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2 hours ago, wolfie09 said:

It's a warm one today, obviously cooler along the immediate shore line, DPs in the upper 60s making it feel more like the mid 80s..

DP's only in the 50's IMBY still giving us a heat index lower than the air temp, I don't expect that to last much longer though.

1 minute ago, Syrmax said:

Really? So what are the alternatives given what is known using an intelligent application of risk tolerance?  Masks forever? Economies hobbled indefinately with various restrictions? That's what the media and certain other entities are driving us towards.  Pretty much that cure is worse, and certainly more absurd, than the disease, long term.  

Why not just have a reasonable approach to a significant new disease?  You are acting like this is literally nothing and we should all just pretend it doesn't exist.  It's a wildly contagious dangerous virus that will now be here forever without a significant effort to thwart it. Acknowledge that its dangerous instead of blowing it off like its an outright hoax.  I know people who have died that should still be here.  It's the real deal for many of us.      

59 minutes ago, Luke_Mages said:

I dont think any more proof is needed that the vaccine doesnt prevent infection from delta variant. Cant really find info on whether it lessened severity though. Gibraltar was 99% vaccinated and just had to lock down again.

https://www.google.com/search?q=gibraltar+covid+vaccine+rate&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS937US937&sxsrf=ALeKk01BbNB5z1VD23i8TJdfMuoz_0flbg:1628170937228&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi97eKygZryAhX0dc0KHW8bD-MQ_AUoAHoECAcQAg&biw=1421&bih=776&dpr=1

It's widely accepted fact that nearly 95 percent (or even higher) of current hospitalizations are unvaccinated.  I have enough friends working in the hospitals to confirm this first hand with them.  The vaccine absolutely lessens severity to a very significant degree.  How do you even question that at this point? There is a mountain of data to back it up, but I'm going to assume you don't trust the CDC so I'll save my breath.

And to Syrmax, since when did this become completely about deaths.  I have virtually no fear of dying from covid, but I know more than enough long haulers to know that the risk of covid runs much deeper than just dying.  This thing ****s with the heart, nerves, brain, lungs, sense of taste and smell.  It's pretty alarming.  I don't understand people who want to just pretend this isnt a scary new virus.  I fully think it was produced in a lab which makes it even more concerning.  

You guys are being ridiculous.

5 minutes ago, Luke_Mages said:

Yea but if you protect your body with the vaccine then were good right?

 

Yes, in theory.  But if half the pop never gets vaxed and this things smolders for years the variants will certainly beat all the vax's.   You should never vax your way out of a pandemic unless you know that nearly the entire world will be all in and do it very quickly (within months).  If we knew that half the world wouldn't take it we shouldn't have started down this road.  The vax would have worked if we could have applied it consistently and quickly around the globe.  

7 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said:

What ever happened to my body, my choice? They use it for one agenda, but deny it in another. 

Playing devils advocate here, but in this case "your body" can affect my body so it's not quite as simple as the usual my body my choice.  

Just drove up along the parkway but I struck out. Saw some very dramatic clouds and maybe a swirl or start of a funnel but no real spouts. 
 

This was most certainly a waterspout. Ontario is firing up. 
 

2 hours ago, vortmax said:

Exactly. Especially when words like 'unthinkable' are used, lol. Unthinkable is what happens in our beloved apocalypse movies.  

I see your point. I thought people were just posting general climate data about our region.  I didn't realize there was a spin to it.  If there is no spin, I think it should be in here, the other thread is a dumpster fire.  

17 hours ago, Luke_Mages said:

Real estate around here is going to be insane someday once California starts to look like Fury Road and Florida turns into Waterworld.

Just wait until cali gets a 8.5 earthquake. People seem to have forgotten than cali is wildly overdue for an absolutely catastrophic quake. Back in the 80s and 90s I feel like it was all people talked about. Now you never hear a peep. It’s going to be a massive wake up call for some. I predict it; along with major water shortages….will initiate the next major migration out of the state. 

19 minutes ago, vortmax said:

Any chance we can keep the climate change stuff in the other forum? 

Dude it’s the doldrums of summer.  People can post baseball stats in here if they want. I could see if we had a big event going down but it doesn’t get more boring than this. 

What a day to be in Lockport. Hours of backbuilding super intense storms. Gotta be some significant flash floods too. 
 

1 hour ago, BuffaloWeather said:

Despite all the dreary days and rain, temps are pretty close to normal for Buffalo/Watertown, a little below for ROC

BUF: -.3

ROC: -2.1

WAT: -.5

Yup, rainy cloudy patterns tend to keep our overnight minimums much higher so it ends up looking a littler warmer than it was if you only judged it by daily highs. 

8 minutes ago, Syrmax said:

Interesting subject, writ large.  This has been one of the hot button issues in the world of climate study for decades.  Instument and loop calibration programs and frequency thereof, changing environments around sensors, data extrapolation over wide areas etc, are controlled to widely varying standards (to put it charitably) globally.   Without being inside baseball, so to speak, we have no way of knowing what the level of uncertainty is around any particular instrument especially over long periods.  Studies have been done that attempt to address this, and i assume are still being conducted, with satellite data thrown in the mix.  It does give one pause in regards to data quality contentions, at least for those of us that are experienced with such issues in the engineering field.  If we find bias errors in relatively "advanced" countries with some frequency, doesn't really give a warm fuzzy regarding that temp sensor record in Outer Mongolia.

Whats frustrating is that in this day and age, it doesnt get much easier than a basic thermistor.  These things are easy to calibrate and should be incredibly precise and durable.  There is no excuse for bad temperature measurements in 2021, especially with the budget that NOAA has.  

1 minute ago, TugHillMatt said:

Wow, Oneida county is yet again under the gun with some heavy storms leading to Flash Flood Warnings. They have had quite the severe summer!

Looks like some activity forming over the lake and maybe making it down to the Eastern Finger Lakes later?

That fierce storm is forming on some sort of orographic or stationary boundary. Radar estimates are over 6 inches in about 70 minutes!!!

2 hours ago, tim123 said:

Roc is on pace for wettest month ever. Believe we are sitting at number 5 for July at 7.37. 9.7 is record for July and I believe for any month ever.

I’m only two miles west of the airport and am at 8.79 on the month. Looks like I’ll surpass that record.  I think this is the rainiest month in my life here in WNY. 

10 minutes ago, tim123 said:

Yeah its called fudging the numbers for global warming lie.

Imagine still not believing in global warming 

19 minutes ago, wolfie09 said:

Rochester measuring all over again..

Fake sizzle sizzle? Lol

Buffalo is the one that corrupted the record books last July with their bogus values. We only lie about snow! 

3 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said:

Where was this in winter?

We would have found a way to mix the whole time, lol.

4 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said:

I'm going to the Blue Jays game downtown, not playing. 

Oh that makes more sense.   The current radar doesnt really jive with what the models are showing.  The models would have us believe that most of us should be dry through late evening, maybe even midnight while the currently radar looks pretty ominous.  

21 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said:

I guess I can catch up on my netflix. 

Are you actually playing fast pitch baseball or is this a softball league?

5 minutes ago, tim123 said:

Euro showing 2 to 4 inches.

Would love to see that verify but its certainly on the high end.  Some of the high res meso models are pretty damn juicy.  Bring it on!

9 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said:

Not me I would like to have a nice baseball game tonight. A brutal July so far. I don't like staying inside in summer, sunshine and 90 all day please. 

Well once your game is canceled or over, can you jump on board?  haha, we need positive vibes for a record event.  

Who else is pulling for a super soaker event tonight and tomorrow?  We will be smashing monthly rainfall records if this storm verifies!  Lets go big tonight/tomorrow! Hoping for at least 2 inches.

5.13” of rain in the first 13 days of July. That’s kind of blowing my mind right now. We could head in record territory with only a couple more decent events.

16 minutes ago, wolfie09 said:

 

Daaaang. That’s legit