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Feb 1-2 Upstate NY / North Country Major Winter Storm


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INTERESTING STAT...SNOWFALL LATE THIS AFTERNOON AND EVENING HAS BEEN

ABOUT AS MUCH AS WE HAD DURING THE "STORM" EARLY THIS MORNING.

ABOUT 3 INCHES OF FLUFFY SNOW HAS FALLEN HERE SINCE ABOUT 4

PM...WHILE ONLY 3-4 INCHES FELL EARLY THIS MORNING. THIS BRINGS

DAYLONG TOTALS UP INTO 6-7 INCH RANGE. THE 6.7 INCHES AT BUFFALO

AS OF 10 PM IS ACTUALLY THE GREATEST SINGLE DAILY SNOWFALL TOTAL

THIS ENTIRE WINTER!

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Well, I guess officially the storm was a bust for Ottawa even though it didn't feel like a bust. It felt like and overperformer! How the ycan call this less than 6" is beyond me. I shoveled twice! You practically have to trudge through the unplowed sidewalks. On the local Montreal news they're saying Montreal got between 8-10". How on earth did Ottawa supposedly get shafted?

This reminds me of December17,2005 and January 21,2006. All indications were that Ottawa got hammered in 2005 with many buses getting stuck in the snow. Yet the airport only recorded 8", while Montreal had a storm that rivaled that of March 1971. January 21,2006 was much like today, although the airport only recorded 6.5"

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Well, I guess officially the storm was a bust for Ottawa even though it didn't feel like a bust. It felt like and overperformer! How the ycan call this less than 6" is beyond me. I shoveled twice! You practically have to trudge through the unplowed sidewalks. On the local Montreal news they're saying Montreal got between 8-10". How on earth did Ottawa supposedly get shafted?

This reminds me of December17,2005 and January 21,2006. All indications were that Ottawa got hammered in 2005 with many buses getting stuck in the snow. Yet the airport only recorded 8", while Montreal had a storm that rivaled that of March 1971. January 21,2006 was much like today, although the airport only recorded 6.5"

Ya, that's about right.. I live in the heart of downtown, and we easily got anywhere between 8 and 10 inches.. I'm curious what the final tally will be at the airport.. As for your neck of the woods, I have a friend who lives in Ottawa, and he told me that he figures that he got about 8 inches of snow..

Cheers,

Scratch

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Ya, that's about right.. I live in the heart of downtown, and we easily got anywhere between 8 and 10 inches.. I'm curious what the final tally will be at the airport.. As for your neck of the woods, I have a friend who lives in Ottawa, and he told me that he figures that he got about 8 inches of snow..

Cheers,

Scratch

8" sounds about right. EC is on crack with their 4-5".

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Yeah......I walked through the backyard with the ladder to get some snow off the roof edge and the depth averaged just below my knees. And yes, you got a bit over an inch more than me for the combined last 2 days...........But your inch more here and there is starting to add up :gun_bandana:

Snow depth envy...what a shame.

you're on fire today

It didn't help none of the snow melted.

Yes he is....I hear he will be having a show in Vegas :whistle:

I'm going to shave my legs and dress up in one them showgirl outfits.

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Well wrapping this one up from Redfield! Wasn't here for Round 1 so not sure how much but dont think more than a couple inches. About 5" or 6" Round 2. I didn't measure as diligently as normal due to severe dissppointment HA!

Hey but all in all worth the trip. I got to meet Huff and spend time with my son!

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The airports official observation is 11mm of precip, and 17.2 cms of snow. It is still less...the state of the roads and sidewalks which were not cleaned clearly indicate more than 20 (8" +).

A system like that in the US (multiple spotters and observers) might be worthwhile, especially for cities that are large in area. Have multiple observations from different parts (forums like these are a good indication there won't be any shortage of volunteers!)

On a side note, I might add the media was exceptionally biased in reporting the storm....they take an underlying assumption that everybody hates snow and winter, and thus reports like "Ottawa dodges bullet" surface. We didn't. And many people like winter, cold and snow, so it might be better to have a neutral tone to articles...after all, it is supposed to be objective news, not opinionated drivel!

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AWCN11 CWTO 030705

Weather summary for all of Southern Ontario and

The national Capital region

Issued by Environment Canada Toronto at 2:04 AM EST Thursday 3

February 2011.

Updated storm reports.

-------------------------------------------------------------

==weather event discussion==

The low pressure centre which tracked across the lower Great Lakes

Is over the Atlantic early this morning. Much of southern and

Eastern Ontario received a wide swath of snow Tuesday night and

Wednesday February second. Brisk to strong northeast winds

accompanied the snow reducing visibilities significantly. Blizzard

conditions affected some areas including Hamilton with 8 hours of

blizzard conditions, with near blizzard conditions in nearby regions.

Even Wiarton willie was snow-bound, and didn't see his shadow, but

graciously provided a snow observation.

The table below shows the total snowfall amounts and wind gusts

received by Environment Canada as of 10 PM Wednesday. Snowfall

amounts are difficult to measure where heavy winds accompanied the

snow. Those observations are indicated as estimated amounts.

-------------------------------------------------------------

Location snowfall amounts (cm)

Windsor airport 22

London airport 19

Sarnia 15-20 (estimate)

Kingsville 20

Thornbury 30

Hamilton (west mountain) 28 (estimate)

Niagara Escarpment (Thorold) 29

Dundas 25

Burlington/Ancaster/waterdown 23 (estimate)

Fergus 15

Kitchener 15

Balaclava (ne of Owen Sound) 33

Wiarton 23

Kincardine 32

Orillia 19

Coldwater (nw of Orillia) 20

Shanty Bay (near Barrie) 22

Muskoka 17

Ashburn (N of Whitby) 20

N Richmond Hill 17

Toronto 13-19

Brampton 19

Trenton 17

Brighton 15

Peterborough 12-15 (estimate)

Cornwall 25-30

Casselman (E of Ottawa) 20

Ottawa airport 15

Gatineau 12

Wind gusts (km/h)

Long Point 118

Erieau (se of Chatham) 83

Port Weller (near St. Catharines) 84

Burlington 84

Windsor 78

London 68

Toronto Island 67

Please note that this summary contains the observations at the time

of broadcast and does not constitute an official and final report of

the weather events or the high impact events attributed to the

weather events.

END/OSPC

re: the ottawa controversy

i spoke to my dad about the env canada report and he said that in spots there is only about 4 inches while in other spots there are drifts to 2 feet+.

there was a lot of wind, and it seemed difficult to measure.

my best estimate is usually obs and radar.

using obs from the airport, 15 cm is defintely reasonable, in fact its a little more than the obs suggest.....but as you know i questioned the obs all day long.

but using radar, my estimate would have been closer to 20-22cm

i am guessing the truth lies in between somewhere all the drifted measurements, sheltered areas and radar/obs comromise......maybe 7.5 inches?....with a lot of drifting.....and locally SLIGHTLY higher amounts possible (this wasnt a storm with mesoscale localized features).

as far as calling this a bust for ottawa....it wasnt....

env canada called for 6-7 inches.

Don Sutherland called for 6-10 inches

my monday afternoon official call was for 4-8 inches with higher amounts along the international border ie cornwall.

there defintely wasnt a bust here.....i suppose the intensity of the wind and 2-3 hour band in the morning wasnt stressed enough....and certainly the ferocity of that caught me off guard too.

it was a good snowstorm for sure, owing a lot to the powdery snow that was blown around easily by the wind and frigid temperatures.

and in fact, the storm turned out much better in our region than it could have been 2 days before.:snowman:

still waiting for the official report from montreal.

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AWCN11 CWTO 030705

Weather summary for all of Southern Ontario and

The national Capital region

Issued by Environment Canada Toronto at 2:04 AM EST Thursday 3

February 2011.

Updated storm reports.

-------------------------------------------------------------

==weather event discussion==

The low pressure centre which tracked across the lower Great Lakes

Is over the Atlantic early this morning. Much of southern and

Eastern Ontario received a wide swath of snow Tuesday night and

Wednesday February second. Brisk to strong northeast winds

accompanied the snow reducing visibilities significantly. Blizzard

conditions affected some areas including Hamilton with 8 hours of

blizzard conditions, with near blizzard conditions in nearby regions.

Even Wiarton willie was snow-bound, and didn't see his shadow, but

graciously provided a snow observation.

The table below shows the total snowfall amounts and wind gusts

received by Environment Canada as of 10 PM Wednesday. Snowfall

amounts are difficult to measure where heavy winds accompanied the

snow. Those observations are indicated as estimated amounts.

-------------------------------------------------------------

Location snowfall amounts (cm)

Windsor airport 22

London airport 19

Sarnia 15-20 (estimate)

Kingsville 20

Thornbury 30

Hamilton (west mountain) 28 (estimate)

Niagara Escarpment (Thorold) 29

Dundas 25

Burlington/Ancaster/waterdown 23 (estimate)

Fergus 15

Kitchener 15

Balaclava (ne of Owen Sound) 33

Wiarton 23

Kincardine 32

Orillia 19

Coldwater (nw of Orillia) 20

Shanty Bay (near Barrie) 22

Muskoka 17

Ashburn (N of Whitby) 20

N Richmond Hill 17

Toronto 13-19

Brampton 19

Trenton 17

Brighton 15

Peterborough 12-15 (estimate)

Cornwall 25-30

Casselman (E of Ottawa) 20

Ottawa airport 15

Gatineau 12

Wind gusts (km/h)

Long Point 118

Erieau (se of Chatham) 83

Port Weller (near St. Catharines) 84

Burlington 84

Windsor 78

London 68

Toronto Island 67

Please note that this summary contains the observations at the time

of broadcast and does not constitute an official and final report of

the weather events or the high impact events attributed to the

weather events.

END/OSPC

re: the ottawa controversy

i spoke to my dad about the env canada report and he said that in spots there is only about 4 inches while in other spots there are drifts to 2 feet+.

there was a lot of wind, and it seemed difficult to measure.

my best estimate is usually obs and radar.

using obs from the airport, 15 cm is defintely reasonable, in fact its a little more than the obs suggest.....but as you know i questioned the obs all day long.

but using radar, my estimate would have been closer to 20-22cm

i am guessing the truth lies in between somewhere all the drifted measurements, sheltered areas and radar/obs comromise......maybe 7.5 inches?....with a lot of drifting.....and locally SLIGHTLY higher amounts possible (this wasnt a storm with mesoscale localized features).

as far as calling this a bust for ottawa....it wasnt....

env canada called for 6-7 inches.

Don Sutherland called for 6-10 inches

my monday afternoon official call was for 4-8 inches with higher amounts along the international border ie cornwall.

there defintely wasnt a bust here.....i suppose the intensity of the wind and 2-3 hour band in the morning wasnt stressed enough....and certainly the ferocity of that caught me off guard too.

it was a good snowstorm for sure, owing a lot to the powdery snow that was blown around easily by the wind and frigid temperatures.

and in fact, the storm turned out much better in our region than it could have been 2 days before.:snowman:

still waiting for the official report from montreal.

Good point. I'm glad we at least got to 6" as that's warning criteria, and thus a storm.

The big bust was down in Toronto. It reminds me of December 30,1997 when people were preparing for a foot of snow which could shut down the city. The storm missed toronto completely, and Ottawa too if I recall.

Someone on another forum commented that Toronto's biggeest ever bust was January 26,1978. Before my time, but it would be interesting to know what the forecast had been. I guess I should go to the library sometime and check newspapers from the time.

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Good point. I'm glad we at least got to 6" as that's warning criteria, and thus a storm.

The big bust was down in Toronto. It reminds me of December 30,1997 when people were preparing for a foot of snow which could shut down the city. The storm missed toronto completely, and Ottawa too if I recall.

Someone on another forum commented that Toronto's biggeest ever bust was January 26,1978. Before my time, but it would be interesting to know what the forecast had been. I guess I should go to the library sometime and check newspapers from the time.

:arrowhead:

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