Harry

The 850 0 line does hang around longer and briefly drops south of here during the heaviest stuff. Had been staying north of here. So I figured it's possibly more snowy or sleety vs earlier runs.

The goofy maps I am seeing is assuming it's all snow here nearing 18 inches with a sharp cut off at the county border to the south. Sigh.. I know that's bs. Gonna ask them about some ice maps for this kind of stuff.

00z GFS actually looked more snowy/sleety. Hope someone can confirm this with those ice maps?

I'll take anything at this point..

And like GRR I think those icing maps etc are too low..

They need to. GRR needs to up ice amounts as well around here unfortunately. And remove the mention of rain.

Yep so you can guess where I am. Other then this one ocean effect snowstorm I have never seen such drastic cut offs with ice, snow etc till I moved here. Look at that November Les event. 21 this part of town ( north ) vs a few inches out by/just south of Beckley. Have seen the reverse as well when I first moved here. Crazy stuff.

Funny part is one of the reasons I bought this house was because of all the trees along the edges/fence but yeah I am regretting that now.

The best thing about that winter was that lake length les band that got pulled in our way via that meso low. Ofcourse that ice storm in April a few years back ( 17 or 18? ) sucked as it took out half a tree that crashed through my deck railing and deck out back but thankfully soft landed on the house. Terrible sound when it crash landed and thought it had taken out my bathroom window upstairs which thankfully didn't.

You would have lost it in 97-98 where I was living. I wasn't happy for sure but we had some crazy noreasters that winter that made it somewhat interesting living at the beach.

How I'll be getting to work..

We are screwed.

If the warmer stuff had actually been a little warmer I wouldn't have minded this winter. The endless cloudy, drizzle and low 40s stink. What's keeping my grade up is the White Christmas and 21+ lake effect event in November. 00-01 wasn't too bad back east where I was living for that climo anyways.

Nov and especially December 2000 rocked here. Over 50 inches alone in December which to this day holds the top spot for snowiest month ever. That November had held the top spot for snowiest November till this past November. Rest of the winter did kinda suck though. Thankfully I was living in the DC area in 82-83 which got slammed by what was referred to as the megalopolis blizzard in Feb with 18+.

Tried telling people this yesterday. Been that way for years. I doubt the trends are done as well. Hoping for a miracle here. Not sure I'll get it.

The one constant lives on. Figured the short range stuff would do this.. Better get some extra logs for the fireplace..

Any little tick north helps here. Just not enough yet but getting close. Ofcourse I don't follow this model as often so not sure how reliable it is in these situations?

Really has been a few crappy years huh? Ofcourse I didn't notice as I used to as I have been too busy doing other stuff. Ofcourse the mid/late 2000s and 2010s kinda spoiled us with them 80, 90, 100+ winters here. This area went 15 or so years without a winter below 60 inches. Fyi. Back in the 1930-60 period the normal here was around 40 with only two going above the 60 mark and a slew of 18-30. For the time being it's now closer to 70 thanks to the 2000s and 2010s. 97-98 was the last time this area failed to make 40 or even 30..

For around here it's night and day between the short range vs the others. Bad ice storm vs plain rain. I am hoping for the rain but I know better then to trust those models showing the rain. Alot of tall trees and power lines behind my house so yeah I'll pass on the ice. Ofcourse ma nature is gonna what it likes. Ofcourse I have more personal reason for not wanting the ice either which has to do with Thursday night plans.

I remember 97-98 being the only winter I didn't see a flake of snow. Ofcourse part I spent in VA beach and the other in Delaware at the coast..

Since when did this board start bowing down to the short range models beyond 36 hours?

Usually does till it gets inside of 36 hrs.

Same. Need to get a south trend going tonight. Gonna pull out the ole magnet..

Yeah I don't get these offices that do that? Ofcourse both offices are notorious for following whatever model has the warmest outcome. But yeah GRR has rain or freezing rain for here. Yes I would gladly take rain over freezing rain. Time to cross fingers for a better outcome with the 00z models be it colder or warmer.

Rain? Where are you at now? Anywhere along/north of i94 is gonna be some form of wintry precip. Unless you are following the short range models that mostly rain ship I think has sailed off. Jmho