ORH_wxman Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Ok guys, I just went back and read the back and forth crap from earlier (I got home right as the Euro was starting)...all I can say is keep that out of this thread. This is a storm threat thread and senseless back and forth garbage is completely unnecessary. The thread moves fast enough as it is during a threat, so adding bickering and off tangent arguments is a real eye sore to those trying to follow the storm. Nobody even reported it, I just went back and tried to follow the convo before the Euro came out. We've been more than lenient in the past so you all have almost nothing to complain about. But we will not be afraid to 5-post anyone who wants to continue to test our patience. Remember, you aren't the only ones here even if you post the most. Anyways, back to the storm at hand, but I just wanted to get that out there. We have an obs/banter thread...this isn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Instead of the south shore having 4" of wet snow over to 35 and rain. Its 4" of snow, and then 34 degrees and rain. Awesome lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxeyeNH Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 So Brain reading between the lines about 1-1.25" for Lakes Region of NH including Plymouth? RUT...hair under 1.00" 1V4...0.50" BML...1.00" LEB...1.00" The gradient pretty much hits VT and extreme N ME. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Euro is advertising quite the widespread snowstorm beyond D10...huge signal and the setup has been advertised for 2 days now...and getting within the actual time frame it's showing the results. The hits just keep on coming! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 So Brain reading between the lines about 1-1.25" for Lakes Region of NH including Plymouth? Isn't Plymouth in somewhat of a snow shadow? Vs other areas along 93? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 The distant interior of BOS has just as much. What the heck does that mean? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted January 23, 2011 Author Share Posted January 23, 2011 Euro is advertising quite the widespread snowstorm beyond D10...huge signal and the setup has been advertised for 2 days now...and getting within the actual time frame it's showing the results. The hits just keep on coming! That would be a huge storm verbatim given the existing airmass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 One would think the needle is starting to pin WRT track but I'm still concerned with a tighter to the coast pass. Seems like a net gain is likely here now though. Boy is that a feigned concern! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 What the heck does that mean? lol 495 belt versus 128 belt. It is significantly buried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Organizing Low Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Euro is advertising quite the widespread snowstorm beyond D10...huge signal and the setup has been advertised for 2 days now...and getting within the actual time frame it's showing the results. The hits just keep on coming! dream year! somebody should just start copying and pasting these qpf maps lol i cant complain, my snowpack is building 2 inch at a a time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 495 belt versus 128 belt. It is significantly buried. No....he means the immediate suburbs, like where Jerry is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 LOL..sleet isn't overcome by dynamics. I'd suggest you invest in a helmet It most certainly is if the warm layer is skinny. I don't have access to Euro soundings a heavy dynamic dump can give you rimed flaks that are part sleet but you'd never know it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Boy is that a feigned concern! lol Mike, you realize that you have as good of a shot at the jackpot as anyone on the EURO, right......don't focus on the QPF gradient, look at the mid level centers. The euro would have another deformation band from hell through w CT and the Berks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 It most certainly is if the warm layer is skinny. I don't have access to Euro soundings a heavy dynamic dump can give you rimed flaks that are part sleet but you'd never know it. Yes the northern edge of the sleet line would be prone to being overcome by dynamics, which is always the case since in that area the warm layer is the thinnest as you mentioned above. But all that type of analysis really won't be useful until right near the event starts if its even warranted still at that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Isn't Plymouth in somewhat of a snow shadow? Vs other areas along 93? Yeah...they are tucked into the Whites and take a downslope from the NW-NE whereas a place like IZG is safe until it goes NNW-NW. I think Plym would still do well on the EC with the banding though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericnh Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 what does the euro show for QPF for MHT ? I do not have acess to that or can not find a free page where I can Get it Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Yeah...they are tucked into the Whites and take a downslope from the NW-NE whereas a place like IZG is safe until it goes NNW-NW. I think Plym would still do well on the EC with the banding though. Yea, the lift you get in a deformation band would negate any downsloping influence....ala Feb 2001 in the CT RV and the HECS last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Organizing Low Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 What do have on the ground now? I was about 36-38" in both 96 and 05 I think. 05 may have been a hair deeper. dude that is impressive for SE MA... or were you somwhere else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Yes the northern edge of the sleet line would be prone to being overcome by dynamics, which is always the case since in that area the warm layer is the thinnest as you mentioned above. But all that type of analysis really won't be useful until right near the event starts if its even warranted still at that point. Yep! Any brief concern about a seaward track was smothered for now by the 12z. We're starting to see a more normal tightening of the thermal graident more common with a track to the BM ( but one that may start further west).... All's well for a quick 0-2" before a change to non-snow, then a change back at the end down here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 dude that is impressive for SE MA... or were you somwhere else? No, he was there.....1996 offered about the deepest snow that you will ever see there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boston-winter08 Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 how narrow is the sleet band depicted on the EURO? e.g., would ETauntonMA / cpick / messenger all be pinging (no rain)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 No....he means the immediate suburbs, like where Jerry is. Ive been to Brookline and your hood and surrounding areas. I think you have more. I also think far distant interior is more you then jerry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Organizing Low Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 No, he was there.....1996 offered about the deepest snow that you will ever see there. that is a lot, even by northern standards a great pack....wow......off the chart anomaly for that region i imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 how narrow is the sleet band depicted on the EURO? e.g., would ETauntonMA / cpick / messenger all be pinging (no rain)? We may escape. But the bottom line even if we go sleet it's not for long. Verbatim Euro will certainly give us 6-12 and if we break just right...maybe more. I like the trend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Ive been to Brookline and your hood and surrounding areas. I think you have more. I also think far distant interior is more you then jerry. I know that...it bumps up when you hit about Woburn, but what Scott meant is that the immediate suburbs have more than Boston proper, which is why he said "distant interior of Boston"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Ive been to Brookline and your hood and surrounding areas. I think you have more. I also think far distant interior is more you then jerry. I never guestimate snow cover. To me, its' either deep or not. 22 vs 16 inches doesn't mean much after the storm passes in my eyes. But that said, I'd have to drive west to really get an idea. Next Saturday will be ideal because I'll come out RT 9 to the GTG and will go through Newton, Wellesley, Natick, Framingham, into ORH CTY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 that is a lot, even by northern standards a great pack....wow......off the chart anomaly for that region i imagine. The only time mby has seen that, at least on record, is Feb 1969.....40" depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boston-winter08 Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 We may escape. But the bottom line even if we go sleet it's not for long. Verbatim Euro will certainly give us 6-12 and if we break just right...maybe more. I like the trend. alright that's what i figured; seems that the warm layer is W to E oriented (as opposed to SW to NE) so that may help us out, considering LP comes up and then shoots east Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 I know that...it bumps up when you hit about Woburn, but what Scott meant is that the immediate suburbs have more than Boston proper, which is why he said "distant interior of Boston"... Okay got ya... but yeah some of the snowpiles in woburn where i dropped off a friend from BA was like quebec-esque. It was insane. Cant wait to upload the pictures I took during my insane drive home during the storm friday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Hate to be the buzzkill... but let's remember we're still 84 hours out. The Euro is a good sign though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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