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NYC CWA January 26-27 OBS and Discussion Thread


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remember this morning when the NAM was showing the surface low over the middle of the gulf going on shore to western florida and how myself and others said that was feedback. Here is the surface low. A wee bit different than the 12z NAM. Glad it came around a little at 18z although not there yet.

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That's a great signal for strong frontogenesis. The NAM was struggling with QPF on it's 18z run. It has a weird area of subsidence where it has the best lift. Wouldn't be surprised if 00z was a wetter version of the 18z track.

yes I was saying that tongue and cheek LOL bec no matter how deep my understanding of meteorology goes, I've heard you and others talk about frontogenic forcing, UVV's, etc enough that when I see something like that (highest frontogensis on the scale) going over my head I think someone whether it be me or in some other location will have 3-4in/hr rates and thundersnow.

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Nice, lol whoever ends up in the black band is gonna get smoked.

That would be me! :weight_lift:

So waiting on the 0z meso models now but it looks like if I don't get home from work by about 7 tomorrow night it's gonna be a looong ride. Unfortunately I'm the MOD with the keys so I can't even leave the city until 7pm. 55 miles = ?? hours

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I remember hearing about recon flights checking the storm out to try to resolve feedback issues. Has that already taken place and has the data been implemented into guidance?

Google is a wonderful tool.

http://www.americanwx.com/bb/index.php?/topic/10829-did-aircraft-soundings-get-into-the-12z-models/page__view__findpost__p__357367

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that looks 18z rgemish to me. The best frame is missing but the surface low postion at 36 and the trailing piece of qpf at 48 look like it would be rocking between. I also think that is 6 hour qpf for each frame, not 12.

it does look more like 6hr qpf than 12....also without the best frame it still looks like 0.6 accumulates so extrapolated it would probably look RGEMish

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Hey John, I use this one...

http://www.canadianweather.org/models/gem00.php

hope that helps.

Pat

Does anybody have the link to that one website which has the plethora of RGEM/GGEM graphics and all that? I never had the chance to bookmark it. It's some kind of web page with a whole bunch of text and you have to scroll down and click a certain link to enter.

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