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January 26-27 Snowstorm Disco VI


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This feels like the 2nd Quarter of the Pats/Jets game.

Unstoppable heading in. Win seems like a given... then we stop making the plays. It just doesn't feel right... then all falls apart.

Can't get too excited about QPF maps that look like a Jakson Pollack painting.

But no rope and chair here - good winters are full of nickle and dime events.

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Noyes says they're 60-70 miles NW

Not really. And I'm not sure forecasting off ensembles is a great idea in this short a time range (i mean the GFS ensembles)

He has every right to criticize me, but not in that manner.

Ray, I wouldn't bring it up here most have no idea what you're talking about and it's your personal business. You said it yourself, you've grown as a person as we all do in life and that's all that matters to any of us, and all that should matter to you.

I'll say the one thing I do not like is the armageddon CRAS actually looks like the NAM as far as what it tries to do with low.

Did the MM5 come in? Been stuck for an hour or two.

Oh man... just returned from a 3 hour hiatus hoping for an epic NAM cave, weenies flying, 12"+ philly north, 1-2' SNE... Oh man.

First thoughts:

1) Messenger --- fantastic analysis, you nailed the issue of the split energy robbing moisture and shifting the baroclinic zone east

2) How could the EURO be so consistent, not blink once, and be so wrong 36 hours from go-time?

3) The headline for the lay public will be a week of "crying wolf" on this storm... will BOX actually remove the Winter Storm Warnings if the lighter solutions pan out?

4) It ain't over yet... fat lady is scheduled to perform at 1AM...

Thanks, we'll see how it goes from here on out. I don't think the tricks are done. I like the RGEM outline for the heaviest stuff, where it places the .4/.5...will be a sharp gradient east of there. Not sure I really care that much about the Euro.

That's cool. I get to sleep in til 10. Sweet dreams. I'll be watching letterman in Kevin's driveway if you need me.

They are a little nw but not 60-70 miles. Still, better to see that they are a little nw.

Yeah, but the couple of busts this year they were NW at this range too....only to be wrong.

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The WRF 1km is getting ready to do something in 24 hours....

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This feels like the 2nd Quarter of the Pats/Jets game.

Unstoppable heading in. Win seems like a given... then we stop making the plays. It just doesn't feel right... then all falls apart.

Can't get too excited about QPF maps that look like a Jakson Pollack painting.

But no rope and chair here - good winters are full of nickle and dime events.

Good point, especially since we have a clipper this weekend...and the GFS has a 1-2" thing Friday (although I don't know of other models showed this).

Anyways hopefully the euro holds its own, but my guess is that it slides se a tick. Hopefully I'm wrong.

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Not really. And I'm not sure forecasting off ensembles is a great idea in this short a time range (i mean the GFS ensembles)

Ray, I wouldn't bring it up here most have no idea what you're talking about and it's your personal business. You said it yourself, you've grown as a person as we all do in life and that's all that matters to any of us, and all that should matter to you.

Did the MM5 come in? Been stuck for an hour or two.

Thanks, we'll see how it goes from here on out. I don't think the tricks are done. I like the RGEM outline for the heaviest stuff, where it places the .4/.5...will be a sharp gradient east of there. Not sure I really care that much about the Euro.

Yeah, but the couple of busts this year they were NW at this range too....only to be wrong.

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The WRF 1km is getting ready to do something in 24 hours....

That's the banding that could be great for sne. Some of the meso models have this, which could be fun for some. QPF wouldn't matter under one of those.

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Good point, especially since we have a clipper this weekend...and the GFS has a 1-2" thing Friday (although I don't know of other models showed this).

Anyways hopefully the euro holds its own, but my guess is that it slides se a tick. Hopefully I'm wrong.

I'd be pretty surprised if it doesn't tick SE.

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That's the banding that could be great for sne. Some of the meso models have this, which could be fun for some. QPF wouldn't matter under one of those.

Yep, that's the great white hope. ARW whiffs for us, but I've thought most of the time the NMM version does better here...hope.

Scott, the post was only directed to a few of those who I'm closest with who do.....now that fool was bad mouthing Jay. lol

What a sad soul.

I don't really know what happened just seeing the snippets here I'd not worry about it. Too bad Noyes couldnt get you the Ip for giggles.

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I agree, I just hope it doesn't go from 1.2" to 0.4".

In any case, I'm out for good.

Well, just for reference, the ECMWF 1" qpf line at 12z was positioned ~ NYC-HFD-FIT-PSM. We'll see how that trends. My prediction is that we'll see the 00z run go ~NYC-PVD-PYM.

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checking the weenie radar on the nam just to see where it goes to hell and it seems up through 12 the precip consistently moves nne and light echoes make it into our back yard but from 12 to 15 it basically halts and dries out the northern extent and moves everything due east. Guess we'll know by tomorrow morning when I wake up which direction this is headed.

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Just watching TMZ while cleaning up.

They're talking about the veracity of wikipedia. I guess someone used it as a source reference....but they point out that for awhile last week someone changed it to say Abe Lincoln was killed by Heman...I guess some time passed before it was caught. That's funny.

Lol... Exactly the kind of post one would expect the night before one of the most (over)hyped snowstorms this season...

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