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Richmond Metro/ Hampton roads obs/disco winter thread

Midlo Snow Maker

By Midlo Snow Maker,
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RIC Airport

RIC Airport

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LAST BIG SNOW (10"+ ) at ric --OFFICIAL was jan 2000

ORF and se va since then has had 3 of them

numerous 10"+ in LYN ROA CHO and of course northern VA

this is the longest BIG snow drought N of the VA NC state line on the east coast

The January 1996 total is clearly wrong. For the longest time, I thought RIC got 11" from the January 1996 storm but the NCDC database only has 9.5" as storm total.

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If you round up 9.5" it becomes 10" so I counted in the list below as a 10 inch storm beginning with the most recent. So, 18 actual events since 1897.

1. 10.0" January 30-31, 2010

2. 11.0" January 24-25, 2000

3. 9.5" January 6-8, 1996

4. 17.7" February 10-11, 1983

5. 13.0" March 1-2, 1980

6. 14.9" January 4-5, 1980

7. 10.9" February 18-19, 1979

8. 14.8" January 26-27, 1966

9. 15.2" March 5-7, 1962

10. 10.1" January 31-February 1, 1948

11. 21.6" January 23-24, 1940

12. 12.6" February 7, 1936

13. 19.1" January 27-29, 1922

14. 10.4" December 12-14, 1917

15. 10.0" April 3-4, 1915

16. 10.6" March 3-6, 1912

17. 17.2" December 22-23, 1908

18. 16.3" February 11-14, 1899

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Martin

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http://hamptonroads.com/2010/12/why-forecasts-snowstorm-came-short

Reading the comments just makes me want to shoot something

:gun_bandana::facepalm:

As a pilot, I rely on weather forecasts to give me a feel for what to expect. I am finding more and more that the National Weather Service's accuracy is diminishing. Their meteorologists tend to get fancy with met language which is very ambiguous, non-specific and very unscientific.

The local television weather people are nothing more than entertainers who, with all their fancy "doppler" technology, are incapable of arriving at a consensus.

I would have made sure to have appropriate groceries in the house before the holiday. Would have spared us the trip to the supermarket just before it closed (because of the weather) Sunday afternoon.

What did we ever do before computers? Just like with calculators now people used to have to learn the basics.

When the computer models failed to deliver their canned forecasts then they were completely in the dark. Long gone are the forecasters who had the background education, knowledge and experience to be able to forecast and predict the weather.

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RIC Airport

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Don't get too comfortable with our warm up coming....

It not going to last long if guidance is right about the resurgence of the Greenland blocking..

And that is perfectly fine with us! The pattern must be changing in order to reload for January. I would be happy with a carbon copy of January 1893 which was a very cold moderate-strong La Nina season over central and SE VA. December has already shaped up quite nicely and similar to other old La Nina analongs such as 1916-17, 1886-87, 1903-04.

Clearly we are in a different regime now....Miller A storms are back. We've probably entered a period of 10-15 years when things are going to be snowier than normal. I got a feeling that 2012-13 is going to be a blockbuster.

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weathervswife

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well looks like ric gets screwed again christmas storm adjusted

was

DEC 25 2.8"

DEC 26 3.8"

total 6.6"

adjusted to

12/25 2.7"

12/26 1.6"

total 4.3"

I thought that Brian had told us that the total was 4.5". I was suprised to hear about the 6.6". I'm not sure where that number came from.

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Midlo Snow Maker

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I thought that Brian had told us that the total was 4.5". I was suprised to hear about the 6.6". I'm not sure where that number came from.

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SXUS71 KAKQ 270912

RERRIC

RECORD EVENT REPORT

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE WAKEFIELD, VA

0408 AM EST MON DEC 27 2010

$$

...RECORD DAILY MAXIMUM SNOWFALL SET AT RICHMOND VA...

A RECORD SNOWFALL OF 3.8 INCH(ES) WAS SET AT RICHMOND VA YESTERDAY.

THIS BREAKS THE OLD RECORD OF 3.5 SET IN 1917.

$$

CLIMATE REPORT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE WAKEFIELD, VA
719 PM EST SUN DEC 26 2010


...................................

...THE RICHMOND VA CLIMATE SUMMARY FOR DECEMBER 26 2010...
VALID TODAY AS OF 0500 PM LOCAL TIME.

CLIMATE NORMAL PERIOD 1971 TO 2000
CLIMATE RECORD PERIOD 1871 TO 2010


WEATHER ITEM   OBSERVED TIME   RECORD YEAR NORMAL DEPARTURE LAST
               VALUE   (LST)  VALUE       VALUE  FROM      YEAR
                                                 NORMAL
..................................................................
TEMPERATURE (F)
TODAY
 MAXIMUM         30    618 AM  74    1982  47    -17       57
 MINIMUM         28    359 PM   5    1980  29     -1       45
                                     1935
 AVERAGE         29

PRECIPITATION (IN)
 TODAY            0.29          1.50 1943   0.10   0.19     0.26
 MONTH TO DATE    3.41                      2.59   0.82     7.92
 SINCE DEC 1      3.41                      2.59   0.82     7.92
 SINCE JAN 1     36.04                     43.38  -7.34    48.08

SNOWFALL (IN)
 TODAY            3.8
 MONTH TO DATE   10.3
 SINCE NOV 1     10.3
 SINCE JUL 1     10.3
 SNOW DEPTH       4

000
CXUS51 KAKQ 281747
CF6RIC
PRELIMINARY LOCAL CLIMATOLOGICAL DATA (WS FORM: F-6)

                                         STATION:   RICHMOND VA
                                         MONTH:     DECEMBER
                                         YEAR:      2010
                                         LATITUDE:   37 30 N
                                         LONGITUDE:  77 20 W

 TEMPERATURE IN F:       :PCPN:    SNOW:  WIND      :SUNSHINE: SKY     :PK WND
================================================================================
1   2   3   4   5  6A  6B    7    8   9   10  11  12  13   14  15   16   17  18
                                    12Z  AVG MX 2MIN
DY MAX MIN AVG DEP HDD CDD  WTR  SNW DPTH SPD SPD DIR MIN PSBL S-S WX    SPD DR
================================================================================

1  67  35  51   7  14   0 1.33  0.0    0 15.9 38 260   M    M   5 1      46 270
2  47  27  37  -7  28   0 0.00  0.0    0  5.6 12 340   M    M   6        15 330
3  45  33  39  -5  26   0 0.00  0.0    0  6.3 16  10   M    M   9        20  10
4  43  28  36  -7  29   0 0.05  0.6    0  6.5 13 270   M    M   6 1      17 360
5  43  29  36  -7  29   0    T    T    T 11.3 24 330   M    M   5 1      33 320
6  40  26  33 -10  32   0 0.00  0.0    0 12.7 24 300   M    M   2        30 310
7  37  24  31 -12  34   0 0.00  0.0    0 12.7 22 320   M    M   2        28 320
8  37  19  28 -14  37   0 0.00  0.0    0  6.1 15 290   M    M   2        18 320
9  39  18  29 -13  36   0 0.00  0.0    0  2.4  9 290   M    M   1        36 340
10  43  21  32 -10  33   0 0.00  0.0    0  1.4 10 180   M    M   7        14 180
11  45  24  35  -6  30   0 0.24  0.0    0  2.3  8  40   M    M   8 18     14 100
12  48  38  43   2  22   0 0.78  0.0    0  7.3 17 340   M    M  10 12     22 210
13  39  22  31 -10  34   0 0.30  1.1    0 12.2 25 320   M    M   9 18     33 330
14  28  20  24 -17  41   0 0.00  0.0    1 13.8 29 310   M    M   1        35 320
15  34  16  25 -15  40   0 0.00  0.0    T  9.2 17 290   M    M   1        23 330
16  28  15  22 -18  43   0 0.20  2.0    1  3.0  9  10   M    M  10 1246   10  10
17  37  21  29 -11  36   0 0.00  0.0    1  2.3  9  30   M    M   7 1      12  30
18  36  23  30 -10  35   0 0.00  0.0    T  2.0 10 130   M    M  10 18     12 130
19  38  27  33  -7  32   0 0.00  0.0    T  9.8 21  10   M    M   5        30 360
20  40  22  31  -8  34   0 0.00  0.0    0  8.9 22 350   M    M   1        33  80
21  42  27  35  -4  30   0 0.00  0.0    0  7.6 16 340   M    M   7        21 330
22  47  31  39   0  26   0 0.00  0.0    0  4.3 14  10   M    M   7        17  20
23  45  27  36  -3  29   0 0.00  0.0    0 13.0 30 340   M    M   1        38 330
24  43  25  34  -4  31   0 0.00  0.0    0  7.2 17  30   M    M   3        24  20
25  37  30  34  -4  31   0 0.23  2.7    0  2.2  8 200   M    M  10 1      10 220
26  30  27  29  -9  36   0 0.13  1.6    3 13.7 24 350   M    M  10 189    33 340
27  38  27  33  -5  32   0    T    T    4 15.2 31 330   M    M   6        45 330
================================================================================
SM 1096  682       860   0  3.26     8.0 214.9          M      151
================================================================================
AV 40.6 25.3                               8.0 FASTST   M    M   6    MAX(MPH)
                                MISC ---->  # 38 260               # 46  270
================================================================================

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Happens every time Anthony, happens every time.

I don't mind adjustments as long as they are accurate. I'm not so sure if the airport only received 1.7" all day on Sunday though. The 3.8" didn't seem too high to me at all as I thought it was actually on point. But ok, whatever. Somebody sitting at a desk with a suit and tie just stole 2.3" from our city. Now, we won't make the top 10 list for December. :(

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I don't mind adjustments as long as they are accurate. I'm not so sure if the airport only received 1.7" all day on Sunday though. The 3.8" didn't seem too high to me at all as I thought it was actually on point. But ok, whatever. Somebody sitting at a desk with a suit and tie just stole 2.3" from our city. Now, we won't make the top 10 list for December. :(

Actually, it's believable to me. I received a similarly shockingly-low amount from the all-day Sunday snow.

Inudaw would be the one to ask about this though.

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:-p. I was a bit surprised at the 6.6" measurement myself.

Tops I had only 5" Total after the snow we had most of the day. I thought maybe there was compaction and why my total was lower than that of the airports. A bit surprised at the down turn of the total.

4.3" might be a little lower... and could see arguments either way regarding the total of 6.6" verses 4.3"

Personally I only saw 6.5" in the small drifts in the side yard near the ditch toward the road. Lowest points were 2 inches and the highest snow was near my back deck .. of near 8"..

Not gawking at the 4.3". Nothing compared to the inconsistencies last year.

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