Moneyman Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 nice qpf graident in WI. Racine/Kenosha area gets nearly 1.25 qpf and you go 70 miles north where I live, and it's .25-.5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Global_Warmer Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 from what I was told STL has ice then a foot or snow from the euro, maybe 15 inches or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KokomoWX Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 OKK gets 1.75 and it should be all snow! wow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundersnow12 Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 The new hotness Isn't that quote in the movie Men in Black 2? lol and OKC is 1.01" liquid for whoever that asked lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 and it looks at 96 on freemaps.com that it is a touch north in ohio compared to the GFS prime spot for DTW to get clocked. but i digress....the PV is in a slightly better postion for the eastern lakes with a touch less confluence.....still though PV burps and things could change a fair bit.....i never trust that thing (the PV). Not really showing it now, but with the models trending towards deeper ul features, I wouldn't be surprised if the sfc low track ends being more NE than E/ENE through New England. Might be better at shoving the better snows northward towards you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omahawx Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 The canadian model is off its rocker now with just a band of wintry precip along the front. Doesn't seem to be much hope left for me here in Omaha, Nebraska but looking at satellite the storm is still well off shore and two days away from landing on the coast so maybe a track further north happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 How bad of an ice storm does the euro show for areas south of the heavy snow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 Isn't that quote in the movie Men in Black 2? lol and OKC is 1.01" liquid for whoever that asked lol not sure, it's something that was dropped by someone in AP back at eastern. Impressive to have b2b Euro runs now showing around 2" of QPF in the area as we approach 84hrs out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 The Euro track is odd imo. I don't get how after moving northeast fron NE TX to western IN it takes a hard right and moves east along I-70 into OH/PA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundersnow12 Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 not sure, it's something that was dropped by someone in AP back at eastern. Impressive to have b2b Euro runs now showing around 2" of QPF in the area as we approach 84hrs out. would be close to 2 FEET of snow with decent ratios....WOW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kab2791 Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 DET: 1.43 YYZ: 1.08 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northernohio Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 Trent looks like CLE stays mostly snow with this run....at least a lot more than previous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 The Euro track is odd imo. I don't get how after moving northeast fron NE TX to western IN it takes a hard right and moves east along I-70 into OH/PA? I mention that above. Seems kind of odd given how the ul features look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pondo1000 Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 The Euro track is odd imo. I don't get how after moving northeast fron NE TX to western IN it takes a hard right and moves east along I-70 into OH/PA? Man, I have been thinking the same thing...I am glad I am not the only one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 DET: 1.43 YYZ: 1.08 Meh, lost 0.02" off the 0z run. Nice consistency. DET lost about 0.38" IIRC but I doubt anyone in SE MI crew are complaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo6899 Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 Man, I have been thinking the same thing...I am glad I am not the only one. Lows like the ocean, not dry canada. Like that scientific reasoning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okie333 Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 The canadian model is off its rocker now with just a band of wintry precip along the front. Doesn't seem to be much hope left for me here in Omaha, Nebraska but looking at satellite the storm is still well off shore and two days away from landing on the coast so maybe a track further north happens. Canadian model is unsupported by its own ensembles. That's usually a red flag, especially since the operational Canadian model has a notable SE bias. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Organizing Low Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 Not really showing it now, but with the models trending towards deeper ul features, I wouldn't be surprised if the sfc low track ends being more NE than E/ENE through New England. Might be better at shoving the better snows northward towards you. good point SSC, that is true trendwise as it seems the euro headed that way too. im riding the ragged edge here lol.....i need all the help. all i need is like a 20 or so mile shift......doesnt sound like much but i know climo this time of year though doesnt favor our area on the BZ runners... if anything, i expect it may shift back south but if the UL features trend stronger, that would be great. but DTW-YYZ looks too get hammered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 Canadian model is unsupported by its own ensembles. That's usually a red flag, especially since the operational Canadian model has a notable SE bias. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo6899 Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 Meh, lost 0.02" off the 0z run. Nice consistency. DET lost about 0.38" IIRC but I doubt anyone in SE MI crew are complaining. Best totals are usually to the NW of the low so I would assume chicago des moines and that area gets close to 2 inches. Question for the folks who pay for the euro. Do you get snowfall maps similar to the NAM and GFS with the package? Or just qpf maps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertSul Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 That's not all that odd of a track. In fact, New England has had two storms this year alone that did something similar.... low pressure advanced northeast toward Long Island, stalled slightly, then moved due East. The Euro track is odd imo. I don't get how after moving northeast fron NE TX to western IN it takes a hard right and moves east along I-70 into OH/PA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okie333 Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 Something I heard somewhere... the Canadian is cold (south) biased, and progressive (east) biased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmichweather Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 Stebo i added up for my hometown MQB....... storm total 1.94 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 Did hoosier pass out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Organizing Low Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 Go ahead and loosen the noose around Powerball's neck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 Something I heard somewhere... the Canadian is cold (south) biased, and progressive (east) biased. Admittedly, I'm no expert on model biases but I've always heard the GEM has a warm/overamplification bias. The GFS/GFS ensembles have the cold/progressive bias. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayPSU Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 Something I heard somewhere... the Canadian is cold (south) biased, and progressive (east) biased. It's the exact opposite. The Canadian tends to be too far NW and it tends to be too warm with it's temperatures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetjanet998 Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 Stebo i added up for my hometown MQB....... storm total 1.94 how much if any mixing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastFromTheEast Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 Did hoosier pass out? Wouldn't doubt it.. Its gotta be tough being the only mod for a region as big as ours.. The man needs a partner, our region is growing by the day and it wouldn't be a bad idea to get another mod to help him.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxsmwhrms Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 Man, I have been thinking the same thing...I am glad I am not the only one. One thing to keep in mind is that surface lows are not advected, they move to a dynamic, synergistic process involving upper level and low level forcing. Thus, they don't necessarily move in a straight line. I am not advocating for this specific model track, just giving some reasons why they will deviate in a manner shown by the ECMWF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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