TugHillMatt

Yeah, a good chunk of Upstate doesn't got much at all with these SW winds. What you described is more typical of a Great Lakes Winter...well, at least it used to be. Hopefully this awful stretch we've been in is temporary and we can get a good row of winters again...but there are some scientific things going on that make me wonder if we will actually go back to what it used to be like...or close to it. You guys can do great on Lake Enhanced events. As I've said before, I LOVE lake enhanced events. Reason being...is that snowfall is usually continuous and steady. You've got that synoptic and lake moisture just working together. It's also more enjoyable to me because it's not the showery lake effect snow that goes off and on and moves back and forth.

What's @rochesterdave complaining about? The suburbs of Rochester got more than you did...........

After living in Lake effect zones for over a decade, I have come to realize that LES is over-rated. Much of the time, it's piddly little pennies (not nickel and dimes). HOWEVER, when you can get a COLD winter, LES rocks. Clipper patterns with cold are what make LES amazing. BUT, cold air has been severely lacking...so unless you live at a higher elevation, LES is almost more frustrating than enjoyable. Several consecutive years of this now. I forget where you moved from?

No thanks. I wouldn't want to see her daily posting pictures of feet of snow while I post a picture of my car with a dusting.

..and the band is moving out and back north. I don't think a lake effect band can last longer than an hour here. Oh well...on to the next!

And obviously wind direction...SW winds have ruled off of Lake Ontario lately. The only area that benefits from that is Northern Tug and Watertown.

With our average temps of the month being around 40 for highs and the low barely reaching down to freezing, I think we are on course for way above average temp January. Several days this upcoming week we are still going to be in the mid 30s. I fear we heading into this as normal for winters from now on.

Eh, I don't know. It looks like it's going to move out as fast as it came. Lol. Bville is just in a crap location. Too far west.

I am just on the edge of the light greens NE of Baldwinsville. Would love it to settle just a little bit southwest more. Looks like Syrmax is getting hit nicely.

Just shared...it reformed over us, so it's snowing pretty good.

When I lived in S. Redfield, I remember many times going into Pulaski and there was no snow because the winds jumped the band over the town, or the lake made it milder and it rained. I lived very close to Lake Michigan and it had the same effect. I wonder where the official measurements are taken. There is probably a big difference between downtown and the east side towards Altmar and Orwell.

Snowing pretty good here as the band has reformed over Northern Onondaga. 12Z runs have us under the band and getting a few inches. Hope it works out!

Precip looks to be pushing south over Lake Ontario. Let's see how far it can make it.

Looks like you guys are going to get some good stuff the next couple days? Systems south and east...this one is north and east (looks to be working down towards you guys?)...then the next shortwave looks to go south and west and ride the southern tier. I'm so confused by what's going on this winter.

Draw a sideways diamond from Rochester to Syracuse to Geneva to Batavia and back to Rochester. The black hole of wintry weather this year.

Graupel has been VERY common in Upstate NY this winter. No deep cold around. Hopefully that changes this upcoming week. What's the snow depth up there?

Beautiful shot!

Summing up the Forecast for the week from BUF in 3 words: Southwest Wind Snows Summary for everybody else in their area in 5 words: Half inch to one inch As far as BGM...somebody forgot to edit their work.... LOL: .SHORT TERM /MONDAY THROUGH TUESDAY NIGHT/... 3 PM Update... Another short wave and surface low pressure move into the upper Great Lakes Monday then move through NY Tuesday. Another round of light snow with this. On Monday a weak warm will be across upstate NY focusing the snow. Monday night a break with snow mostly in Finger Lakes to Oneida County. Tuesday most of the snow will again be in CNY. Drier weather in NEPA despite the cold frontal passage. Front won`t have much moisture or forcing. waits. Cold air slowly moves in Tuesday night.

The 18Z NAM runs look awful. What happened to the wraparound? The Lake Effect? Sigh.

The Mattchera is a great tool...although it has its flaws. It has the tendency to lean towards weenieism.

Divide those numbers by 2, add 5 inches to that number, subtract 10 for bad snow growth, add 15 for fluff factor, subtract 20 for winds blowing it to China, then add 20 using the weenieism method and multiply that with .75 for the realist effect = total snowfall.

Boo. Para GFS lowered snowfall totals for New York.........

I am curious as to what downtown Syracuse has had for the season. They've done even worse during most of these short-lived 32-34 degree snowfalls.

I think most of us at this point will be happy to just get the grass covered! Lol I enjoy events where everyone can get involved. Reallllllly hoping to see what a good Clipper pattern looks like in Upstate New York. It will be my first!

Thanks!!! I experienced the best one yet for that 1 hour a few weeks ago where we got like 4 inches in an hour. Would love to see an event like that soon!