canderson Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Yeah, the Patriot-News since Saturday had a headlined story "Harrisburg may see no snow or a foot Wednesday". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Iceman Posted January 25, 2011 Author Share Posted January 25, 2011 Speaking of which, what are we looking at for timing in Central PA? around noon tomorrow but the heavy stuff won't start til the evening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 JMA not backing down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Honest to God, the JMA has probably been the most consistent model of any (even moreso than the Euro). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Honest to God, the JMA has probably been the most consistent model of any (even moreso than the Euro). Ya it's been showing this for like 6 runs or so now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Is CTP serious? Winter weather ADV? WOWWWWWWWW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Iceman Posted January 25, 2011 Author Share Posted January 25, 2011 Ya it's been showing this for like 6 runs or so now. OT but did you see the superstorm at hour 192 on the JMA...what a monster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Festus Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 I dunno... From what I understand, local municipalities as well as PennDOT rely on the NWS for info versus the local nimrod mets. So at the moment, they're still seeing a couple inches of slop coming. Now we all pretty much know it should be more (much more) than that. I would think the preparation for 5 - 10" versus 1 - 3" would be quite different in terms of equipment and staffing preparedness. LWX had their watch out for the Maryland bordering counties 4 hours ago. Would those 4 hours have been beneficial to authorities here? I don't know what the CTP procedures are but...oye. Edit: Watch for Lancaster, York and Adams. Better late than never but stress the word LATE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 http://www.erh.noaa.gov/er/ctp/ Umm wow this is pathetic. What are they looking at the NAM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 OT but did you see the superstorm at hour 192 on the JMA...what a monster No i haven't where can I see it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Iceman Posted January 25, 2011 Author Share Posted January 25, 2011 wow conservative to say the least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Over the last week, even in Fla, I have had two of my PA friends ask me about a Blizzard that was coming this week. This storm is probably over hyped already and would need to dump over a foot to even live up to it's expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 wow conservative to say the least for areas west PA TH ETIC! EURO WSW all they way to at least AOO UKMET WSW back to about KAOO CMC WSW Just south of KAOO NAM Who cares JMA WSW maybe to clearfield. CTP nam looks good. WWA only 3-6". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Iceman Posted January 25, 2011 Author Share Posted January 25, 2011 PA TH ETIC! EURO WSW all they way to at least AOO UKMET WSW back to about KAOO CMC WSW Just south of KAOO NAM Who cares JMA WSW maybe to clearfield. CTP nam looks good. WWA only 3-6". i can see areas to the west maybe...but mdt has gotten hammered by all the globals...that should definitely be in a watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WmsptWx Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 WOW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Iceman Posted January 25, 2011 Author Share Posted January 25, 2011 No i haven't where can I see it? may only be in the accuweather premium...my friend showed me...it's pretty ridiculous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 PA TH ETIC! EURO WSW all they way to at least AOO UKMET WSW back to about KAOO CMC WSW Just south of KAOO NAM Who cares JMA WSW maybe to clearfield. CTP nam looks good. WWA only 3-6". You need to relax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 i can see areas to the west maybe...but mdt has gotten hammered by all the globals...that should definitely be in a watch. Counties that should be in a watch are Fulton, Franklin, Perry, Cumberland, Dauphin, and Lebanon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sauss06 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Is CTP serious? Winter weather ADV? WOWWWWWWWW My phone and email just exploded after that adv. was posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 You need to relax. No CTP needs to get on the ball. There are WSW back into Garret county MD and into WV. Is it just magically the snow going to go south then turn back north. What model are they even looking at? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hckyplayer8 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 http://www.erh.noaa.gov/er/ctp/ Umm wow this is pathetic. What are they looking at the NAM? They could have went an WWA a county or two North but WSW? Overall precip. is being cut back (with the exception of the Euro) and at 10:1 thats barely meeting minimum criteria. Hence my high pitched whining about the I95 snow magnet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Iceman Posted January 25, 2011 Author Share Posted January 25, 2011 here's the text URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGENATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE STATE COLLEGE PA224 PM EST TUE JAN 25 2011...SNOW EXPECTED FOR SOUTHERN AND EASTERN PENNSYLVANIA ONWEDNESDAY....A STORM WILL MOVE NORTHWARD ALONG THE ATLANTIC COAST WEDNESDAYAND WEDNESDAY NIGHT. THE STORM WILL LIKELY PRODUCE MINOR TOMODERATE ACCUMULATIONS OF WET SNOW OVER SOUTHERN AND EASTERNPENNSYLVANIA. ACCUMULATIONS OF AROUND 6 INCHES ARE POSSIBLE SOUTHOF HARRISBURG...WITH LESSER AMOUNTS ELSEWHERE. THE SNOW WILLBEGIN TO FALL WEDNESDAY MORNING...AND SHOULD END AROUND MIDNIGHTOR VERY EARLY ON THURSDAY MORNING.PAZ064>066-260330-/O.NEW.KCTP.WS.A.0001.110126T1200Z-110127T0600Z/ADAMS-YORK-LANCASTER-INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...GETTYSBURG...YORK...LANCASTER224 PM EST TUE JAN 25 2011...WINTER STORM WATCH IN EFFECT FROM WEDNESDAY MORNING THROUGHLATE WEDNESDAY NIGHT...THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN STATE COLLEGE HAS ISSUED A WINTERSTORM WATCH...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM WEDNESDAY MORNING THROUGHLATE WEDNESDAY NIGHT.* LOCATION...ADAMS...YORK AND LANCASTER COUNTIES.* PRECIPITATION TYPE...SNOW THAT WILL MIX WITH RAIN AT TIMES.* ACCUMULATIONS...AROUND 6 INCHES POSSIBLE.* TIMING...WEDNESDAY INTO WEDNESDAY NIGHT.* WINDS...LIGHT EASTERLY BECOMING NORTHERLY AT 5 TO 10 MPH.* IMPACTS...SNOW COVERED ROADS. DUE TO TEMPERATURES CLOSE TO FREEZING...THIS WILL BE A WET SNOW.* TEMPERATURES...LOWER TO MID 30S.PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...A WINTER STORM WATCH MEANS THERE IS A POTENTIAL FOR SIGNIFICANTSNOW...SLEET...OR ICE ACCUMULATIONS THAT MAY IMPACT TRAVEL. STAYTUNED TO NOAA WEATHER RADIO OR YOUR FAVORITE SOURCE OF WEATHERINFORMATION FOR THE LATEST UPDATES. ADDITIONAL DETAILS CAN ALSOBE FOUND AT...WEATHER.GOV/STATECOLLEGE.&&$$ DANGELO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 They could have went an WWA a county or two North but WSW? Overall precip. is being cut back (with the exception of the Euro) and at 10:1 thats barely meeting minimum criteria. Hence my high pitched whining about the I95 snow magnet. No what model are you looking at? The euro, ukmet, gfs, jma, cmc are all warning type snows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 No what model are you looking at? The euro, ukmet, gfs, jma, cmc are all warning type snows. agreed....it's increased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djr5001 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 No CTP needs to get on the ball. There are WSW back into Garret county MD and into WV. Is it just magically the snow going to go south then turn back north. What model are they even looking at? Everyone needs to remember too that criteria for a winter storm watch/warning for most of central pa needs 6" or more in 12 hours and 8" or more in 24 while parts of west virginia only need 4-6", etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Well I will still not have a watch this year but, will probably go warning later. lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Everyone needs to remember too that criteria for a winter storm watch/warning for most of central pa needs 6" or more in 12 hours and 8" or more in 24 while parts of west virginia only need 4-6", etc... Ya we know. Most model show 8"+ in like 12hrs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 agreed....it's increased. My head is about to explode. Do we have the only office that does this crap? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSU8315 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Everyone needs to remember too that criteria for a winter storm watch/warning for most of central pa needs 6" or more in 12 hours and 8" or more in 24 while parts of west virginia only need 4-6", etc... Yep, I actually think CTP has placed everything well for now given the uncertainty of QPF, snow ratios and mixing. They can always adjust back if the precip looks like it's coming farther west. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Yep, I actually think CTP has placed everything well for now given the uncertainty of QPF, snow ratios and mixing. They can always adjust back if the precip looks like it's coming farther west. There really isn't any uncertainties. NAM is the only one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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