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OV Winter Storm Threat for February 2-3


dilly84

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Just went out and measured 4.5" of extremely dense synoptic snow. Something the CLE area has not seen all winter. This started just 3 hours ago, so impressive rates. Judging by radar it's almost over with. But wow, imagine if this could have hung on a bit longer.

Imagine tomorrow night. That was the weak system lol..

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Well I just woke up to the phone ringing about school closings. Nice glaze outside. Not sure how much accumulated but maybe just under .25"? Still raining with the back end of this first round coming through. Actually, there might not be a backend...looks like precip is filling in to our sw all the way to the main storm. Really worried about the winds. That will kill us!

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How much snow fell last night across the north? Looks like freezing rain is continuing around MFD area.

Big differences between 00z GFS and NAM. NAM bufkit show temps not getting above 25 with six additional inches of snow, then sleet/freezing rain on top. While GFS bukit shows 5 inches before turning over to freezing rain, then plain rain for about 5 hours with temps around 34.

Looks at obs, there's a strong NE'erly flow right now... maybe that will be enough to lock in the colder temps - weenie.

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Really rampin up down in Texas!

massive storm....i'm jealous...wish it was about 200 miles east

I think the freezing rain threat is over. Looking at that monster chances are it goes even further nw and we'll most likely be dealing with thunderstorms and pretty mild temps. Probably will dry slot by the time temps crash early in the morning as well.

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How much snow fell last night across the north? Looks like freezing rain is continuing around MFD area.

Big differences between 00z GFS and NAM. NAM bufkit show temps not getting above 25 with six additional inches of snow, then sleet/freezing rain on top. While GFS bukit shows 5 inches before turning over to freezing rain, then plain rain for about 5 hours with temps around 34.

Looks at obs, there's a strong NE'erly flow right now... maybe that will be enough to lock in the colder temps - weenie.

I had 4 or 5 inches of dense dry snow. I think people in NE OH have skewed perceptions of snow. They hear 4 inches and instantly think of clipper and LES fluff, then when a low from the south comes dropping much less than a LES storm, people are caught offguard. There is no comparison. Just imagine if all of our snow came at this dry dense consistency!

With the inevitable more NW and stronger storm, Cleveland is looking down the barrel of a crippling ice storm. At least we've got the next 14 hours before the precip starts again.

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massive storm....i'm jealous...wish it was about 200 miles east

I think the freezing rain threat is over. Looking at that monster chances are it goes even further nw and we'll most likely be dealing with thunderstorms and pretty mild temps. Probably will dry slot by the time temps crash early in the morning as well.

Looks like my 43 degree prediction for tomorrow will be low.

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Looks like my 43 degree prediction for tomorrow will be low.

i tell ya what...looking at national radar and satellite it looks like that bad boy wants to go to chicago. Hard to believe it would have to much eastward motion to it. But yea, I'm feeling good about my call that if it goes the way of a bomb, we could be upper 40's near 50. I guess the caveat is if and when it occludes.

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i tell ya what...looking at national radar and satellite it looks like that bad boy wants to go to chicago. Hard to believe it would have to much eastward motion to it. But yea, I'm feeling good about my call that if it goes the way of a bomb, we could be upper 40's near 50. I guess the caveat is if and when it occludes.

I agree we'll see a warm surge, but i think the precip may out run that at first. RUC continues to indicate 1/4" of additional ice before going above freezing.

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I had 4 or 5 inches of dense dry snow. I think people in NE OH have skewed perceptions of snow. They hear 4 inches and instantly think of clipper and LES fluff, then when a low from the south comes dropping much less than a LES storm, people are caught offguard. There is no comparison. Just imagine if all of our snow came at this dry dense consistency!

With the inevitable more NW and stronger storm, Cleveland is looking down the barrel of a crippling ice storm. At least we've got the next 14 hours before the precip starts again.

Nice. Good start to the storm. My wife mentioned that the snow was very dense... sand like.

The storm does look intense right now. The models insist on taking the storm to Northern OH... but it doesn't look that way at this point. The storm is supposed to weaken and occlude when it comes north, and there is huge high pressing down so maybe that is what shifts it east.

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I agree we'll see a warm surge, but i think the precip may out run that at first. RUC continues to indicate 1/4" of additional ice before going above freezing.

the problem is we start out at 30 with very high dewpoints. Heck, the n. IL and IN guys are even starting to sweat dry slot and mixing concerns. This is the classic nw trending type of storm, unlike a storm east of the apps, there's basically nothing to stop it from jumping the tracks to the west....except it's own weakening.

The 12z nam shifted the precip shield so far nw we are now out of the heaviest stuff and on the s.e. fringe of the moderate.

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Nice. Good start to the storm. My wife mentioned that the snow was very dense... sand like.

The storm does look intense right now. The models insist on taking the storm to Northern OH... but it doesn't look that way at this point. The storm is supposed to weaken and occlude when it comes north, and there is huge high pressing down so maybe that is what shifts it east.

we need the high more east closer to the western lakes...it's pushing down but further west.

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Nice. Good start to the storm. My wife mentioned that the snow was very dense... sand like.

The storm does look intense right now. The models insist on taking the storm to Northern OH... but it doesn't look that way at this point. The storm is supposed to weaken and occlude when it comes north, and there is huge high pressing down so maybe that is what shifts it east.

NAM now brings the mix awfully close to Detroit. I think the surface stays cold but precip will stay ice.

Also as an interesting aside, I've had over 100 inches of snow the past 13 months ... yet I have not had a synoptic storm deposit more than 5 inches!

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NAM now brings the mix awfully close to Detroit. I think the surface stays cold but precip will stay ice.

Also as an interesting aside, I've had over 100 inches of snow the past 13 months ... yet I have not had a synoptic storm deposit more than 5 inches!

wow...that's pretty incredible. All HAIL lake erie

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Newest RUC says it doesn't get above 32F until midnight with .58" of ZR. We're going the wrong way! :yikes:

btw guys...im not trying to rain on anyone's parade that's hoping for a massive icestorm....i'm just trying to keep up with whats going on and what i think the trend is. I'll admit low level air is whole different beast and very difficult to forecast. Interesting that we still have winds out of the north...

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btw guys...im not trying to rain on anyone's parade that's hoping for a massive icestorm....i'm just trying to keep up with whats going on and what i think the trend is. I'll admit low level air is whole different beast and very difficult to forecast. Interesting that we still have winds out of the north...

We will have to pay close attention to obs out of southern and central indiana once that batch of rain moves in. Temps are fairly cold right now. Temp gradient is huge!

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the problem is we start out at 30 with very high dewpoints. Heck, the n. IL and IN guys are even starting to sweat dry slot and mixing concerns. This is the classic nw trending type of storm, unlike a storm east of the apps, there's basically nothing to stop it from jumping the tracks to the west....except it's own weakening.

The 12z nam shifted the precip shield so far nw we are now out of the heaviest stuff and on the s.e. fringe of the moderate.

Good points, but the 12z NAM also appears to agree with the RUC on another 1/4" of ice based on interpolating the 6 hours text data. But yeah I seriously doubt we don't go above freezing.

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Here is my latest blurb:

Good morning! We had some icing overnight and we are now in the break till later this afternoon. Will temperatures go above 32? I think they will but the onset and the first part of the moisture will fall as freezing rain before we transition to rain. The models are in agreement that we do go above freezing briefly and whats important it is during the main bulk of the precipitation. I will keep an eye on it but right now I am pretty confident that we will see temperatures rise above freezing during the main event tonight. Be back later with another update.

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pretty stunning shift in 24 hours.

The LAF, indy, and n. OH crowd gotta be sweating. Nothing worse then possibly being taken out of the game in the last two minutes...sux

It's not that big of a shift considering a lot of the snowfall on these maps previously showed all the snow that fell last night. Now that that snow has already fallen it gives the illusion of a much farther NW trend. The biggest loser on that is Toledo, and Detroit might be the next to fall.

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