTAL OCEAN- SOUTHEASTERN BURLINGTON-CHESTER-DELAWARE-PHILADELPHIA- INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...WILMINGTON...ELKTON...FREEHOLD... SANDY HOOK...PENNSVILLE...GLASSBORO...CAMDEN...CHERRY HILL... MOORESTOWN...MOUNT HOLLY...JACKSON...LONG BEACH ISLAND... WHARTON STATE FOREST...WEST CHESTER...MEDIA...PHILADELPHIA 835 PM EST SUN JAN 30 2011 ...WINTER STORM WATCH IN EFFECT FROM MONDAY EVENING THROUGH WEDNESDAY MORNING... THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN MOUNT HOLLY HAS ISSUED A WINTER STORM WATCH...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM MONDAY EVENING THROUGH WEDNESDAY MORNING. * GEOGRAPHICAL COVERAGE: EXTREME NORTHEAST MARYLAND...SOUTHEAST PENNSYLVANIA PORTIONS OF SOUTHERN AND EAST COASTAL NEW JERSEY. * PRECIPITATION TYPE: SNOW TUESDAY MORNING CHANGES TO SLEET...RAIN OR FREEZING DRIZZLE TUESDAY AFTERNOON THEN TO PERIODS OF HEAVY RAIN OR FREEZING RAIN EARLY WEDNESDAY. * ACCUMULATIONS: 1 TO 4 INCHES OF SNOW AND SLEET... THEN POSSIBLY A QUARTER TO ONE HALF INCH OF GLAZE LATE TUESDAY NIGHT AND EARLY WEDNESDAY. * TIMING: SNOW BEGINS BETWEEN 9 PM MONDAY AND 2 AM TUESDAY. MIXED WINTRY ELEMENTS DEVELOP BETWEEN 10 AM AND 4 PM TUESDAY. * IMPACTS: THE TUESDAY MORNING COMMUTE IS LIKELY TO BE HAZARDOUS. ALL UNTREATED PAVEMENTS SHOULD BE SNOW COVERED WITH TEMPERATURES IN THE 20S. THE WEDNESDAY MORNING COMMUTE SHOULD BE ADVERSELY IMPACTED WITH EITHER PERIODS OF HEAVY RAIN OR HEAVY FREEZING RAIN. * CONFIDENCE; ABOVE AVERAGE FOR SNOW EARLY TUESDAY THOUGH CONFIDENCE ON AMOUNTS REACHING 3 OR 4 INCHES IS BELOW AVERAGE. CONFIDENCE ON SOME GLAZING LATE TUESDAY INTO EARLY WEDNESDAY IS ABOVE AVERAGE. PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS... A WINTER STORM WATCH MEANS THERE IS A POTENTIAL FOR SIGNIFICANT SNOW...SLEET...OR ICE ACCUMULATIONS THAT MAY IMPACT TRAVEL. CONTINUE TO MONITOR THE LATEST FORECASTS. AFFECTED COUNTIES: IN DELAWARE: NEW CASTLE. IN MARYLAND: CECIL. IN NEW JERSEY: BURLINGTON, BURLINGTON, NORTHWESTERN, BURLINGTON, SOUTHEASTERN, CAMDEN, GLOUCESTER, MONMOUTH, MONMOUTH, EASTERN, MONMOUTH, WESTERN, OCEAN, OCEAN, COASTAL, SALEM. IN PENNSYLVANIA: CHESTER, DELAWARE, PHILADELPHIA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GD0815 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 i believe this has been proven to not be true (off-hour model runs being worse), but it still gets parroted all of the time. SREFs will be rolling soon...first check at if the 18z NAM was typical off-hour BS or the start of a trend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billabong Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 No also Philadelphia, Delaware,Montgomery, and Chester Counties also. It would help if I looked at the other lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder Road Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 So... Berks, Montgomery, Bucks, Mercer, and Middlesex on North. Looks like they kept the whole 5-county area in, and some of SNJ as well. I remember Larry telling me once how Mt Holly likes to keep all of the 5-county area "in or out" when it comes to watches, rather than splitting it. This time, they went "all in". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizzardlover Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 No also Philadelphia, Delaware,Montgomery, and Chester Counties also. Basically the I-95 counties and all N & W ...WINTER STORM WATCH IN EFFECT FROM MONDAY EVENING THROUGHWEDNESDAY MORNING...THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN MOUNT HOLLY HAS ISSUED A WINTERSTORM WATCH...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM MONDAY EVENING THROUGHWEDNESDAY MORNING.* GEOGRAPHICAL COVERAGE: EXTREME NORTHEAST MARYLAND...SOUTHEAST PENNSYLVANIA PORTIONS OF SOUTHERN AND EAST COASTAL NEW JERSEY.* PRECIPITATION TYPE: SNOW TUESDAY MORNING CHANGES TO SLEET...RAIN OR FREEZING DRIZZLE TUESDAY AFTERNOON THEN TO PERIODS OF HEAVY RAIN OR FREEZING RAIN EARLY WEDNESDAY.* ACCUMULATIONS: 1 TO 4 INCHES OF SNOW AND SLEET... THEN POSSIBLY A QUARTER TO ONE HALF INCH OF GLAZE LATE TUESDAY NIGHT AND EARLY WEDNESDAY.* TIMING: SNOW BEGINS BETWEEN 9 PM MONDAY AND 2 AM TUESDAY. MIXED WINTRY ELEMENTS DEVELOP BETWEEN 10 AM AND 4 PM TUESDAY.* IMPACTS: THE TUESDAY MORNING COMMUTE IS LIKELY TO BE HAZARDOUS. ALL UNTREATED PAVEMENTS SHOULD BE SNOW COVERED WITH TEMPERATURES IN THE 20S. THE WEDNESDAY MORNING COMMUTE SHOULD BE ADVERSELY IMPACTED WITH EITHER PERIODS OF HEAVY RAIN OR HEAVY FREEZING RAIN.* CONFIDENCE; ABOVE AVERAGE FOR SNOW EARLY TUESDAY THOUGH CONFIDENCE ON AMOUNTS REACHING 3 OR 4 INCHES IS BELOW AVERAGE. CONFIDENCE ON SOME GLAZING LATE TUESDAY INTO EARLY WEDNESDAY IS ABOVE AVERAGE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief83 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 NWS Mt Holly often splits the area depending whether it is warranted or not. This time if you read it - Chester, Phila, Delco are in a different wording section than Montgomery, Bucks and on north. Difference in timing and amts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbTC Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Map Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptb127 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 To see the Mount Holly folks use the phrase "catastrophic" ice storm is quite alarming. NWS usually isn't one to sensationalize. Link to that? I can't seem to find it anywhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jims Videos Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 I posted this in the LV thread but I think areas just south of the South Mountain need to pay attention to this.. From NWS Bing--who seem to not want to issue watches at this time...even though Mt Holly and State College already have... FURTHER SOUTH IN THE WYOMING VALLEY SNOWFALL MAY BE LIMITED TO ONLY A COUPLE OF INCHES FOLLOWED BY POTENTIALLY SIGNIFICANT ICING. BY LATE WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON/EARLY EVENING AS COASTAL DEEPENS STRONG CAA WILL RAPIDLY CHANGE BACK ALL PRECIP TYPES TO SNOW. If I lived anywhere north of the PA Turnpike East/West extension and south of I-84 i would seriously consider stocking up on batteries and flashlights--especially berks/lehigh/northampton/carbon/schuylkill county areas.... I am hoping we up here are far enough north to escape the worst of the icing and have a more snowy solution... I talked to folks who were without power for over a week in Carbon County from a few years ago and if you could imagine living in hell, a frozen hell, that's what they described... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVblizzard Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 SREF mean looks like the GFS, maybe colder...significant ice storm for Quakertown north. By the time temps get above freezing, most precip is gome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 the reason why chester is grouped with delco and philly is because this storm is going to be a latitude storm. More latitude higher chance of frozen or freezing precip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philadelphia Wx Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Hi Robb. Could you please tell me how to find these? I spent about an hour and a half looking, and I couldn't find it! Thank you. Map Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jims Videos Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 http://www.erh.noaa.gov/er/phi/ on the top there's a link called storm totals now available. The map is updated and often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_AR_ Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 http://www.erh.noaa.gov/er/phi/ on the top there's a link called storm totals now available. The map is updated and often. I wish they did an ice one like upton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbTC Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Hi Robb. Could you please tell me how to find these? I spent about an hour and a half looking, and I couldn't find it! Thank you. Sure, here is direct link to bookmark: http://www.erh.noaa.gov/er/phi/StormTotalSnow/index.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbTC Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 I wish they did an ice one like upton. Seems they depend on the HPC probability graphics instead. Their briefing said ice maps posted and all they posted was what HPC issued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philadelphia Wx Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Thank you both so much! I bookmarked it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokeEater Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 I posted this in the LV thread but I think areas just south of the South Mountain need to pay attention to this.. From NWS Bing--who seem to not want to issue watches at this time...even though Mt Holly and State College already have... FURTHER SOUTH IN THE WYOMING VALLEY SNOWFALL MAY BE LIMITED TO ONLY A COUPLE OF INCHES FOLLOWED BY POTENTIALLY SIGNIFICANT ICING. BY LATE WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON/EARLY EVENING AS COASTAL DEEPENS STRONG CAA WILL RAPIDLY CHANGE BACK ALL PRECIP TYPES TO SNOW. If I lived anywhere north of the PA Turnpike East/West extension and south of I-84 i would seriously consider stocking up on batteries and flashlights--especially berks/lehigh/northampton/carbon/schuylkill county areas.... I am hoping we up here are far enough north to escape the worst of the icing and have a more snowy solution... I talked to folks who were without power for over a week in Carbon County from a few years ago and if you could imagine living in hell, a frozen hell, that's what they described... My Dad just got a call down in DC, they're driving back Monday morning, and then staging all the trucks they can get up there, by Monday night, north of Allentown somewhere in response to what's coming. They're expecting massive power outages, up to a week or more, with at least 3/4 inch of ice. Now granted this came from the power company, and not Mt. Holly, so take it with a grain of salt. But either way, ominous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVblizzard Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 SREF mean looks like the GFS, maybe colder...significant ice storm for Quakertown north. By the time temps get above freezing, most precip is gome. Freezing line never gets north of Blue Mountain. This may be one of the only times we have to hope for sleet, because snow seems pretty unlikely and we don't want up to an inch of ice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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