Baroclinic Zone Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 Wtf? Lol ok Bob Have fun dreaming about your fantasy T-Day snowstorm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 Hey, wethooker has morphed back into BowMehunter lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
free_man Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 It doesn't look like the "east-based" blocking is helping much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 It doesn't look like the "east-based" blocking is helping much. I couldn't care less, just set early December up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 />Yeah that's probably highs in the 20s for you> As We well not you thought, BDL will hit 40 though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
free_man Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 I couldn't care less, just set early December up. Late December too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 You guys all remember this from last year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 I remember my 1.7" of snow vanishing in about 1 hr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 I remember my 1.7" of snow vanishing in about 1 hr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 I remember my 1.7" of snow vanishing in about 1 hr. Ginx is so easily amazed lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 This will get de-emphazised into a few cool-damp sprinkles and a gusty 7 mph wind... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 This will get de-emphazised into a few cool-damp sprinkles and a gusty 7 mph wind... Its all rain, but there are 30mph gusts and waves!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 I remember my 1.7" of snow vanishing in about 1 hr. Fortunately most of the posters here do not carry rainbow umbrellas and pink galoshes like you do. Lots of good snows from this inland. Similar setup it seems. Ray WTF does that mean, point out that just because we have a strong LC does not preculde snow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 Fortunately most of the posters here do not carry rainbow umbrellas and pink galoshes like you do. Lots of good snows from this inland. Similar setup it seems. Ray WTF does that mean, point out that just beacuse we have a strong LC does not preculde snow? No, but the fact that its tday and the strong LC is tracking through Detroit just may. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 Fortunately most of the posters here do not carry rainbow umbrellas and pink galoshes like you do. Lots of good snows from this inland. Similar setup it seems. Ray WTF does that mean, point out that just beacuse we have a strong LC does not preculde snow? LOL, just bustin' them. It would at least be a nice start to ski season for nne, although the mix wouldn't help things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
free_man Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 No, but the fact that its tday and the strong LC is tracking through Detroit just may. It's good, we need the rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 No, but the fact that its tday and the strong LC is tracking through Detroit just may. Circular reasoning, it does in fact snow in Nov, yours is almost a, the snow will not stick because of sun angle idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 The euro ensembles have a lot of spread it seems, but do resemble the op run. It has, what looks like the main low near the Lakes, and then you can envision some sort of a triple point over sne. It is a little colder than the op, but it's also starting to latch onto the storm idea. Previous runs practically had a fropa, and there still might be members indicating this. If the secondary indeed popped into sne, I doubt the 540 line would also end up over sne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 As We well not you thought, BDL will hit 40 though. I was always expecting the post Thanksgiving cold punch to be significant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 Circular reasoning, it does in fact snow in Nov, yours is almost a the snow will not stick because of sun angle idea. No, its sound reasoing based upon the fact that the real cold air will not yet be in place and the strong LC track through the lakes....it takes a hell of an anomalous antecedent airmass to prouduce a front ender outside of the Berks in Novie. I love how you have shifted into hypothetical gear....lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowMeHunter Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 The euro ensembles have a lot of spread it seems, but do resemble the op run. It has, what looks like the main low near the Lakes, and then you can envision some sort of a triple point over sne. It is a little colder than the op, but it's also starting to latch onto the storm idea. Previous runs practically had a fropa, and there still might be members indicating this. If the secondary indeed popped into sne, I doubt the 540 line would also end up over sne. Thanks much for the above! You guys are awesome and I can't imagine a day going by without reading all the banter and of course meteorology talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 Circular reasoning, it does in fact snow in Nov, yours is almost a, the snow will not stick because of sun angle idea. Where's your "heavy heavy low level cold"? Looks like just regular old cold on the Euro as I thought we'd see post-Thanksgiving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 No, its sound reasoing based upon the fact that the real cold air will not yet be in place and the strong LC track through the lakes....it takes a hell of an anomalous antecedent airmass to prouduce a front ender outside of the Berks in Novie. I love how you have shifted into hypothetical gear....lol Kevin's already locked it in Our 2nd snow lock of the season so far! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCPSUSuperstorm2010 Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 congrats me on day 11?? Haha, Phil. I would think so given the mid level pattern setting up, we need the Aleutian RIdging to set up over the central isles. 12z EURO shows that pretty darn well. Also if the 10 day EURO were to be right after all, Cape Cod, MA could be seeing a rare SW wind OES event, just like KBUF sees. I mean -8 to -10C 850mb temps over 10-12C ocean waters = heavy bands of OES. Its just my luck that I am driving with my family to KBUF on Thursday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 Haha, Phil. I would think so given the mid level pattern setting up, we need the Aleutian RIdging to set up over the central isles. 12z EURO shows that pretty darn well. Also if the 10 day EURO were to be right after all, Cape Cod, MA could be seeing a rare SW wind OES event, just like KBUF sees. I mean -8 to -10C 850mb temps over 10-12C ocean waters = heavy bands of OES. Its just my luck that I am driving with my family to KBUF on Thursday. i wouldn't worry. i think your chances out in buffalo far exceed mine here. LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 Haha, Phil. I would think so given the mid level pattern setting up, we need the Aleutian RIdging to set up over the central isles. 12z EURO shows that pretty darn well. Also if the 10 day EURO were to be right after all, Cape Cod, MA could be seeing a rare SW wind OES event, just like KBUF sees. I mean -8 to -10C 850mb temps over 10-12C ocean waters = heavy bands of OES. Its just my luck that I am driving with my family to KBUF on Thursday. Rare, but does happen. Pretty early in the season for oes on a wsw wind I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 LOL, just bustin' them. It would at least be a nice start to ski season for nne, although the mix wouldn't help things. LOL me too Ray^No, its sound reasoing based upon the fact that the real cold air will not yet be here yet....it takes a hell of an anomalous antecedent airmass to prouduce a front ender outside of the Berks in Novie. I love how you have shifted into a hypothetical gear....lol^ Ray Looks pretty cold inland to me, icing is a big concern hypothetically that is. Me pointing out a simialr pattern from last year is now hypothetical? Negative Nellie sometimes you got to think a little outside the box you have built around your imagination, would not take much for a secondary to pop here, nothing is set in stone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 It's fluctuated a little with the strength of the -nao over the last few runs, but I think the question is how long does it last. 00z yesterday was just a hair weaker, than 12z was ridiculous and now 00z slightly weakened a little. I'm not surprised 00z weakened since the 12z run was off the charts with the -nao. Usually, a massive block like that dampens out at the end of the run anyways, but I think the question is whether or not is pulses back up again..or does it continue to weaken. I certainly wouldn't be shocked if it weakens...I think that is the consensus, but there are other factors like whether or not heights lower in the west at all, or does the GOA low come back with vengeance. Maybe it's something where higher than normal heights hang around and then it pulses back up again? The other thing was that models tried to bring another surge of cold south into central Canada at the end of the runs. 12z ec ensembles are pretty cold again. Trended a little stronger with the west based -nao and higher heights from the west coast, north into AK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 LOL me too Ray^No, its sound reasoing based upon the fact that the real cold air will not yet be here yet....it takes a hell of an anomalous antecedent airmass to prouduce a front ender outside of the Berks in Novie. I love how you have shifted into a hypothetical gear....lol^ Ray Looks pretty cold inland to me, icing is a big concern hypothetically that is. Me pointing out a simialr pattern from last year is now hypothetical? Negative Nellie sometimes you got to think a little outside the box you have built around your imagination, would not take much for a secondary to pop here, nothing is set in stone. LOL exactly... that's why I already posted that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 Where's your "heavy heavy low level cold"? Looks like just regular old cold on the Euro as I thought we'd see post-Thanksgiving LOL you told Rev Kev his highs would be in the 20's and that is regular old cold? Besides I am talking about heavy low level cold ya know the kind that causes Ice storms on Tday that you insisted last week would be mild and in the lower 50s region wide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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