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I was in sixth grade. I don't think I had a full week of school that winter. It was amazing.

True, although 2012-13 sent Kevin and Scott and most of us to the brink before delivering the goods in historic fashion in early Feb.

Right. I'll stand in my driveway with a hair dryer and blast each dendrite before it reaches the ground. Season salvaged.

Will this be enough to cancel winter?

Question: can the term "torch" refer to criteria other than temperature? I'm not sure if I've ever seen it applied to dew point.

Impressive dews at PWATs for the date to be sure, but temperature wise it's not that anomalous. We hit seventy on Christmas day a few years back, and almost 80 in spots in February two years ago. Those were impressive torches.

That was a solid early season thump. Too bad it canceled the rest of winter until March.

When was that first thump last November? Quick 6" dump and epic traffic snarl, as I recall.

The world is also increasingly networked, so our ability to detect and distribute information about such events has proliferated. I'm sure you'd see that if you looked at a few decades of tornado reporting. It's possible a similar pattern emerges with other phenomena, even outside weather. News stories that would never escape the local newspaper can become national or international in nature in minutes with social networks.

Smashed the "like" button. Bring it.

I believe "cats and dogs" is the mot juste for this rain. Pouring.

Lol for a second I thought you were calling for a repeat of '11-'12 and nearly had a heart attack.

It really does interfere with my enjoyment of the event. Just knowing that it's going to disappear in a couple days sucks.

The melting factor is a great point. Sun angle is a killer later in the season. Reminds me of that March HECS eastern Mass had two years ago where I got royally boned in subsidence. Nothing is more depressing than hearing Ray ecstatically tack on 3"/hr while I watch my 3" run off into the storm drain.

Dunno, but for my hood it's probably zero point zero...or maybe that's 2 deviations lol.

If that HECS comes in October and the rest of winter does bupkis, I disagree haha. Would I trade a guaranteed annual HECS of 24-36" in March to have Stowe-like 4-6" events every week from early December to April? I'd be sorely tempted. I love the tracking and drama of huge storms, but man there is something ineffably wonderful about just piling it on in steady, reassuring doses. Money in the bank. Manna for the soul. But the key word is "guaranteed." Obviously dealing with hypotheticals is far different than real world uncertainty. If you offered me a guaranteed 6" per week or a chance at a 40" blockbuster in March, I'd take the former every time.

Yeah, I mean many of us were chucking '14-'15 into the ratter category on Jan 20, 2015. The season suuucked till then. Now, it's perhaps my rosiest winter memory, along with '96 and Jan '11. A HECS in any season, with the exception of '11-'12, will pull it out of ratter territory, but anything less may not.

Fair question. 4 Seasons can probably give a better measurement for our area, but it was close to average, maybe a few inches shy. Somewhere around 30" at any rate. It was just the way it was delivered that was a good hard kick in the pistachios. Great event in early November, followed by more inches of rain than snow until March. I don't recall 01-02 much: I was 18 then and more focused on bedding girls than snow; think it snowed in early May that year though. '06-'07 definitely sucked. I didn't really start paying attention to seasonal totals until 2008-9. 2011-12 definitely is without a doubt the worst ratter of my life. I was in Boston, so we didn't even get anything from the Octobomb. The March torch was epic at least. 2015-2016 was bad, too, though not as bad as your area relative to climo, but I was still riding such a high from 2015 that nothing could bring me down.

Show me the Kuchie.

I didn't claim there was no data. I merely stated that DT put out a very bullish forecast last year and crashed and burned hard. I deemed last year a ratter mainly because expectations were so elevated going in. I actually had an average season for snowfall, but the way it was distributed at the very beginning and end of the season, with endless rain in between, was excruciating.

DT also called for 200% of normal last winter from the MA up through NE. JB is just JB.

F yes. Felt like three months of rain with a single decent event in March. Made worse by the heightened expectations going into the season and all the Modoki malarky.

Hope not dude. My uncle's mother got it and spent her final years as a vegetable. Not a nice way to go.

Yeah, Fishers (in the background) had to suspend ferry service that day, which is pretty rare for that quiet 3 miles of sheltered sound.