Hoosier Posted January 26, 2011 Author Share Posted January 26, 2011 The incredible thing to me about this storm is that, even with a track going pretty far south through Evansville, MKE gets the highest QPF total of the major cities, and it should be all snow. Does this QPF amount include the two minor clippers, or just the potential storm for early next week? I think it helps that the track hooks toward Detroit. MKE and ORD are basically in the same boat (or sled). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Global_Warmer Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 St Louis from the EC The -1.9 would be the temp (C of course) and the 0.01 is the precip field MON 12Z 31-JAN -1.9 0.7 1022 80 58 0.01 558 541 MON 18Z 31-JAN -0.4 1.4 1020 75 91 0.02 557 541 TUE 00Z 01-FEB -0.4 1.1 1016 90 97 0.11 554 541 TUE 06Z 01-FEB 0.5 0.8 1012 94 95 0.16 551 541 TUE 12Z 01-FEB 0.9 1.6 1006 98 90 0.15 546 541 TUE 18Z 01-FEB 0.4 -1.4 1003 88 68 0.27 538 535 WED 00Z 02-FEB -4.5 -11.5 1007 79 96 0.01 534 528 WED 06Z 02-FEB -7.8 -14.9 1010 79 98 0.02 528 521 WED 12Z 02-FEB -8.4 -16.3 1013 78 97 0.04 523 513 Been watching this storm for quite awhile. Looks warm down here - but still some time to go. Thanks, def a snow event for the most part. But possibly sleet and zr..bring on winter and move the system south by 50-70 miles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilly84 Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 St Louis from the EC MON 12Z 31-JAN -1.9 0.7 1022 80 58 0.01 558 541 MON 18Z 31-JAN -0.4 1.4 1020 75 91 0.02 557 541 TUE 00Z 01-FEB -0.4 1.1 1016 90 97 0.11 554 541 TUE 06Z 01-FEB 0.5 0.8 1012 94 95 0.16 551 541 TUE 12Z 01-FEB 0.9 1.6 1006 98 90 0.15 546 541 TUE 18Z 01-FEB 0.4 -1.4 1003 88 68 0.27 538 535 WED 00Z 02-FEB -4.5 -11.5 1007 79 96 0.01 534 528 WED 06Z 02-FEB -7.8 -14.9 1010 79 98 0.02 528 521 WED 12Z 02-FEB -8.4 -16.3 1013 78 97 0.04 523 513 That would be close. 2m temps above freezing. Could be zr there or just rain.. Anyways you need to post more beau. Don't see ya around too often anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 The incredible thing to me about this storm is that, even with a track going pretty far south through Evansville, MKE gets the highest QPF total of the major cities, and it should be all snow. Does this QPF amount include the two minor clippers, or just the potential storm for early next week? MKE ( and others that side of the lake ) gets the added lake bonus with such tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisconsinwx Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 I think it helps that the track hooks toward Detroit. MKE and ORD are basically in the same boat (or sled). True, the QPF amount for ORD is similar to MKE with that run, correct? ORD was not listed on the QPF amount post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Yeah at one point ( I think it was one of the 00z runs) the Euro showed PITT with almost 2"qpf. The Euro and the GGEM were consistently to far NW with the Euro caving first to the eastern idea. yup...now speaking on the side for those further west, the euro seems to be less accurate with storm tracks between the w.apps and the coast and tends to flip those around a lot more. Usually, (at least in the past), the euro tends to do much better with storms expected to ride up further west. Not sure why that is, but it's true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 True, the QPF amount for ORD is similar to MKE with that run, correct? ORD was not listed on the QPF amount post. was less., .79 or so, but it really doesn't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pondo1000 Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 CMH: 0.80 imagine this would be all liquid or is there a front end dump of some snow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 imagine this would be all liquid or is there a front end dump of some snow? possibly 30 minutes of snow before a rapid change to driving rain...back to flurries. I've lived thru that track many times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmaxweather Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 possibly 30 minutes of snow before a rapid change to driving rain...back to flurries. I've lived thru that track many times Bring out the umbrella! With that kind of track on the EURO we would likely crack 50! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pondo1000 Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 possibly 30 minutes of snow before a rapid change to driving rain...back to flurries. I've lived thru that track many times Yeah, I hear ya! I got a bad feeling about this one. The old adage: Cold and Dry, Warm and Wet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Yeah, I hear ya! I got a bad feeling about this one. The old adage: Cold and Dry, Warm and Wet. probably due...we haven't had a true southern storm cut to our west in quite awhile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pondo1000 Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 probably due...we haven't had a true southern storm cut to our west in quite awhile Yeah, but we're due too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavis1729 Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Does anyone know if the 12z Euro brings down the motherload of cold post-storm, like yesterday's 12z did? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted January 26, 2011 Author Share Posted January 26, 2011 Yeah, but we're due too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmaxweather Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 probably due...we haven't had a true southern storm cut to our west in quite awhile Does the teleconnections favor such a track? It would be kind of annoying to see this cut west which will then bring the cold and then were high and dry while we get more weak systems and storms that track to far south and east. Were in like in the bubble! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted January 26, 2011 Author Share Posted January 26, 2011 Does anyone know if the 12z Euro brings down the motherload of cold post-storm, like yesterday's 12z did? It's pretty cold, maybe not as extreme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Does anyone know if the 12z Euro brings down the motherload of cold post-storm, like yesterday's 12z did? http://www.americanwx.com/bb/index.php?/topic/11209-arctic-outbreak-end-of-januaryearly-february/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavis1729 Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 http://www.americanw...early-february/ Thanks Alek and Hoosier...I missed that thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 lets never speak of this system again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Btw looking at the Euro, I'd argue this could very much be almost all snow for DTX's area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted January 26, 2011 Author Share Posted January 26, 2011 lets never speak of this system again Fine with me. Very impressive though. I think that was the first time I ever drew 15-20" on a map (not counting LES events) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Fine with me. Very impressive though. I think that was the first time I ever drew 15-20" on a map (not counting LES events) I'm no expert on OH climo, but i'd say he was very liberal in his use of the word "due". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 I'm no expert on OH climo, but i'd say he was very liberal in his use of the word "due". Yeah they are about as due as Florida is to seeing thunderstorms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 The 18z NAM and Euro are very similar with how they're handling the Pacific by hr48 or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 I'm no expert on OH climo, but i'd say he was very liberal in his use of the word "due". a true app runner like '08 probably occurs 1 out of every 4 or 5 years....guessing. Before that we had Dec '04. When i said 'due' i was actually referring to a storm cutting to our west. Im not sure we've seen that this winter, Been awhile since i've watched IN and points west get clobbered while we got rained on. Most storm lately, (if they are apps to eastcoast), are some sloppy version of a double barrel situation or primary that heads up the OV and transfers east. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMIweather Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Btw looking at the Euro, I'd argue this could very much be almost all snow for DTX's area. I could agree with that...just glancing at the statistical output I see 850 temps never get above zero and 1000-500 meter thicknesses never get above 540. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Yeah they are about as due as Florida is to seeing thunderstorms it's relative and personal. If i want an app runner twice a year... then im f/\ck'n DUE....got it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 any news on the euro ensembles?? Harry??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajdos Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Gotta love the NOCRAPS with another N/E storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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