ORH_wxman Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 We have the snowfall total thread, but I figured I'd start this one for the official records at the major climo sites so it doesn't get buried in that other thread. Seasonal total and ranking are in parenthesis. Most snow through the end of January at ORH on record: 1. 1995-1996....73.1" (132.9"...#1) 2. 1947-1948....67.5" (98.5"....#9) 3. 2004-2005....65.8" (114.3"...#4) 4. 1922-1923....65.3" (90.2"....#13) 4. 1945-1946....65.3" (84.7"....#20) 6. 2002-2003....64.3" (117.3"...#3) 7. 1986-1987....63.2" (93.6"....#12) 8. 2010-2011....61.6"* *still missing Dec 23rd snow data Most snow through the end of January at BOS on record: 1. 1995-1996....68.0" (107.6"....#1) 2. 1947-1948....60.4" (89.2"....#3) 3. 2010-2011....60.3" 4. 2004-2005....54.4" (86.6"....#4) 5. 2008-2009....49.0" (65.9"....#14) 6. 1903-1904....46.3" (72.9.....#9) 7. 1993-1994....45.3" (96.3"....#2) We are unlikely to see much snow added on before January comes to a close, but if BOS can pull off 0.2" from the clipper system tomorrow, then they can leapfrog into #2 all time through the end of January. ORH is unlikely to change from its #8 ranking. However, if they pick up an inch or so from the clipper and the "M" (missing) snowfall data from December 23rd is revised to about an inch that actually fell that day, then they could sneak into #7 ranking. I didn't post BDL or PVD but someone may want to tackle those, otherwise I can probably do them later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 have you ever thought it was interesting how over the last 100 years of them record, half of the top 10 have been in the last 10 -15 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 28, 2011 Author Share Posted January 28, 2011 have you ever thought it was interesting how over the last 100 years of them record, half of the top 10 have been in the last 10 -15 years? Well its not totally surprising given the string of epic winters we had in the mid 90s to early 2000s and now this one. It is interesting though to consider what caused that stretch....just dumb luck and climo "evening out the scale" after the putrid 1980s/early 1990s? Maybe. Maybe there is something bigger to it, but who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 28, 2011 Author Share Posted January 28, 2011 BTW the lowest seasonal total on that list was 65.9" for BOS and 84.7" for ORH...and BOS is already 11" ahead of '08-'09 at this time which was the season that recorded 65.9". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 BTW the lowest seasonal total on that list was 65.9" for BOS and 84.7" for ORH...and BOS is already 11" ahead of '08-'09 at this time which was the season that recorded 65.9". I still think you have a shot at 95/96 entire season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 Well its not totally surprising given the string of epic winters we had in the mid 90s to early 2000s and now this one. It is interesting though to consider what caused that stretch....just dumb luck and climo "evening out the scale" after the putrid 1980s/early 1990s? Maybe. Maybe there is something bigger to it, but who knows. Wouldn't changes in where they record the data also have a slight impact? How long have they used Logan or ORH as an official station? Not saying it would be that much different, but statistically it could change a bit... If anything, for BOS, it might be even more glaring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 28, 2011 Author Share Posted January 28, 2011 Wouldn't changes in where they record the data also have a slight impact? How long have they used Logan or ORH as an official station? Not saying it would be that much different, but statistically it could change a bit... If anything, for BOS, it might be even more glaring. ORH airport has been the site since 1948 and Logan airport I think since the 1930s? I'd have to double check for them. Probably the more interesting part of the list is none of the epic 1960s winters are on there. We see some 1940s winters on there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 Why didn't you include BDL? Were breaking records like piñatas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 ORH airport has been the site since 1948 and Logan airport I think since the 1930s? I'd have to double check for them. Probably the more interesting part of the list is none of the epic 1960s winters are on there. We see some 1940s winters on there. Some of the better 1960s winters were more back-loaded, 61-62, 66-67, 68-69. 66-67 had 77" from Feb 1 on at ORH, tops for any 2nd half, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Miser Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 Will, I know it might be alot of work, but can you put the seasonal totals next to those Jaunary numbers that you listed, and maybe even do a rank of the total winter for that year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 28, 2011 Author Share Posted January 28, 2011 Will, I know it might be alot of work, but can you put the seasonal totals next to those Jaunary numbers that you listed, and maybe even do a rank of the total winter for that year? Updated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 Updated. 1717 or bust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 Why didn't you include BDL? Were breaking records like piñatas. Cuz they are liar liar panties on fire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 BTW the lowest seasonal total on that list was 65.9" for BOS and 84.7" for ORH...and BOS is already 11" ahead of '08-'09 at this time which was the season that recorded 65.9". I would be please as punch if ORH wound up with >84.7"... I would probably have close to that (although they are ahead of me by a bit) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 Will, what were totals like by the end of Jan '93 at ORH?? It's gotta be close to that top 8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Miser Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 Updated. Nice. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 28, 2011 Author Share Posted January 28, 2011 Will, what were totals like by the end of Jan '93 at ORH?? It's gotta be close to that top 8. 54.5"...its something like 11th place I think. That year put up 44.1" in March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 Hopefully in Feb we can keep this going, or at least get a big dump or 2...then there is Ray's March Mauler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 54.5"...its something like 11th place I think. That year put up 44.1" in March. Yeah I knew March was epic for you guys, but I forgot January slowed the pace a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 54.5"...its something like 11th place I think. That year put up 44.1" in March. 71 left to go was 83 the other day, pick up a fanny pack 12 next week, down to 59, put up a 20 rest of Feb then a 40 spot in March and there ya go, new record with a much more significant long lasting winter. Can see it happening, not even counting the April elevation events you get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 28, 2011 Author Share Posted January 28, 2011 71 left to go was 83 the other day, pick up a fanny pack 12 next week, down to 59, put up a 20 rest of Feb then a 40 spot in March and there ya go, new record with a much more significant long lasting winter. Can see it happening, not even counting the April elevation events you get. We'll almost certainly need a big April to threaten the record. Nevermind already big totals for February and March. 133" is a tough mark to get to. April 1996 had double barrel lows that gave over 20". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 We'll almost certainly need a big April to threaten the record. Nevermind already big totals for February and March. 133" is a tough mark to get to. April 1996 had double barrel lows that gave over 20". I can see you getting 40 this year in March, what are your snows in March in Mod- strong Nina years, what were they in 1971 for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 28, 2011 Author Share Posted January 28, 2011 I can see you getting 40 this year in March, what are your snows in March in Mod- strong Nina years, what were they in 1971 for example. 1971 had 12.1" in March and 7.8" in April. So nothing amazing. 1956 was awesome though with 35.4" in March and 11.3" in April. Also had 21.7" in Feb 1956. If we had that type of ending, we'd end up with about 125-130" which would be just shy of the record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 Will do they have 1917 records for BOS for FeB March Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 28, 2011 Author Share Posted January 28, 2011 Will do they have 1917 records for BOS for FeB March BOS for 1917... Feb: 8.9" Mar: 12.9" Apr: 9.1" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 BOS for 1917... Feb: 8.9" Mar: 12.9" Apr: 9.1" Thanks so ORH figure doubled that and some, sweet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bates Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 have you ever thought it was interesting how over the last 100 years of them record, half of the top 10 have been in the last 10 -15 years? I'm not saying it applies or is the cause, so everyone please stay calm. But isn't it also interesting that this period just happens to coincide precisely with when NOAA changed the official snow measurement guidelines and methods -- 1997. That's when the whole mess with the clearing off method every 6 hours went into effect (at least the option for doing so, which only adds to the confusion). Hmmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 I'm not saying it applies or is the cause, so everyone please stay calm. But isn't it also interesting that this period just happens to coincide precisely with when NOAA changed the official snow measurement guidelines and methods -- 1997. That's when the whole mess with the clearing off method every 6 hours went into effect (at least the option for doing so, which only adds to the confusion). Hmmm. I have been measuring snow the same way since I was 22, now 54, my data coincides with Wills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted February 11, 2011 Author Share Posted February 11, 2011 Here's the totals so far...I posted this in another thread, but I know I'll be able to find these a lot easier in this thread in a search later....here is where we stand as of Feb 10th...the rankings are NOT season-to-date....these are overall...so Boston is already basically guaranteed to get top 10 snowiest winter on record. ORH has a lot more work to do, but is likely to get top 15 if they don't totally sh** the bed from here on out. 10th place need another 19" or so which is less than climo from here on out (climo is about 28") BOS is much better suited to crack into the top dogs than ORH right now...though ORH has much higher potential of a big March than BOS: Top 10 seasons: BOS: 1. 1995-1996...107.6" 2. 1993-1994...96.3" 3. 1947-1958...89.2" 4. 2004-2005...86.6" 5. 1977-1978...85.1" 6. 1992-1993...83.9" 7. 1916-1917...79.2" 8. 1919-1920...73.4" 9. 1903-1904...72.9" 10. 2002-2003...71.3" 11. 2010-2011...71.2" ORH: 1. 1995-1996...132.9" 2. 1992-1993...120.1" 3. 2002-2003...117.3" 4. 2004-2005...114.3" 5. 1960-1961...104.3" 6. 2000-2001...102.1" 7. 1993-1994...100.2" 8. 1971-1972...99.3" 9. 1947-1948...98.5" 10. 1957-1958...97.5" 26. 2010-2011...78.6" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turtle Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 Speaking of records... Here's something interesting that was sent yesterday for BDL... RECORD EVENT REPORT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TAUNTON MA 1035 AM EST THU FEB 10 2011 ...JANUARY 2011 WAS THE SNOWIEST JANUARY AND SNOWIEST MONTH ON RECORD AT BRADLEY INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT IN WINDSOR LOCKS CT... JANUARY 2011 SNOW TOTALED 54.3 INCHES AT BRADLEY INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT IN WINDSOR LOCKS CONNECTICUT. THIS BREAKS THE JANUARY RECORD 43.1 INCHES SET IN 1996. THE PREVIOUS SNOWIEST MONTH ON RECORD WAS 45.3 INCHES SET IN DECEMBER 1945. THE DAILY SNOW TOTAL FOR 1/8/11 HAS BEEN CORRECTED TO 3.4 INCHES. OFFICIAL RECORDS HAVE BEEN KEPT IN THE HARTFORD AREA SINCE 1905. Interesting, eh? --Turtle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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