My thing is that people always say, "oh I don't care about pack"....and..."deep cold does nothing for me".....but this is the perfect case where it has, because we had a big storm and are near normal but people still complain, which means everyone is in fact a pack person and an ACATT (in the winter) person, but won't admit it. Honestly if we had some sustained cold with the amount of snow we've had everyone would be happy.