TugHillMatt

Great point. Lowville does have medical facilities. One can always live closer to Rome or Watertown as well, but live far enough out to get plenty of snow. My wife hated living in the Tug region because of how long it took to get anywhere.

Exactly. Too cold and dry. Temps in the 20s with more moisture, please.

The economy in the Tug region is rough. Just a heads up. I lived there for a year and lost my job because profit was too low. Also, Lowville itself gets the shaft quite often. Elevation is key.

Man, what a yawn fest on the 0Z runs through mid February.

Sure! Unfortunately, there are none that I think are very good. None of them do a very good job at depicting all the lake effect snow and elevation microclimates. Buffalo NWS just recently posted this snowfall map for Western NY. It's the closest in showing my area's average of 130 inches. You can see the fantastic amounts that the Tug gets as well!

I think this map shows a great depiction of what winters are like in PA and where the heaviest snowfall is. I don't really like that the numbers on the legend/scale are so hard to read. But, the map really highlights the microclimates due to elevation and marine influences.

What happened to Clippers that used to move through the Midwest? Not ones that just continue to clip Canada...

Ok. Well we might be on here chatting at 7 pm. You will be missed.

Apparently you have your online book of shadows where you paste these little maps of poison for trolling purposes.

After trying not to vomit for a moment...I remembered that this week's event also looked like a hot pile of garbage, and look where it ended up.

Feel better? Well, the LSV basically IS like that. lol... I HATE the climate of that area...hence one of the reasons I moved.

Hoping for a Clipper pattern and/or east coast storm pattern that is better than the suckage we've had so far this winter. It's been SWFEs and.... that's it.

Yeah, that is definitely looking like a week with some opportunity as indices/parts shift.

Bloody @wolfie09... He's ALWAYS one step ahead!

Agreed. Euro then follows that up with a Valentine's Day snowstorm that would be the most widespread snowstorm of the season for several subforums. If only:

It would draw too much attention from the "Powers that Be." Then you'd have trixie moderating your roastfest. Would we want that?

I vote we start a new thread where Syrmax and tim just roast one another. Such random little insults.

? So the 13:1 ratios you are claiming ARE verification that the Kuchera maps were wrong, as Rochester didn't get the 15 to 20 inches they were showing. You're arguing yourself into a hole.

Thanks. That's a nice area! It tends to be the last area to get the consistent lake effect snow showers before the elevation dropoff of the Nittany Valley. Then those ridges to the SE tend to squeeze out what little is left. As you know, State College can occasionally get them...but I remember many times in State College being excited as a band was moving in, only to watch it fall apart on radar once past Port Matilda and Milesburg.

Nice! I am quite familiar with Brockway. Went to their awesome Fourth of July celebration several summers. Bro in law's family lives there. That moisture from the lakes gets squeezed out by orographic lift on those ridges. It usually amounts to only an inch or so that can melt quickly if the sun comes back out. Growing up in SE PA, I wasn't accustomed to black ice during the day time when the sun was shining. Different story up there on the Plateau...

There's even a stark difference between State College and Philipsburg. I graduated (and lived) from Penn State, and often made the trip on 322 back from State College to DuBois. It was always a journey of several microclimates. When you travel from Hershey up to the Allegheny Plateau via 322, it gets increasingly more wintry over each successive mountain ridge. 1st Change: Slight change as you work your way up the hills from Harrisburg to Lewistown. 2nd Change: Seven Mountains (Ridge past Milroy) 3rd Change: The ridges around Tussey and between Centre Hall and Pleasant Gap 4th Change: The ridge that runs between State College and Port Matilda 5th Change: The ridge between Port Matilda and Philipsburg - runs to the NE to the Snowshoe area on 80. 6th Change: The Woodland area before Clearfield - always snowier 7th and BIGGEST change: Clearfield Mountain between Clearfield and DuBois. (The Rockton area.) Over 2,000 feet in elevation - HUGE microclimate (in all times of the year) that I spent years driving through. Lots of ice storms and heavier snow there - Thunderstorms were always way worse as well (hail storms common). I actually worked on top of that mountain and it snowed an inch in the 3rd week of JUNE.

You have to know the appropriate setting for sharing them. Kuchera can easily verify with Lake effect opportunities. It's not wise to use them for synoptic events, unless we are talking Alberta Clippers in a cold, clipper pattern.

Gives a little bit of interest in what appears to be quite a boring weather week. GFS advertising a nice, extended period of lake effect for the belts...especially those of us near Lake Ontario, starting over the weekend into next week.

Correction: You both do. lol

Lol. Yes, Syrmax does have some trolling tendencies.