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We had modest LES bands in and out all night. 0.6 of an inch dusting. So that didn't allow it to get below 10F. I drove down to Kingston this morning and noticed the trees covered in hoar frost in places where it must have got quite low.

Old news, but my final here was 8.7". Another moderate sized event here, however they add up and 37" for the season so can't say it has been snowless. And yes the Berkshires got crushed... Savoy at 41" seems to be the jackpot. As Andy noted in the other thread, the NWS ALB is heading to that area tomorrow to confirm for a possible 24 hour record.

Closing in on 7 inches here....long duration of mainly light snow (occasionally moderate) has added up to a respectable number. Steady snow moved back in here lately ...maybe southwest rotating around the low circulation. So another ENY scraper and NE bomb....

IMO this is another one heading for the snow bulls eye of the Hudson Valley and Catskills. I think when all is said and done LI has P-type issues. Maybe NYC stays all snow....

Still snowing good here now...echoes coming nw out of CT. Much slower start up here, but definitely over 4 inches now. I'll go measure soon. 19F.

3" here now ..still snowing here ...some moderate bursts. I was down as far as POU today and they had 4" when I left at 2:30 PM. I thought the most impressive snow was around northern Dutchess and southern Columbia around 4:30 PM. They probably got a good 6" total.... Also they still had a good amount of the old Noreaster snow left...can't be sure but maybe 4, 5, 6 inches survived the torch.

That was a fun storm. I got 46 inches total here. 19" in event #1 and 27" in event #2. But ALB got like a foot in event #1 and 98% rain in event #2.

That's cool... I like to take the Taconic up from NYC sometimes and yeah you lose all the traffic after like route 55 in Dutchess County. I like to stop at the Martindale Chief Diner where route 23 crosses in Columbia County. I guess you get off at route 82 (near that Taghkanic Diner). Sometimes I get off there and take 82 into 23 over the RVW Bridge and then 23 to 32 north and up over the Helderbergs Hill Towns to home.

Dunno, but POU climo records are kept by the NWS in Albany. Maybe on their website someplace: http://www.erh.noaa.gov/aly/ But generally they give the snowfall for a winter season as in 2009-10, 2010-2011. I'm sure you could access monthly climo records somewhere and compile a calendar year total. Caveat to that: I believe the actual airport in POU got a lot less in that February storm...... Crazy storm where northern/central Dutchess had mostly rain and southernmost Dutchess mostly snow

My family came out of Brooklyn and Queens and the diaspora began in about the 1940's. Now I have only a few cousins left Downstate. Some came Upstate such as my father and grandparents about 60 years ago. Others scattered all over. When people moved Upstate such as POU or Kingston in the 1950's they essentially became Upstaters because nobody would consider commuting back to the city. Now you have people commuting 75 + miles and tons of weekend home owners that are only part time Upstaters.

I have to go into the city on average a couple days a month. If I am really busy I will take a motel such as in Ardsley or like Bellerose, Queens and do a two day stint. I need to get documents for my research business at the courts etc. down there and some can only be obtained terrestrially. Also I occasionally have to testify in Surrogate's Court in one of the boroughs. I can't imagine how anyone could deal with that traffic and pace of life as a regular commuter. I am adept at it .....know the city very well all over, but a couple days is all I could take. LOL I can't tell you how happy I am when I leave it in the rear view mirror and keep driving further and further north.

Orange County is really a NYC bedroom area now I guess...though the west end you still see farms etc... Traditionally POU was about the demarcation point between ALB and NYC in terms of media, services etc. and most of Ulster and northern Dutchess got their tv out of Albany. Most of us had never seen a NYC station. POU got both.... Now at some point Nielsen designated the DMA's (designated market areas) and included all of Ulster and Dutchess in NYC Metro. Slowly they just kept shoving it down our throats and putting us in the NYC zone. They dropped the ALB tv stations in much of Ulster and Dutchess. A couple years ago the city run PBS station (13) forced the long time Albany station (17) out of the two counties where they had 50 years of contributors etc. Very few people use antennas so that was basically it. Saugerties and a few towns at the north end of the counties have an exemption to get ALB nets on their cable systems also. This extends beyond TV to every kind of service, etc....they always direct you to call south now to a Westchester or NYC #... even if you are in Saugerties (40 miles from ALB) and 105 miles from NYC. So it goes.... but anyway I live up here now.

Yeah though it isn't as hopeless in Wappingers as it is around Kingston to Saugerties. They lie just east of the 3000 Ft plus escarpment and once the wind goes nnw or nw like on the backside of a Noreaster...it shuts right off. Now on the other hand my Dad worked at IBM POU and used to compare the WX.....and that extra 35+ miles inland often helped a lot with changeover situations so it isn't all bad there.

You get downsloped to hell on any west or northwest winds there. I know having lived in Saugerties for over 30 years. But this is mainly an easterly component so shouldn't be a problem from the Hudson Valley west.

Happy New to all of you also. It hit 42 here today with mostly cloudy skies. 38 now. About 4 to 5 inches of wet snow left in the undisturbed woods. In the open areas plenty of areas with nothing and then the drifts.....biggest about 30 inches. That's where all the snow on my back lawn went.

I see what you mean. Course I was only talking about for the absolute emergencies like the pregnant woman that waited 8 hours in labor, etc. IE where people are dying because nobody can get there. Is

You know the block really never leaves completely up near Greenland. Unfortunately it still allows a cutter on Saturday, but this isn't going to allow the kind of extreme torch that might otherwise have occurred. Also the deep snow pack means it can really decouple at night ..big time inversion. I suspect quite a bit of snow pack survives this mini-torch.

Sure...I recall numerous snowfalls where people have been stranded on roads such as the Thruway Upstate where they use snowmobiles...often volunteers. This takes me way back to 1978 when my Dad was stuck between POU and Kingston in that blizzard and they received emergency assistance on the Thruway from snowmobilers. Ultimately they freed him up and he had to spend the night on the floor of one of his fellow car poolers house in Kingston. LOL. This was the old energy crisis days and they had a five guy carpool thing going to get down to work at IBM POU.

There is one simple cheap thing they could do to get paramedics through at least in an absolute emergency situation like we had during the blizzard.. Snowmobiles. Why doesn't city spend a little money and buy a fleet of maybe 50 snowmobiles.... They could get through any of the snow and at least get emergency responders to sick people, pregnant women, etc.

Bottom line is ...Governor Rendell was right about the whimpification of America. LOL You live in a Northeast city ... guess what...it snows and you deal with it. You have to expect to be inconvenienced after a 20"+ Blizzard! You cannot expect NYC to have the resources to make life normal within 24 hours after such a storm. And it simply wouldn't be cost effective for NYC to even attempt to be prepared to make things normal so fast after such a blizzard. Its not worth it when you only get a few storms like that per decade. (yes two this year, but that was a freak thing) There would be no point in developing that level of "snow fighting" infrastructure for infrequent events like this. You gotta look at the cost/benefit analysis.

I guess people can't grasp the concept that their lives may be disrupted for a few days following the 5th or 6th greatest snowstorm in NYC history. It was on a par with the Blizzard of 1888 in snowfall with 20" in CP, 24" in Brooklyn and 29" in Staten Island. But this fell in about 20 hours whereas that storm was over a a few days. You can't fault the people with airline tickets because they had pre-booked and were stuck, but otherwise people were warned simply to stay home during this snowstorm so it is their own fault if they got stranded somewhere.

Posthumous report ..so to speak.... I measured 10 inches yesterday in Saugerties at our cottage there. The open areas were very blown off, but back in the woods I found an undisturbed spot. Then I shoveled out what the plow guy didn't get to... It was 22 there at 4 PM. Despite 7 new inches, my lawn here in Knox is largely devoid of snow now....kinda sad, but I knew this open ridge would be windy. Most was transported 500+ feet to the hedgerows. We have been getting nuisance lake stuff filling the air with flakes all day...just fresh dustings. 25F outside.

I was a bit far northwest for the best band but I came in with about 7 to 8 inches so not bad for a fringe event. It's blown to bits now, but I went down into the woods to measure ..about 10" on the ground there, but some is old snow. Extreme wind chill now with the blowing and drifting - actual temperature of 9F. ALB area itself around 10" give or take....... Yes here is the jackpot zone for the mid/upper HV and adjacent NE. .....which began about 25-30 miles to my east/southeast: Connecticut Litchfield County -- Precipitation Reports Canaan 14.00" Massachusetts Berkshire County -- Precipitation Reports Alford, MA 20.00" Pittsfield 16.00" Lanesborough 15.00" Clarksburg 15.00" Pittsfield 14.00" New York Columbia County -- Precipitation Reports Kinderhook 17.50" Ghent 20.00" North Chatham 20.25" Taghkanic 19.00" Livingston 16.50" Ancramdale 14.50" Copake 14.00" Chatham Center 16.00" Dutchess County -- Precipitation Reports Pine Plains 25.00" Hopewell Junction 24.00" Greene County -- Precipitation Reports Maplecrest 17.00" Greenville 11.00" Ashland 11.00" Prattsville 11.00" Rensselaer County -- Precipitation Reports Hoosick Falls 16.00" Brunswick 11.00" Vermont Bennington County -- Precipitation Reports Landgrove 18.00" Woodford 20.00" Rutland County -- Precipitation Reports Danby 13.25"

Moderate snow + and 14F here. Finally looks like a snowstorm here. Albany (east side) is getting into the heavy snow band it seems as it pivots west.

At long last moderate snow backing in here from the east. The northwest fringe is continually getting eroded away, but it muscles its way west in fits and stops... I doubt it ever gets west of the central Mohawk Valley. If there is anyone around Saugerties/Catskill let me know whats up. I think I will be heading down in the AM to help clear out our cottage down there.