Harry Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 The GFS is heading toward irrevelancy very quick right now. You can cry about the GGEM all you want, but the GFS couldn't even sample the long range pattern right 3 days ago unlike the foreign models. How so? And what do you consider the long range? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 Yeah, how is that northern stream impluse doing the GFS was advertising? The GFS is slumping so badly, even the GGEM looks better lol. Do what? What northern impulse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmc76 Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 We need this clipper to move further south to get into some good snows, if its stays to the north as advertised right now, I honestly dont see any accumulating snowfall.. just some gusty winds and very little lake effect, the winds might be the right trajectory but unfortunately the stronger winds tend to cut down on l/e especially form l/h.. Never materializes anyways. 100 Miles more south and were in the game for 3-6 inches. Right now its 1-2 inches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottawa Blizzard Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Why do I get the feeling that this clipper will give me only an inch, if that? Seasonal trend perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo6899 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Looks like there may be a chance this clipper keeps its energy together and drops some decent snow. From what I read a strong clipper would supress future storms? Isn't that the case with any storm that can drop significant snow on the midwest and great lakes? If its strong enough it brings in the colder air, reinforces the block and most likely supresses the next storm. Thats probably why it's so hard to get back to back storms. Or maybe a midwest track wont reinforce the block and I am just used to seeing ec storms reinforce the block. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimChgo9 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Ha! Thursday/Friday... sloppy mess for Chicago... Temps on Friday 40+...... At least according to Jim Ramsey on Channel 9. What a pantload.... sheesh, this pattern sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo6899 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 GFs breaks them apart. Weak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastFromTheEast Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Meh i'll take a weak clipper if it helps out the chances for the "bigger" storm.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 ...What a pantload.... sheesh, this pattern sucks. LMFAO!! I literally laughed out loud at that. Never heard that one. I agree though, and I think most of us in the MW/OV feel the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajdos Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 so here are the first stages of our weakening clipper, by the time friday has arrived I only shall expect flurries from this system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted January 25, 2011 Author Share Posted January 25, 2011 Need to get my eyes checked. I'm seeing two clippers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baroclinic_instability Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 The breakdown into multiple waves is the reality here. There is some hope the models are off on the strength of the upper tropospheric wave--hence the hugely varying solutions between models and the run-by-run shifts. NAM would be way better than the crappy GFS--I am holding out small hope since the detail of the upper tropospheric wave amplitude is a small but major detail. Still another wasted threat overall. Hopefully we can salvage something. CMichweather is already pouring the shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajdos Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Need to get my eyes checked. I'm seeing two clippers. Lol, yeah it's the GFS madness. Remember 10 days ago when the gffs advertised storm after storm for us? we got b.s lol, I'm taking the gfs with a grain of salt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted January 25, 2011 Author Share Posted January 25, 2011 Lol, yeah it's the GFS madness. Remember 10 days ago when the gffs advertised storm after storm for us? we got b.s lol, I'm taking the gfs with a grain of salt. Meh, not the worse scenario in the world. Looks like at least a couple of inches from each. Inch by inch working my way to wonderful winter. Big one would make it spectacular, but like roardog said, if this keeps up it's going to be hard to complain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Need to get my eyes checked. I'm seeing two clippers. The 0z GGEM comes in showing the same... First clipper is a decent hit from N. Minnesota curving down towards IND. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmaxweather Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 ummm CMC doesn't look bad at all.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottawa Blizzard Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Meh, not the worse scenario in the world. Looks like at least a couple of inches from each. Inch by inch working my way to wonderful winter. Big one would make it spectacular, but like roardog said, if this keeps up it's going to be hard to complain. This has gone from a great looking clipper to a crap clipper pretty fast for Ottawa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 The GEM looks pretty good for northern Illinois Thursday night. Too bad it's only one model and it's the GEM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundersnow12 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 have been a bit out of the loop last few days keeping up with the models and with monday being my 13hr day at school between classes and work, Im trying to catch up right now. some images from the 0z NAM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Organizing Low Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Need to get my eyes checked. I'm seeing two clippers. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prinsburg_wx Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 The breakdown into multiple waves is the reality here. There is some hope the models are off on the strength of the upper tropospheric wave--hence the hugely varying solutions between models and the run-by-run shifts. NAM would be way better than the crappy GFS--I am holding out small hope since the detail of the upper tropospheric wave amplitude is a small but major detail. Still another wasted threat overall. Hopefully we can salvage something. CMichweather is already pouring the shots. CMichweather has a shot with the CRAS ...seriously though, very disappointed...i was pumped up for the wind/ground blizzard potential with this thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 CMichweather has a shot with the CRAS ...seriously though, very disappointed...i was pumped up for the wind/ground blizzard potential with this thing. The CRAS makes the NOGAPS seem like the ECMWF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baroclinic_instability Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 CMichweather has a shot with the CRAS ...seriously though, very disappointed...i was pumped up for the wind/ground blizzard potential with this thing. The CRAS makes the NOGAPS seem like the ECMWF. If the CRAS verifies Cmichweather will be taking celebratory shots while Stebo and Hoosier fly to GFK to break some kneecaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundersnow12 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 0z GEM a nice hit here with the 1st clipper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baroclinic_instability Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Euro is a big, flat pile of junk like the GFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Organizing Low Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Euro is a big, flat pile of junk like the GFS. i dont think that does it enough justice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kab2791 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 i dont think that does it enough justice. No, B_I stated it well, most places including Toronto stay less than 0.12 QPF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmaxweather Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 .17 DAY for this clipper... .19 for CMH ,09 for HAO .06 CVG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Organizing Low Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 No, B_I stated it well, most places including Toronto stay less than 0.12 QPF. what i meant was its even worse than what BI stated he was too kind lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kab2791 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 what i meant was its even worse than what BI stated he was too kind lol Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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