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Richmond Metro/ Hampton roads obs/disco winter thread

Midlo Snow Maker

By Midlo Snow Maker,
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Patreeot

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So, almost everyone in that thread went into this winter expecting a warm, snowless winter. Ji even canceled winter in April, and again every month since October.

Yet, all they do is b**ch and moan about a "waste" of cold or a "waste" of QPF. There are way too many way too attached to whether it snows outside their front door or not.

I'd like to see them spend a winter in south-central VA.

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golia1w

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This winter has actually been decent. We've not gotten a blockbuster event, but it's actually felt like winter and we have had decent snowfall.

Last winter was great. It was the 4 before that which blew serious chunks.

I think RIC airport stands at 10" for the season so far. Does anyone know what it was last year at this time?

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Patreeot

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This winter has actually been decent. We've not gotten a blockbuster event, but it's actually felt like winter and we have had decent snowfall.

Last winter was great. It was the 4 before that which blew serious chunks.

Yes, most of us have gotten more snow than them so far. I actually meant for the past several winters minus last year.

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Kevin Druff

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I venture over to OT on occasion and I ran the blog and website for Jim Webb in 2006. Few things stun me. However, I must say, that people on this board are engaging in such childish topics as "if you could make one poster disappear from the board forever who would it be, and why?"

Really? Are you fing KIDDING ME? Have I been transported back to middle school?

I know OT is typically considered a moderator-free zone, but surely this board should draw a line of civility somewhere.

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Patreeot

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Yeah, east of town has done better this year; the opposite of last year. I have recorded 9" IMBY after last Friday's little surprise.

South of town has also fared better this year. I'm up at 15.1" so far compared to about 11" at this time last year. Places down by Petersburg and south made out decently in December.

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Patreeot

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I venture over to OT on occasion and I ran the blog and website for Jim Webb in 2006. Few things stun me. However, I must say, that people on this board are engaging in such childish topics as "if you could make one poster disappear from the board forever who would it be, and why?"

Really? Are you fing KIDDING ME? Have I been transported back to middle school?

I know OT is typically considered a moderator-free zone, but surely this board should draw a line of civility somewhere.

Didn't they already succeed in that?

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RIC Airport

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Here's hoping for a carbon copy of February 1979 or March 1960.

Which month would you prefer?

Richmond Byrd Int'l Airport, VA
Daily Data Listing
Feb 1, 1979 - Feb 28, 1979

Date          MaxT  MinT  Pcpn  Snow  Snwg
02/01/1979      40    25  0.00   0.0     T
02/02/1979      43    18  0.00   0.0     0
02/03/1979      34    19  0.01   0.2     0
02/04/1979      53    27  0.00   0.0     0
02/05/1979      36    22  0.00   0.0     0
02/06/1979      31    13     T     T     0
02/07/1979      28    23  0.67   6.4     5
02/08/1979      44    10  0.00   0.0     5
02/09/1979      29     8  0.08   1.6     3
02/10/1979      32    -8  0.00   0.0     4
02/11/1979      23    -1     T     T     4
02/12/1979      36    16  0.01   0.4     4
02/13/1979      27     8     T     T     4
02/14/1979      28     7     T     T     4
02/15/1979      35    25     T   0.0     4
02/16/1979      36    19  0.00   0.0     3
02/17/1979      21     8  0.00   0.0     3
02/18/1979      14     6  0.36   7.2     3
02/19/1979      40    10  0.25   3.7    14
02/20/1979      44     3  0.00   0.0    13
02/21/1979      50    27  0.10   0.0     8
02/22/1979      56    37  0.00   0.0     3
02/23/1979      48    35  0.48   0.0     T
02/24/1979      43    38  2.64   0.0     0
02/25/1979      44    39  1.36   0.0     0
02/26/1979      44    37  0.01   0.0     0
02/27/1979      53    30  0.00   0.0     0
02/28/1979      59    28  0.00   0.0     0


Richmond Byrd Int'l Airport, VA
Daily Data Listing
Mar 1, 1960 - Mar 31, 1960

Date          MaxT  MinT  Pcpn  Snow  Snwg
03/01/1960      39    23  0.00   0.0     0
03/02/1960      32    20  0.19   3.3     0
03/03/1960      29    24  0.88   5.5     8
03/04/1960      32    21  0.00   0.0     7
03/05/1960      31    14  0.00   0.0     6
03/06/1960      34    15  0.00   0.0     5
03/07/1960      31    12  0.01   0.2     4
03/08/1960      32    15  0.00   0.0     4
03/09/1960      28    16  0.33   5.4     4
03/10/1960      33    18  0.06   0.6     8
03/11/1960      33    15  0.00   0.0     6
03/12/1960      36    19  0.00   0.0     4
03/13/1960      37    15  0.00   0.0     4
03/14/1960      42    11  0.00   0.0     3
03/15/1960      42    25  0.00   0.0     3
03/16/1960      37    26  1.01   4.7     1
03/17/1960      47    34  0.04   0.0     3
03/18/1960      48    34  0.01   0.0     T
03/19/1960      51    32     T   0.0     0
03/20/1960      49    30  0.05     T     0
03/21/1960      44    29  0.00   0.0     T
03/22/1960      52    31  0.00   0.0     0
03/23/1960      47    23  0.00   0.0     0
03/24/1960      59    33  0.00   0.0     0
03/25/1960      41    26  0.00   0.0     0
03/26/1960      54    28  0.03     T     0
03/27/1960      70    27  0.00   0.0     0
03/28/1960      82    39  0.00   0.0     0
03/29/1960      82    42  0.14   0.0     0
03/30/1960      69    62  0.54   0.0     0
03/31/1960      69    52     T   0.0     0

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RIC Airport

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Feb 1979, please!

I'm sure most people would agree with that. For me, both would be equally satisfying. :D

February 1979 ranks as the 2nd coldest February on record with an average monthly temperature of 28.6°F. It's also the 3rd snowiest February with 19.5". There are a couple things that makes this month so unique for central VA. For one, Richmond Airport recorded 17 consecutive days with a daily snow depth of 1 inch or greater. This is just two days shy of the record 19 days set in 1948. Looking at the above data, you can see that a solid 4 inch snowcover persisted much of the month before peaking at 14" on the 19th. Richmond also record two consecutive days with a low temperature below 0°F. The -8°F reading on the 10th is the 3rd coldest temperature since observations for record began in 1897. We also had a pretty big snowstorm (PD I) with 10.9" officially 18-19th. With that, the official temperature at Richmond ranged from 9°F to 10°F from 1pm to 7pm during the height of the event on the 18th. This is the coldest snowstorm I can find for Richmond. These conditions are what make February 1979 such a great month!

March 1960 is the coldest and snowiest March on record for Richmond. The average monthly temperature finished at 35.9°F and there were 19.7" of snowfall recorded. The month started off with a major snowstorm March 2-3 followed by really cold temperatures. Despite the high sun angle, snow remained on the ground for 15 consecutive days. There were a couple decent snowstorms every few days helping to retain the snowcover. March 1960 did featured the coldest March temperature of 11°F, but the record was broken in March 2009.

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Inudaw

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Well.. I'll just say this. Euro's threat is still over 156 hours away. And no other model has it in that time frame. Either there will be alot of catching up to do by the other models... or the Euro's 1.. 2 punch will likely be the first or the second. But I like the Euro's out put in terms of eye candy...

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Well.. I'll just say this. Euro's threat is still over 156 hours away. And no other model has it in that time frame. Either there will be alot of catching up to do by the other models... or the Euro's 1.. 2 punch will likely be the first or the second. But I like the Euro's out put in terms of eye candy...

What exactly does the 12z Euro show for next weekend?

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Inudaw

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West of 95... is probably mostly snow event.. with some ice in the middle.. :P East of I-95 is a clear SNOW to ICE back to snow event on the Euro.

But only the Euro has it at hour 156. Other guidance keying on the earlier threat at around 120-132 hours.

EDIT.

Its a 1 .. 2 punch for some.

At around 108-120 some light precip makes it up into Southern Va. 850's would suggest snow would be the form of precip.

By 144.. a low pressure is formed in the extreme northern gulf...which then shoots straight up the east coast.. about 50 to 100 miles off Virginia by 156.. or so ;x.. then due north from there. The track is nearly perfect for an all snow event for Richmond. But 850's squeak above 0 for the Richmond area. (barely)

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Well.. I'll just say this. Euro's threat is still over 156 hours away. And no other model has it in that time frame. Either there will be alot of catching up to do by the other models... or the Euro's 1.. 2 punch will likely be the first or the second. But I like the Euro's out put in terms of eye candy...

HPC basically throwing out the 12Z Euro OP.

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MidlothianWX

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West of 95... is probably mostly snow event.. with some ice in the middle.. :P East of I-95 is a clear SNOW to ICE back to snow event on the Euro.

But only the Euro has it at hour 156. Other guidance keying on the earlier threat at around 120-132 hours.

EDIT.

Its a 1 .. 2 punch for some.

At around 108-120 some light precip makes it up into Southern Va. 850's would suggest snow would be the form of precip.

By 144.. a low pressure is formed in the extreme northern gulf...which then shoots straight up the east coast.. about 50 to 100 miles off Virginia by 156.. or so ;x.. then due north from there. The track is nearly perfect for an all snow event for Richmond. But 850's squeak above 0 for the Richmond area. (barely)

Precip numbers?

How does the Euro depiction compare to the event shown on the GFS?

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Inudaw

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Precip numbers?

How does the Euro depiction compare to the event shown on the GFS?

I don't have precip amounts.

The GFS has the low form on the arctic boundary like the Euro does in its first punch. Just a bit further north than the Euro.

Euro just leaves more energy int he base of the trough out west... which what eventually forms the secondary low later on. It's all suspect considering the euro's weakness of holding energy to long in the south west portion of the United States. BUT it does not mean it's wrong.. just have to question whether or not you think that's what it is doing. 12z ensembles will be nice to check the 12z operational Euro. 0z Ensembles were not as amplified as the 0z operational Euro.

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I don't have precip amounts.

The GFS has the low form on the arctic boundary like the Euro does in its first punch. Just a bit further north than the Euro.

Euro just leaves more energy int he base of the trough out west... which what eventually forms the secondary low later on. It's all suspect considering the euro's weakness of holding energy to long in the south west portion of the United States. BUT it does not mean it's wrong.. just have to question whether or not you think that's what it is doing. 12z ensembles will be nice to check the 12z operational Euro. 0z Ensembles were not as amplified as the 0z operational Euro.

Wasn't the Euro the first to jump on the December 26th threat? Then the other models jumped on, only to lose the threat. Then the Euro was the first to jump back on and was kinda right. There were the same concerns regarding the SW bias, but in the end it was right. Correct me if I'm wrong.

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Wasn't the Euro the first to jump on the December 26th threat? Then the other models jumped on, only to lose the threat. Then the Euro was the first to jump back on and was kinda right. There were the same concerns regarding the SW bias, but in the end it was right. Correct me if I'm wrong.

The only model to lose the threat was the Euro, and then all the solutions began to trend less and less once the Euro got back on.

What's the chance of a nasty commute on Tuesday morning? The NAM and GFS are so different, I really have no idea which is better.

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