ski MRG Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 You're unfortunately too far north. The past 3 seasons I've watched most snow shower activity with any lakes association always target Pete's area. Not sure why but it's got to be topography. It's the sacrifices I make in the name of Ullr paying dividends. (Actually I think the orientation of the Mohawk valley assisting in the alignment.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski MRG Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 Here comes Will to call my snow rotten.lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 You're unfortunately too far north. The past 3 seasons I've watched most snow shower activity with any lakes association always target Pete's area. Not sure why but it's got to be topography. He's (MPM) too far east of the spine...its about the proximity to the spine of the Berkshires. The spine gets the most from lake effect and Pete's area is close enough to get some of the "umbrella effect"...the leftover flakes as the streamer completely dies as it downslopes on the east side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 You're unfortunately too far north. The past 3 seasons I've watched most snow shower activity with any lakes association always target Pete's area. Not sure why but it's got to be topography. On the bright side, you and I benefit from those bands that ride along the RT 2 corridor during slow moving coastal storms and we get good help from the Monadnocks during overunning events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 He's (MPM) too far east of the spine...its about the proximity to the spine of the Berkshires. The spine gets the most from lake effect and Pete's area is close enough to get some of the "umbrella effect"...the leftover flakes as the streamer completely dies as it downslopes on the east side. Gotcha'. Thanks. It does seem that the southern Berks do better with this type of streamer - is that just my imagination? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 LOL..that is not a windex squall..Steve is obsessed with those Really, what is it, looks convective to me, hmm check some obs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 Really, what is it, looks convective to me, hmm check some obs. They're instability snowshowers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 Gotcha'. Thanks. It does seem that the southern Berks do better with this type of streamer - is that just my imagination? No its not, they do have a better trajectory angle to lake onatrio than further north....when you get a 300ish flow, that is aiming at the southern Berkshires. So leftover streamers will hit that area most directly and regenerate on the upslope. The 300 type flow starts to promote a bit more multi band which lets the streamers get further away from the lake than a more confined 270-290 flow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski MRG Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 They're instability snowshowers :Looks fairly well organized, wouldn't instability showers have a more scattered sig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted November 27, 2010 Author Share Posted November 27, 2010 You're unfortunately too far north. The past 3 seasons I've watched most snow shower activity with any lakes association always target Pete's area. Not sure why but it's got to be topography. It think it's more trajectory than topography that gets him. Its'a straight sw ine from Onario toward him wrt to things come from the lakes. We need a tad mor of a westerly trajectory which is less ideal. Still works, but not as good. Didi you make it to SF last night? 32.7 flurrying again.. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 They're instability snowshowers OMG are you looking at the same thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski MRG Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 OMG are you looking at the same thing? lol, that's what I thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 OMG are you looking at the same thing? Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 It think it's more trajectory than topography that gets him. Its'a straight sw ine from Onario toward him wrt to things come from the lakes. We need a tad mor of a westerly trajectory which is less ideal. Still works, but not as good. Didi you make it to SF last night? 32.7 flurrying again.. . Yeah, it's amazing how those types of showers travel almost a straight line towards that part of the Berks. I was in Shelburne Falls but not until after 8 b/c I needed to help the wifey with the breakdown at her workshop. The stray flake comes down about every 5 minutes here - lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 Instability COLD POOL ALOFT ADVECTS OVER NEW ENGLAND DESTABILIZING THE AIRMASS AND PROMOTING MIXING TO AROUND 5000 FEET AGL. FIRST CONCERN...CLOUDS. MODEL TIME-SECTIONS SHOW SUFFICIENT CLOUD LEVEL MOISTURE /800 MB TO 900 MB/ FOR CLOUDS. THIS MOISTURE REACHES TO THE SOUTH COAST...SO ALL AREAS SHOULD SEE CLOUDS EITHER IN PLACE OR DEVELOPING. SUFFICIENT CYCLONIC FLOW CROSSING AT 18Z FOR AT LEAST WIDELY SCATTERED RAIN/SNOW SHOWERS IN NH AND NORTHERN MASS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted November 27, 2010 Author Share Posted November 27, 2010 Yeah, it's amazing how those types of showers travel almost a straight line towards that part of the Berks. I was in Shelburne Falls but not until after 8 b/c I needed to help the wifey with the breakdown at her workshop. The stray flake comes down about every 5 minutes here - lol. Note a "T" for the day:). I was looking at my neighbor's stuff in his gallery. I love that he has something in there for $98k. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted November 27, 2010 Author Share Posted November 27, 2010 On the bright side, you and I benefit from those bands that ride along the RT 2 corridor during slow moving coastal storms and we get good help from the Monadnocks during overunning events. It's not an accident that the highways lead the same paths of frequent weather movements. They cut the roads through the paths of least resistance. So, you see the lake effect bands frequently taking a trajectory similar to the NY Thruway/Mass pike. Similarly, you have those Rt. 2 bands you mention and the oft mentioned "north of the pike"/"west of 495/128" references that impact temp profiles. I'm sure I will be corrected if I'm off on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 Even E and NE Jay does better than Mansfield because the terrain to the E and NE is pretty flat around Jay while Mansfield has 2000-2500 ft hills east of them. How much does the Mansfield Stake have now anyway? Yeah to our east we actually have a 3,000ft ridgeline called the "Worcester Range" and on an east wind it sort of robs us of some moisture... but there's enough miles of flat ground between us and that ridgeline that we do upslope a bit from that direction, too. Personally, I think being the highest mountain around doesn't hurt in any situation, and a SE flow does great, but we may take a hit on an easterly flow from the Worcesters. Stake: 1" as of 5pm yesterday... probably 3-4" now. We were down to bare ground, then got 1" of snow/sleet/ice at the summit yesterday morning. Heavy snow here at the mountain... heaviest snow I've seen yet this season, easily under 1/4 mile with these squalls. Pushing 2" at the base now and 3" at the top so far today. People on vacation though are loving this heavy snow... getting everyone in the winter spirit. Great, great atmosphere and mood up here today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherMA Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 temp was up to 40.1 earlier, down to 37.8/19 now. Nice cold late fall day. Some snow would make it better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 For all you weenies out there... I hope you get squalls like this soon. Visibility is like 100 feet right now in massive dendrites and 30mph winds. This is what we live for... 1" new in the last half hour at 1,500ft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nutmegfriar Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 For all you weenies out there... I hope you get squalls like this soon. Visibility is like 100 feet right now in massive dendrites and 30mph winds. This is what we live for... 1" new in the last half hour at 1,500ft. http://www.stowe.com/mountain/webcam.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 Instability COLD POOL ALOFT ADVECTS OVER NEW ENGLAND DESTABILIZING THE AIRMASS AND PROMOTING MIXING TO AROUND 5000 FEET AGL. FIRST CONCERN...CLOUDS. MODEL TIME-SECTIONS SHOW SUFFICIENT CLOUD LEVEL MOISTURE /800 MB TO 900 MB/ FOR CLOUDS. THIS MOISTURE REACHES TO THE SOUTH COAST...SO ALL AREAS SHOULD SEE CLOUDS EITHER IN PLACE OR DEVELOPING. SUFFICIENT CYCLONIC FLOW CROSSING AT 18Z FOR AT LEAST WIDELY SCATTERED RAIN/SNOW SHOWERS IN NH AND NORTHERN MASS. Hey foolish we are looking at a squall line in upstate NY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snywx Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 Flurries on and off here... Has that winter feel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radarman Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 A couple stray flakes made their way to the valley floor this morning. Second flakes I've seen, counting the trace we got on Nov. 7th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted November 27, 2010 Author Share Posted November 27, 2010 Unless something bad happens (that never happens when it comes to weather), looks like a good batch of snow is making its way into NW Mass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 Been watching the Okemo cams off and on, the last 90 minutes has featured some very impressive squalls, from bare ground to winter wonderland, truly a beautiful dendritical delight in Ludlow Vt this fine November afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 Unless something bad happens (that never happens when it comes to weather), looks like a good batch of snow is making its way into NW Mass. Yea that line of " instability snow showers " is heading your way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 Box might want to follow Ecks lead in NCT, KeV note the words squalls A COLD FRONT PUSHING ACROSS NEW ENGLAND THIS SATURDAY AFTERNOON IS ACCOMPANIED BY VERY HEAVY SNOW SQUALLS. EVEN THOUGH THESE SQUALLS ONLY LAST 10 TO 30 MINUTES AT ANY GIVEN LOCATION...THEY DROP VISIBILITIES TO NEAR ZERO IN HEAVY SNOW AND BLOWING SNOW WITH WINDS GUSTING UP TO 35 MPH. IN ADDITION...ROADS BECOME ICY ALMOST IMMEDIATELY AT LOCATIONS THAT ARE ABOVE FREEZING BEFORE THE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKpowdah Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 can somebody PLEASE drop a bomb on Vermont and make it into a lake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 can somebody PLEASE drop a bomb on Vermont and make it into a lake And at the same time, hopefully that pushes the coastal plain up 1200ft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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