mattinpa Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 On 1/24/2011 at 8:34 AM, tombo82685 said: you can't go by 850s...the problem area is the bl. Can't see the BL on the map I'm using. Looks like there would be more cooling though - more quickly on the NAM than Euro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 On 1/24/2011 at 8:36 AM, mattinpa said: Can't see the BL on the map I'm using. Looks like there would be more cooling though - more quickly on the NAM than Euro. use this site, click your area and it will give the closest sounding http://www.twisterdata.com/index.php?sounding.lat=40.0108&sounding.lon=-75.0586&sndclick=n&prog=forecast&model=NAM&grid=221&model_yyyy=2011&model_mm=01&model_dd=24&model_init_hh=06&fhour=69¶meter=TMPF&level=2&unit=M_ABOVE_GROUND&maximize=n&mode=singlemap&sounding=n&output=text&view=large&archive=false Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 whats interesting from the nam, it has the same track as the euro, but is a lot colder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattinpa Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 Two low pressures at hr. 72? Could that be right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattinpa Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 On 1/24/2011 at 8:37 AM, tombo82685 said: use this site, click your area and it will give the closest sounding http://www.twisterda...e&archive=false Thanks! With that, I'm signing off for the night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 On 1/24/2011 at 8:38 AM, mattinpa said: Two low pressures at hr. 72? Could that be right? i dont see that with my maps...i have one low about 50 miles east of lewes del, sub 996 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 Great run for west of dc. Euros warm bias at 850 might yield the nam solution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 On 1/24/2011 at 8:39 AM, Ji said: Great run for west of dc. Euros warm bias at 850 might yield the nam solution yea i just said that. Its interesting to see the nam has the same exact track but is a good bit colder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattinpa Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 On 1/24/2011 at 8:39 AM, tombo82685 said: i dont see that with my maps...i have one low about 50 miles east of lewes del, sub 996 I'm seeing this map: http://raleighwx.americanwx.com/models/nam/06znam850mbTSLPp06072.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikolai Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 Definitely a MECS+ this run from DC on N. Hr 72 the CCB is pounding away from DC-NY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 On 1/24/2011 at 8:40 AM, mattinpa said: I'm seeing this map: http://raleighwx.ame...bTSLPp06072.gif i hate those maps, they place highs and lows everywhere. For the nam use that site i gave you. its just as quick as allan's site and it does 3 hr increments, plus soundings at that instant it comes out at the hr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 i think the nam is actually closer than the euro at hr 75, it has a sub 992 low like 50 miles east of cape may Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattinpa Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 On 1/24/2011 at 8:42 AM, tombo82685 said: i hate those maps, they place highs and lows everywhere. For the nam use that site i gave you. its just as quick as allan's site and it does 3 hr increments, plus soundings at that instant it comes out at the hr I'll bookmark your link for future reference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 Nice double barrelled low by the NAM at 78 hours LOL...not totally impossible that could occur, the December 92 event sort of underwent that change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CooL Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 anyone else notice the high pressure in a much better position this run? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 Euro did trend colder from 12z. Nam keeps 850 line close to dc for the warm part of storm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottB Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 Sitting here scratching my head at this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 On 1/24/2011 at 8:47 AM, ScottB said: Sitting here scratching my head at this yea i think thats why precip is not as heavy once past phl, it really slackens off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 clown maps for the 6z nam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 On 1/24/2011 at 9:03 AM, tombo82685 said: clown maps for the 6z nam We know why that is bs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikolai Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 On 1/24/2011 at 9:07 AM, Ji said: We know why that is bs Yes, this is more like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 On 1/24/2011 at 9:07 AM, Ji said: We know why that is bs That could potentially occur if the system occluded when it seems to try to on the 06Z NAM but its unlikely the storm would have any reason to occlude that quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 On 1/24/2011 at 9:10 AM, SnowGoose69 said: That could potentially occur if the system occluded when it seems to try to on the 06Z NAM but its unlikely the storm would have any reason to occlude that quickly. is that why its that cold? Cause i was curious as to why it is, cause it has the same track as the euro, but a heck of a lot colder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 On 1/24/2011 at 9:10 AM, SnowGoose69 said: That could potentially occur if the system occluded when it seems to try to on the 06Z NAM but its unlikely the storm would have any reason to occlude that quickly. 78 hours and onward is the reason why, prior to that its just simply colder than the Euro, its probably more legitimate given that situation...the Euro is usually slightly warm from what I can recall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inudaw Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 lol 5" of warp around For RIC??? Doubt that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atownwxwatcher Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 HPC images ICE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tornadojay Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 6z GFS looks like a good position of the low... Precip shield is tight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voyager Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 I'm sorry, but those clown maps are painful to look at and not because of the colors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottB Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 On 1/24/2011 at 10:00 AM, tornadojay said: 6z GFS looks like a good position of the low... Precip shield is tight Indeed. Looks like a lot of the area (via soundings) doesn't get below freezing at the surface until hour 60 or so. That's including any dynamic cooling that we might see. Regardless, not worried about soundings or anything as of yet. LP track looks decent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 per sv, gfs is 2-4 for phl-nyc to about lns to rdg to abe line, then all of nj except cape may co Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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