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NYC/PHL: January 25-27 Potential Bomb Part 4


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The GGEM is the only model left that brings the storm inland--and it's own ensembles have abandoned it. I don't think there's much support left for that...but I have seen crazier things happen.

the ggem had friday's storm being a hecs for several runs. it is well known that it overphases/overdoes coastal systems

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Besides the GFS/NAM which model is OTS?

UKMET no?

ECM? No

GGEM? No..

JMA? No

By the way in reference to the GGEM its showing a track that the NOGAPS once showed as its most western extreme...

Counter argument is that the ECM, GGEM, and JMA were 12z runs. We've had one GFS and two NAM offshore runs since then. GGEM ensembles were also mostly offshore. I have no idea which way this goes. Very interested in the rest of the 0z guidance.

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Every single piece of guidance outside of the NAM/GFS bring the system across the eastern side of the Appalachian Mountains..across Land (inland) ..these two models are the only two that are not doing that...could they be correct? Possibly...Likely..no ..especially considering that even the respected means of the GFS..also take it on the eastern side of the mountains across Land.

Too much confidence being put in a model that was not created to look at anything beyond 48 hrs ...

You mean like the NOGAPS? :whistle:

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You mean like the NOGAPS? :whistle:

Perhaps you should learn that the model is used as part of guidance. Once you can come to terms with this then you can come to terms with the fact that the model if used as a tool is a very valuable resource to forecasting these systems. If professional agencies such as HPC use them..then guess what? That means they are part of guidance....

As i have stated plenty of times and it wants to be ignored..thats completely fine but if a model with a progressive bias is further west then some of the other global guidance then...that implies something is in correct somewhere? Either the progressive model being further west is wrong ..or the other guidance that is more east is wrong. Because the GFS is also progressive ...so the reality of the situation is that then you would expect the NOGAPS to be South and east... if its not...then like I said..one is wrong....

Just so happens that the progressive model aside from a couple off hour runs has always been more west then any of the NAM/GFS runs...but the other non american models have already showed its solution at one point and time or another and some continue to show its solution today. as of 12 Z....and those are your better models AKA the ECM....thumbsupsmileyanim.gif

So i guess if you want to dismiss the NOGAPS so badly...then dismiss the ECM...cause the NOGAPS been there and done that for the longest time now ...scooter.gif

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Yeah, that's what I was driving at with it's lack of ensemble support. It's 150 miles west of any other model.

It seems like the ggem may be back to its more normal tendencies of being very amplified. I think the mega blocking we had in Dec and January and the way the ggem handled it caused it to have a more progressive bias with some past storms. Of course we still have 3 days and it has yet to be proven wrong but I dont think the ultimate solution is anywhere near as west as the gge, Id go with euro on this one...

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