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Richmond Metro/ Hampton roads obs/disco winter thread


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Of course we do...but our job in this phase is to be probabilistic not deterministic...I.e. what's most likely to occur. Personally, even going through only to sat morning, I think the NAM and SREF is slowly starting to steer us to some middle ground between the more amplified EC and the far-less-so GFS..shifting the jet max a bit west of the GFS depiction and digging the upper trough just a bit more. Time will tell about the occurrence and timing of phasing...but that's a good sign right there. Track is going to be something that gets refined as we get closer. I think we'll likely see some mix issues out your way Saturday that go away with time late....again though, plenty of time to fix timing and refine. My hope is that our overrunning doesn't short circuit us again as it did to some extent last January. Plenty to consider and look for...and we'll have time to get to all of it. Take a deep breath folks....still quite a few runs to get through here!

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** We're in JI's big lull ** Just enough time to watch Christmas Vacation and be back for the 0z NAM.

:lmao:

I can't imagine Jim Duncan telling Gene Cox, "well yeah the European Model is calling for 18 inches in Richmond on Christmas. Then Gene tells his little joke...."you mean Fifi?" Again, we're so lucky to have you guys here. So, how much for Fluvanna? :whistle:

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Define "big"? I think it will be more than 1-3"...

6"+

Too many model differences to be excited and recalling the fiasco of last weekend.....you have to go with the trend and that is surpressed sheared out/weaker systems....OTS.

No way RIC gets the amount of snow per recent EURO. Climo doesn't support it and we've only had one storm over the last 113 years delivering over 12" at RIC during the month of December.

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<br />6"+<br /><br />Too many model differences to be excited and recalling the fiasco of last weekend.....you have to go with the trend and that is surpressed sheared out/weaker systems....OTS. <br /><br />No way RIC gets the amount of snow per recent EURO. Climo doesn't support it and we've only had one storm over the last 113 years delivering over 12" at RIC during the month of December.<br />

I don't disagree with that. But, by the same token, I think McGuirk's 1-3" is too low.

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Too early to jump ship but all the 0z guidance shifted in favor of OTS.

NOT true at all.

GFS took MAJOR steps toward the Euro and looks much better than it did previously (despite the fact that it gives us no precip).

GGEM sends the low off the coast but has nice features and bombs it out.

UKMET is crap.

Euro hasn't come in yet.

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NOT true at all.

GFS took MAJOR steps toward the Euro and looks much better than it did previously (despite the fact that it gives us no precip).

GGEM sends the low off the coast but has nice features and bombs it out.

UKMET is crap.

Euro hasn't come in yet.

IIRC, the ECMWF was the first to pick up the OTS last weekend, no? If it continues creaming RIC tonight, then maybe I'll start getting excited, Jake. :snowman:

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NOT true at all.

GFS took MAJOR steps toward the Euro and looks much better than it did previously (despite the fact that it gives us no precip).

GGEM sends the low off the coast but has nice features and bombs it out.

UKMET is crap.

Euro hasn't come in yet.

GFS took steps toward 12z Euro yes, but still equals OTS

GGEM OTS and east of 12z run

UKmet OTS and east of 12z run

0z Euro??? not in yet

I know it doesnt mean anything this far out, but taken literally the models are all OTS but the Euro currently. Hoping its just a blip and shifts back tomorrow.

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Euro is coming in. Tombo is updating in the NYC thread.

Euro stands firm. Wow I was honestly not expecting that. So now it Euro bomb east coast HECS verse nothing from the other models. Hopefully the GFS trends continue and the other models shifting east were just blips. :snowman:

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