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January 26-27 Snowstorm Disco VI


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Don't be a smarta$. How can can automated stations determine visibility? Because the Newport reporting station located in Middletown was reporting a .25 mile visibility and it was at least a couple miles.....What about the major airports? Is there a person reporting the visibility? There are automated reporting stations in our area like Montauk. BID and Provincetown and the visibility doesn't seem to be measured at these stations.

There are vis sensors at BID and PVC.
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It's just the NAM.

Got, for some reason I misread it as one of the sref members.

Also, there is the 24h panel.

Yeah, precip is up to the south coast but I'm pretty sure on the whole, the heaviest is over SE MA on that particular model. It's great news for you I think.

It's the NAM if it didn't fail to launch later Wednesday.

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There are vis sensors at BID and PVC.

speaking of which...this is thread OT but kinda cool:

FMH

260255 OVC001 0 FZFG 19 19 3304

260235 OVC001 0 FZFG 18 16 0000

260215 BKN001 0.25 FZFG 21 19 0000

260155 OVC001 0 FZFG 21 19 0000

260135 BKN001 0 FZFG 23 21 0000

260115 VV000 0 FZFG 25 25 0000

260055 VV000 0 FZFG 27 25 310

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speaking of which...this is thread OT but kinda cool:

FMH

260255 OVC001 0 FZFG 19 19 3304

260235 OVC001 0 FZFG 18 16 0000

260215 BKN001 0.25 FZFG 21 19 0000

260155 OVC001 0 FZFG 21 19 0000

260135 BKN001 0 FZFG 23 21 0000

260115 VV000 0 FZFG 25 25 0000

260055 VV000 0 FZFG 27 25 310

Nice...I'm hoping CON gets below zero with some 1/4SM FZFG tonight. :lol:
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And this from the ALB AFD at 9:55. Wonder what they meant from that last sentence LOL

WITH REGARD TO DEVELOPING STORM ALONG THE GULF COAST...BACKGROUND

NORTHERN STREAM UPPER FLOW VERY ZONAL...SO EVEN THOUGH A SLOW

GRADUAL DOWNSTREAM UPPER RIDGING IS BEING NOTICED ON THE SATELLITE

IMAGERY...NORTHWESTERN EDGE OF UPPER DEFORMATION AIMED TOWARD

SOUTHERN AREAS OF THE FORECAST AREA. NEW CONVECTION JUST BEGINNING

TO FIRE IN NORTHERN GULF COAST STATES...AND STILL WORTH WATCHING

HOW MUCH DOWNSTREAM UPPER RIDGING CAN DEVELOP...AND IF IT CAN BACK

THE MEAN NORTHERN STREAM STEERING FLOW ENOUGH TO GET THE STORM TO

TRACK MORE NORTH AND WEST OF THE LATEST 00Z GUIDANCE THAT IS

ARRIVING NOW. GUIDANCE SHOULD BE RESOLVING AT LEAST SOME OF THE

CONVECTIVE PROCESSES IN A BROAD SENSE...SO OUTPUT SHOULD BE FAIRLY

RELIABLE THIS CLOSE TO STORM IMPACT. BUT...THERE COULD BE A BIG

DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SHOULD BE RELIABLE AND IS RELIABLE...AND THIS

STORM STILL NEEDS TO BE WATCHED CLOSELY.

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Thanks, but these sensors are not very good because during weather events the reported viz. at these locations never equal the actual current conditions....but most of the other sites, such as the major airports...accurately report the viz...Are the airport sites asos?

This is getting OT, but they're all ASOS/AWOS. There is a variable visibility at Newport right now (UUU) so the fog is patchy.

http://www.uswx.com/...c&n=24&stn=Kuuu

The sensors are actually not that bad. Phil posted the FMH obs and they've been near 0 vis for hours.

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I think just that there's no certainties any longer. I like everything they've been saying today.

And this from the ALB AFD at 9:55. Wonder what they meant from that last sentence LOL

WITH REGARD TO DEVELOPING STORM ALONG THE GULF COAST...BACKGROUND

NORTHERN STREAM UPPER FLOW VERY ZONAL...SO EVEN THOUGH A SLOW

GRADUAL DOWNSTREAM UPPER RIDGING IS BEING NOTICED ON THE SATELLITE

IMAGERY...NORTHWESTERN EDGE OF UPPER DEFORMATION AIMED TOWARD

SOUTHERN AREAS OF THE FORECAST AREA. NEW CONVECTION JUST BEGINNING

TO FIRE IN NORTHERN GULF COAST STATES...AND STILL WORTH WATCHING

HOW MUCH DOWNSTREAM UPPER RIDGING CAN DEVELOP...AND IF IT CAN BACK

THE MEAN NORTHERN STREAM STEERING FLOW ENOUGH TO GET THE STORM TO

TRACK MORE NORTH AND WEST OF THE LATEST 00Z GUIDANCE THAT IS

ARRIVING NOW. GUIDANCE SHOULD BE RESOLVING AT LEAST SOME OF THE

CONVECTIVE PROCESSES IN A BROAD SENSE...SO OUTPUT SHOULD BE FAIRLY

RELIABLE THIS CLOSE TO STORM IMPACT. BUT...THERE COULD BE A BIG

DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SHOULD BE RELIABLE AND IS RELIABLE...AND THIS

STORM STILL NEEDS TO BE WATCHED CLOSELY.

This is getting OT, but they're all ASOS/AWOS. There is a variable visibility at Newport right now (UUU) so the fog is patchy.

http://www.uswx.com/...c&n=24&stn=Kuuu

The sensors are actually not that bad. Phil posted the FMH obs and they've been near 0 vis for hours.

it's patchy for sure here

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NCEP, no errors in the NAM that degrades it's performance but:

LOW MOVING OFFSHORE THE MID-ATLANTIC AND NORTHEAST WEDNESDAY AND

THURSDAY...PREFERENCE FOR A NON-00Z NAM COMPROMISE

THE NAM HAS TRENDED SLIGHTLY QUICKER/STRONGER ALOFT...BUT HAS

MAINTAINED REASONABLE CONTINUITY OVER ITS PAST DAY OF RUNS. THE

ECMWF HAS TRENDED QUICKER WITH THIS SYSTEM OVER ITS PAST COUPLE

DAYS OF RUNS. WHEN COMPARING THE GUIDANCE...FROM WEDNESDAY INTO

THURSDAY...THE 00Z NAM LIES EAST OF THE REMAINDER OF THE

DETERMINISTIC AND GEFS/ECMWF ENSEMBLE MEAN SOLUTIONS. WILL GO

WITH THE CONSENSUS GUIDANCE AND PREFER A NON-00Z NAM COMPROMISE

SOLUTION HERE.

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NCEP, no errors in the NAM that degrades it's performance but:

LOW MOVING OFFSHORE THE MID-ATLANTIC AND NORTHEAST WEDNESDAY AND

THURSDAY...PREFERENCE FOR A NON-00Z NAM COMPROMISE

THE NAM HAS TRENDED SLIGHTLY QUICKER/STRONGER ALOFT...BUT HAS

MAINTAINED REASONABLE CONTINUITY OVER ITS PAST DAY OF RUNS. THE

ECMWF HAS TRENDED QUICKER WITH THIS SYSTEM OVER ITS PAST COUPLE

DAYS OF RUNS. WHEN COMPARING THE GUIDANCE...FROM WEDNESDAY INTO

THURSDAY...THE 00Z NAM LIES EAST OF THE REMAINDER OF THE

DETERMINISTIC AND GEFS/ECMWF ENSEMBLE MEAN SOLUTIONS. WILL GO

WITH THE CONSENSUS GUIDANCE AND PREFER A NON-00Z NAM COMPROMISE

SOLUTION HERE.

iow, craptastic model.

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