donsutherland1 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 As some references to the "Great Snow" of 1717 have been made, the following is a file that describes that remarkable episode in New England history. GreatSnow1717.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Thanks as usual. Great sources! An amazing stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 As some references to the "Great Snow" of 1717 have been made, the following is a file that describes that remarkable episode in New England history. Don I work at the Mashantucket Museum and Research Center in Ledyard Ct. We have extensive first hand written accounts from settlers and Natives alike, spent a lot of lunch hours reading those in special collections, they are researchers only stuff but I got an in LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Don I work own and operate the Mashantucket Museum and Research Center in Ledyard Ct. We have extensive first hand written accounts from settlers and Natives alike, spent a lot of lunch hours reading those in special collections, they are researchers only stuff but I got an in LOL Don't sell yourself short. How do the People correlate dates with Western dating methods? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Don't sell yourself short. How do the People correlate dates with Western dating methods? Dude if I owned that I would have my own supercomputer. Ginxy's Geo , you think the GFS spits out fantasy storms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Dude if I owned that I would have my own supercomputer. Ginxy's Geo , you think the GFS spits out fantasy storms? Seriously, do you know how years are tracked? Do they have a system? I always wondered about that. There must be some amazing records and artifacts in your place. And no, you are not an artifact... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted January 25, 2011 Author Share Posted January 25, 2011 Don I work at the Mashantucket Museum and Research Center in Ledyard Ct. We have extensive first hand written accounts from settlers and Natives alike, spent a lot of lunch hours reading those in special collections, they are researchers only stuff but I got an in LOL It must have been a real treat to have a chance to read the first-hand accounts of that extraordinary event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Great work Don. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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HoarfrostHubb Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 This Sweet sig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 It must have been a real treat to have a chance to read the first-hand accounts of that extraordinary event. Not only that one but many others, the 1815? hurricane reads are sad. I used Ludlums book for reference, some of the books I had to wear white gloves to look through. It is a great weather resource to have everyday although I seldom have the time to utilize it properly. My copies of Ludlums books are tattered from the years of reading and retracing, a great resource for new weather enthusiasts. Thank you for doing what you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#NoPoles Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Ginxy, I want to work in your museum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Ginxy, I want to work in your museum! You should seriously visit it. Place is absolutely amazing. My tour guide was cool, too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Seriously, do you know how years are tracked? Do they have a system? I always wondered about that. There must be some amazing records and artifacts in your place. And no, you are not an artifact... I do not quite understand the question. There is an archivist whose only job is to catalog and track. Yes, as a research and collections museum it is amazing what is there. Robert Ballard sometimes stores artifacts, we had dead sea artifacts he retrieved here for a while. It is my job to make sure all that stuff is kept climate controlled under strict guidelines, reason why I am stressed and work ungodly hours, little bit of pressure and a lot of value to protect. As much as I love the weather, severity of any kind is my worst enemy, ironic that I root for it yet it makes my work life unbearable but worth it. I love my job and have the best staff in the world making it easier. 1717 will happen again, that much I have learned, weather history repeats itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 I do not quite understand the question. There is an archivist whose only job is to catalog and track. Yes, as a research and collections museum it is amazing what is there. Robert Ballard sometimes stores artifacts, we had dead sea artifacts he retrieved here for a while. It is my job to make sure all that stuff is kept climate controlled under strict guidelines, reason why I am stressed and work ungodly hours, little bit of pressure and a lot of value to protect. As much as I love the weather, severity of any kind is my worst enemy, ironic that I root for it yet it makes my work life unbearable but worth it. I love my job and have the best staff in the world making it easier. 1717 will happen again, that much I have learned, weather history repeats itself. Like, if an event (1717 winter for example) happened... we call it 1717 AD (or whatever it is called now... BCE?).. what do the Pequots use as a numbering system for the year? Did they/do they have a written language? I sort of raced through the place and need to visit again. Oral histories are great but our society seems to have trouble with traditions and the like. Ballard is awesome. My mom did some work with him at URI a few years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Like, if an event (1717 winter for example) happened... we call it 1717 AD (or whatever it is called now... BCE?).. what do the Pequots use as a numbering system for the year? Did they/do they have a written language? I sort of raced through the place and need to visit again. Oral histories are great but our society seems to have trouble with traditions and the like. Ballard is awesome. My mom did some work with him at URI a few years ago I do not know but will ask the question. The staff who work there are amazing in their knowledge. Yes they spoke and wrote Aloqonquin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 I do not know but will ask the question. The staff who work there are amazing in their knowledge. Yes they spoke and wrote Aloqonquin. Insta answer, got to love FB Steve same as we do today.....before european contact months were counted by the moon...and years were associated with events or prominent people....it was an oral tradition so everyone knew all the stories and histories told around the fire during the winter......but time was more fluid than what we mark it as now.... 4 minutes ago · Like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Insta answer, got to love FB Steve same as we do today.....before european contact months were counted by the moon...and years were associated with events or prominent people....it was an oral tradition so everyone knew all the stories and histories told around the fire during the winter......but time was more fluid than what we mark it as now.... 4 minutes ago · Like Cool! Another neat thing about today is the whole Google Books project. Some great old texts, including info about 1717, have been scanned and avail for you to read in feetie pajamas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted January 25, 2011 Author Share Posted January 25, 2011 This is supposedly a location in Russia ... don't have specifics, but I imagine that might be what 1717 was like Top photo was from Jamestown, ND after a blizzard in March 1966. It shows the height of drifted snow. The bottom photo is of questionable authenticity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitemountainhiker Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 This is supposedly a location in Russia ... don't have specifics, but I imagine that might be what 1717 was like That second picture? Looks fake haha. I would think the roof would be long gone..... But can you imagine having a nice 15 foot base? Great resource as usual Don. Love this kind of stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klw Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Whose model handled the storm better? I understand Providence Plantation was still using the Roger Williams model which had serious issues caused by its wall of separation between the upper and midlevels of the atmosphere and its incorrect SST's caused by oceans of blood.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Whose model handled the storm better? I understand Providence Plantation was still using the Roger Williams model which had serious issues caused by its wall of separation between the upper and midlevels of the atmosphere and its incorrect SST's caused by oceans of blood.. Throw it out, garbage model. 10-15 feet, lollies to 24 feet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted January 25, 2011 Author Share Posted January 25, 2011 Whose model handled the storm better? I understand Providence Plantation was still using the Roger Williams model which had serious issues caused by its wall of separation between the upper and midlevels of the atmosphere and its incorrect SST's caused by oceans of blood.. Perhaps the 30-minute model from Reading, UK did a little better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klw Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 The gypsy moth catepillar model was promising at the time but has always been best for long term trends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collinsville Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 When the Rev. Cotton Mather chucks em long and far you know it was a biggie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 When the Rev. Cotton Mather chucks em long and far you know it was a biggie 1717 or bust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 Top photo was from Jamestown, ND after a blizzard in March 1966. It shows the height of drifted snow. The bottom photo is of questionable authenticity. Looks to me like a dollhouse left out in a nice 15-18" event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 1717 or bust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nutmegfriar Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 1717 or bust Would have made a great T-shirt for the GTG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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